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Dirty Stinking Cheating NH Ref Matthew Carley

Started by moolaa12 REPLIES1,884 VIEWS· 11 Sept 2023, 02:58
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moolaaPro2,380 posts
11 Sept 2023, 02:58
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11 Sept 2023, 02:58#1
What a disgrace to his profession this wanker is! In the Welsh vs Fiji game today he exhibited blatant bias against the Fijians. Late in the game he simply refused to give the Welsh a 2nd yellow when he had no problem doing so last week when binning Cane shortly after Barrett! However, what was worse was the incident before half time where the Fijian lost the ball over the line. Just prior to that a Welsh defender flew in low with his shoulder and took the legs out from under the Fijian and he subsequently lost the ball when hit by another player. Carley said no infringement as he could see the Welsh player’s arm coming around. This is just complete bullshit! Correct result should have been a yellow card and a penalty try!! What say you Hasbeeno? Crooked NH refs or what??
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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
11 Sept 2023, 06:25
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11 Sept 2023, 06:25#2

Rugby is a highly political game. Refs are deep in politics. The bunker is  flooded with political considerations.

SC vs SA rugby: early on, head to head contact, tackler upright, willingdully ignored by the ref.

To be compared to other similar situations that happened in other games.

Way easier to be brutal when refs prefer to look the other way.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
11 Sept 2023, 06:29
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11 Sept 2023, 06:29#3
I noticed it too, Moola. They were on about 10 penalties on their goal line and he had even warned them. Everyone I was watching the game with were asking if he'd forgotten Wales were on a warning. And yeah that goal line hit was two shoulder smashes. That should have been a penalty try and a yellow.
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Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
11 Sept 2023, 09:04
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11 Sept 2023, 09:04#4

Rugby politics is like the hierarchy of bias and corruption in leftist identity politics. 

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
11 Sept 2023, 11:02
#5
11 Sept 2023, 11:02#5

That poor Fiji winger. 

The guy must feel so bad today.

The grass was likely full of dew and the ball skidded onto him faster than he thought it would.

Feel for the guy.

One thing is for sure, I won't be forgetting that game any time soon.

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becsPro4,378 posts
11 Sept 2023, 13:03
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11 Sept 2023, 13:03#6

We have to put up with his poor officiating in the Premiership all the time. 

I saw the second half and it was a disgraceful display. 

I also want to know how Jessie Kriel escaped a red card for his head on head clash in the Scotland match. Very poor officiating in this RWC so far. 

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
11 Sept 2023, 13:56
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11 Sept 2023, 13:56#7

Haha they showed that Jessie's head incident once, very quickly, and never went back to it. So I only saw it once.

At the time I didn't think it looked too bad but they could have at least had a closer look.

To be honest, I think it was probably a yellow ...but the one on Friday against Curry was ridiculous. Every comment I have read, including many on Reddit and YouTube, agrees that it was never in a million years a red card.

This is exactly the type of situation that those sorts of stupid decisions create. It sets a precedent.

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becsPro4,378 posts
11 Sept 2023, 14:07
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11 Sept 2023, 14:07#8

It was almost identical to Curry’s. 

If his was a Red, everyone else doing the same should get Red. As you say, a precedent was set and should be adhered to. 


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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
11 Sept 2023, 14:12
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11 Sept 2023, 14:12#9

Finn Russell's premeditated shoulder charge on Kurt Lee Arendse was far more deserving of a red than Tom Curry's accidental head clash. 

Russell got off Scot free (if you'll excuse the pun) while Curry missed 78 minutes of a crucial game and will pick up a suspension.

Some consistency please.

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becsPro4,378 posts
11 Sept 2023, 14:27
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11 Sept 2023, 14:27#10

I agree, Rooinek. 

It’s making a mockery of the whole thing. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Sept 2023, 03:55
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12 Sept 2023, 03:55#11

I thought the ref was even handed on ruck penalties….and Wales wee penalized more being mostly on the defensive. But there were innumerable round the head tackles of Fiji players that were not called. And there was justifiable anger when after one Welsh player got his marching orders, the ref then lamely issued another card warning, instead of a second card.

On the bringing down the maul penalty, the Welsh maul shifts laterally to the right with the ball carrier pivoting round the side of the maul and the Fijians literally turning off the back….so there were two Fijians defending the maul. Was that ‘changing lanes’…it sure looked like it.

But it was a brilliant game by both sides and Wales helped make it so by not closing up shop and taking Fiji on at their own game. And they got lucky, Fiji dominated territory and possession 58% and 65%. And outgained Wales 655 metres to 396 metres.


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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
12 Sept 2023, 05:27
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12 Sept 2023, 05:27#12
It's a bullshit rule, that's why they have trouble officiating it. They know very well this means matches are going to be ruined by accidental contacts. 
If you decide contact to the head is red, then red it and be done with it. Now some don't get penalized, some get yellow and thrown into the bunker system for someone to "review" (it was either head contact or not, what do you want to review?). If you want effective laws, apply them to the letter. Once you open them to interpretation and mitigation you might as well scrap them, because then you have the inconsistent mess you have now where the outcome will depend on the official of the day and how he feels about it.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
12 Sept 2023, 06:34
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12 Sept 2023, 06:34#13
And all of it will amount to players taking a dive as soon as the feel contact to their head.
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