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Div's Zimbabwe sleep on the streets for World Tour Qualifiers

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sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,254 posts
03 Jul 2018, 11:53
#1
03 Jul 2018, 11:53#1

No money, Div's Zimbabwe sleep on the streets

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Cape Town - Zimbabwe’s national rugby team have been forced to sleep on the streets of Tunisia as they prepare for their match this weekend.

The Zimbabweans, who lost 45-36 to Kenya in a Rugby World Cup qualifier last weekend, are in the north African country this week where they will be looking to get their qualifying campaign back on track.


However, their preparation for the match has been hampered, allegedly as a result of appalling accommodation and a lack of funds.

Images have surfaced on social media (see below) of the team, coached by former Springbok coach Peter de Villiers, lying and sleeping on the streets.

Other reports indicated that they were held up at the airport for hours when authorities took their passports after they were unable to pay a visa fee.

One of the Zimbabwe players, flank Takudzwa Mandiwanza, told Zimbabwean radio station Capitalk FM that the tour has been a “shambles”.

“We have not been paid our daily allowances for our duration in Kenya, including our match fees that we did not receive. 


Now we’re in Tunisia, we were detained at the airport for close to six hours, with no allowances given to us.”

He added that De Villiers had bought the players sandwiches and drinks out of his own pocket.

“We’d be hungry right now. The situation is very frustrating and disheartening."

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
03 Jul 2018, 11:58
#2
03 Jul 2018, 11:58#2

Wow!! A total disgrace.

Why do they tolerate it?

They c an't be that desperate ... ??

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,254 posts
03 Jul 2018, 11:59
#3
03 Jul 2018, 11:59#3

What a joke..... Maybe there should be a charity paid for rugby fans around the world to fund their efforts. 

The sad question is in 20 years will the Boks be the same? 

TIA - This Is Africa...


CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Jul 2018, 20:22
#4
03 Jul 2018, 20:22#4

SB

You are very generous to say 20 years from now - I would say 8-9 years.

So lets look at the comparisons:-

Zimbawe     -    Farmers chased off farms              -    20 years

SA               -    Farmers to be chased off farms      -   25 years

Zimbabwe   -    8 years later inflation                      -  100 billion %

SA               -    8 years later inflation                      -   same????

Zimbabwe   -   after 24 years                                   -    basket case

SA               -   after 29 years                                   -    basket case

All the signs are there - the economy is imploding already.

    

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,254 posts
03 Jul 2018, 20:31
#5
03 Jul 2018, 20:31#5
The Zimbabwe team must have had some funds, but it appears to have all be stolen. The initial plan was for their Sports minister to steal some of the funds, but unfortunately, everything was stolen....

Africa needs to outsource the government to another country- at least until/if there is a strong middle class. Otherwise, it will just be crooks lying to the uneducated masses for their votes, then stealing all the tax money.  

Alternatively, the West should recolonise Africa and take over the government, and only allow people of a certain education to vote. Then focus on training younger people to build a strong middle class of Africans, that in the future can elect a capable government. However, given that black people live in Western countries- why should the leaders be black unless by merit alone ?
GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
03 Jul 2018, 21:34
#6
03 Jul 2018, 21:34#6

When I was very young I hated injustices to the so called non -european people in SA...it was more to do with petty apartheid and the lack of respect for people with darker skins... an abomination...but when I went through stages in the world, Rhodesia, Kenya and travelled a bit and saw the world all my experiences and interaction with different nations and peoples lead me to a truth...Africa is totally incompetent to rule with Black majority governments...never was and never will...they need strength, rational, disciplined cultures but there cultures are totally poles apart from Europe's and other civilised nations of the world. We gave them which they really did not want...deep down there is a psychologic al hated of the white colonialist who was the foundation of civilisation every where be that in Africa, Americas, parts of Asia....Africans are lovely people in their own cultures but cannot be crash-coursed into learning about running successful businesses, enterprises or efficient costing and management of economics in government...this is not a myth but true...look at the whole continent of Africa from the North through Central, East and West right down to SA...not a single one a viable and ongoing concern. Always blaming every one in the world, abusing and squandering loans, abusing tax payers money....and many, many, weaknesses in law, justice and order...too much, one could go on and on forever...when you challenge, reprimand them or try to put them right they protest and scream "racialism"...the warped and crooked Western World supports them in the liberal departments of their governments for deep undercurrent, clandestine reasons.

My fears for this country are becoming real...as Alan Paton, if still living today would repeat..."Cry , my Beloved Country"

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,254 posts
04 Jul 2018, 01:31
#7
04 Jul 2018, 01:31#7
I was also in favour of ending Apartheid, and one vote per person etc. However, I have lost faith, and think it would be better to take a different approach because the current setup is just not working across Africa. Economies are declining, with growing populations- another approach has to be taken before things get worse and worse.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Jul 2018, 01:41
#8
04 Jul 2018, 01:41#8

The petrol price went up R1,06 in less than a month and another increase is to take place in August.   Petrol will soon cost R20 per liter pushing up the price of all consumables.  

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
04 Jul 2018, 13:06
#9
04 Jul 2018, 13:06#9

Well ... it's a little too late now to be losing your faith, Shark.

You wanted the black man in power. You got your wish. Smile, bro ... be happy!! The raw sewage flowing down the streets in Berea is what you voted for ... isn't it ... or do you live abroad?

