18 Jul 2024, 17:07#4
Ok yes he is a solid unit that plays very well for Bath….man there is so many Quality players from SA it’s difficult to keep up.
18 Jul 2024, 19:13#8
" Luke became a Springbok in controversial fashion in 2007 when then coach Jake White was forced to include him in the team after pressure from the sports ministry.
White did not want Luke in his Springbok team but was eventually forced to include him.
Luke’s dad, Cheeky, was held in high esteem in political circles for being an anti-apartheid activist.
Watson at the time said he felt unwelcome in the Bok camp and made the infamous remark that he wanted to puke on his Springbok jersey. "
This is the reason why he is a disgrace!! That being said, Puke Watson was a bog ordinary player, not good enough to make Bok ranks : )
SASaffolk
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18 Jul 2024, 19:58#9
Moz that list is longer than any list of SA players you actually like
Why you support SA rugby is beyond me - it must be bloody painful disliking so many players and hating the coach
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18 Jul 2024, 23:03#10
Well for starters I don’t rate anybody on that list. Why you thought all those players are world beaters is beyond me, but you couldn’t be persuaded.
As for Eluckmiss, he lost me when he abandoned the Boks in 2007 to take up the job in CT. An act of total selfishness, which characterizes everything about the man.
SASaffolk
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18 Jul 2024, 23:38#11
Moz that’s my point you rate very few SA players
Chiliboy? You have me confused with someone else
I tell you who was damn good on that list and that was Wynand Olivier - he was a quality 12 who had no chance as a Bok given Jean was ahead of him
I just chuckle when you come up with a list like this - I’ll just throw in a name for you - Adi revolving door Jacobs lol
SASaffolk
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19 Jul 2024, 00:48#13
Adi was shit Moz and we all know that. You were about the only person on the planet that rated him
You can’t tell me Adi was good and then tell me Olivier was poor.
I know the reality of Olivier - had he played at a different time he would have been a good test 12
SA have only really had Jean, de Allende and Esterhuizen as standout 12’s, Olivier was next in line after these guys - he was far better than the likes of de Wet Barry or Brendan Venter or even my school mate Hennie le Roux who was a brilliant 10 but never a 12, he was far too small for 12.
One 12 I really rated but he never got many tests was Heinrich Fuls and Danie v Schalkwyk - geez blasts from the past. There was a Scholtz as well, was it Christian Scholtz? I think Danie was a 13, who played alongside Wynand Olivier? But I’m not sure
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19 Jul 2024, 17:00#15
Adi Jacobs was utter shit
Could not tackle for shit
Another Juan de Jongh
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19 Jul 2024, 19:06#17
Give me a break - there was a reason he was called revolving door
SASaffolk
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19 Jul 2024, 19:10#19
He was utterly shit - could not tackle to save his life and that spans his entire career
Fourie vs Adi is unbelievably insulting
SASaffolk
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19 Jul 2024, 19:28#21
Nope I saw him playing for years on par with Juan de Jongh - both utterly shit
Up there with de Wet Barry and Braam v Straaten