The history of Africa and it's failing economies wasn't a heads-up for you?

You are a strong promoter of the quota in SA sport. Guys like Kolisi and Bongi. Tell me ... when the Boks fail because of the quotas, will you be losing faith in them too?

Where did you think our country would end up? Don't tell me you actually believed that we would be a prosperous nation?

You do know that Cinderella is only a fairy tale ... right?

Time to wake up, SharkShit. EVERYTHING a black man touches turns to sheeeat!!!

 You stupid dumb fcuk!!


sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,254 posts
04 Jul 2018, 13:40
#10
04 Jul 2018, 13:40#10
@Cleancut, who is dumber if I am living overseas and you are stuck in South Africa? You have said yourself that "you should have left South Africa, but you were too stupid and put all your eggs in one basket". 
If SA had turned the corner, I always had the option of returning. 
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
04 Jul 2018, 15:28
#11
04 Jul 2018, 15:28#11

Funny how those who live abroad have the biggest mouths when it comes to issues in South Africa.

They've tucked their tails and fled in fear ... and from afar they want to shout the odds.

You wanted them in ... and then when your wish materialized ... you realized your error in judgement and fled ... leaving us with your fcukup.

Now you want to do the same thing with the Boks. Quotas, quotas, quotas. One would think once burnt, twice shy ... but not with you, huh? South Africa isn't your home any longer so who gives a flying toss ... right?

You really are a spineless twat.

You gave up your right to an opinion when you tucked tail and ran away.    

 

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,254 posts
04 Jul 2018, 15:39
#12
04 Jul 2018, 15:39#12
@DirtyCutMutt.. aka "The Lost Sheep"
Gave up any right to comment on South Africa....  No actually, my overseas world experience gives me more right to comment on South Africa's political situation. I will continue to correct your opinions DirtyMuttCutt.... no thanks is needed!
In case you don't realise, around 1992 most white South African's voted for equal democratic rights. The released figures stated that over 80% of white people voted for democracy- one person, one vote. 
However, even if it was not a unanimous vote-  the writing was on the wall when Mandela was going to be released. The change was inevitable, regardless of what anyone supported.
The tribal divisions could unite under one leader, so the reality is that their was either going to be a civil war where the minority was certain to lose- or democratic one man, one vote. The ANC (at the time)- could have even counted on international support to make this happen....

--Are you so vocal about your political opinions in the workplace, or are you just the work bitch that gets slapped around- and does nothing-  only to then uses internet websites to voice your opinions behind the scenes?  
Other South Africans that still live in SA, often tell each other to leave SA if they become too negative. Surely you should have left ages ago.... Some people are stuck in SA just trying to make the best of things be it as it is... At least SA still has wonderful weather and nice beaches. What I would do to surf in Durban instead of here in the colder water of the UK. 

P.s I call a spade a spade, and a quota a quota.Some of the black players are merit players. (e.g. Beast, the 2 Bok Wings, etc etc). Bongi is pretty good, and Nyakni is too. Perhaps their are better players in these positions- but Bongi did play better than the old timer Schalk at 2.Kolisi was great last season, and it is not as if we have an international standard specialist fetcher at 6 to choose from. Most/all of the players of colour are merit, in addition to the mentioned black players. 
You are so stupid that you call any black player a quota- even if they are a merit player. What do you expect Hitler's master race to make up the whole of the matchday squad? 
AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
04 Jul 2018, 20:43
#13
04 Jul 2018, 20:43#13

Everyone can have a perspective and opinion on anything. It's the belief that someone has more "right" that causes the beginning of problems. South Africans living in ZA are the ones making the country a mess. If we are saying who has more right than who then that's a huge blow to the people living in ZA on my opinion. The biggest thing to me is dishonesty and unwillingness to point out the truth. The truth will set you free, but all thee social justice causes are based on lies or half-truths at best to lead to a full lie. The terrorists in ZA are run by billionaire bankers who use fear of white colonialism to keep the Socialist/Communist terrorists in power. Whites played a part in their own demise, but blacks have doubly bitten into themselves. They repeat mistakes over and over and struggle to learn. Those who do learn are viciously attacked by their own people. The Globalists have blacks believing that the only way to be truly black is being violent, selfish, uneducated, hyper emotional, prejudiced etc. All the stuff that authoritarian ideologies use to bring the social unrest to bring in the full manifestation of the oppression. Give the minorities or majorities (depending on the mechanisms used within a state) to hang themselves with over extending powers for a short time. Like neoliberalism. They'll lose all the powers they had before and be enslaved just like those people they oppressed and overcame. Black South African should be very wary in view of what happened with Zimbabwe. Right on their own doorstep. 

DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
05 Jul 2018, 02:38
#14
05 Jul 2018, 02:38#14

Mr Clean

A coupla questions without notice.

The quota system is permanent and the plan is for it's percentage to increase. All of us agree that in principle it is wrong but you more than anyone else choose to repeatedly vent your frustration on social media. A fruitless exercise. It's like listening to Mickey monotonously banging away about Fat Fransie, Meyer, Alberts, Coetzee and Jake White.....painfully boring.

My question is...why do you continue to support the Boks when nothing is going to change with regards to quotas? I really don't understand why you don't walk away and put the Boks behind you, instead you whine away on a platform which cannot effect the change you crave.

My second question without notice...…...you whine away about the ruling party the ANC, why then don't you leave South Africa like others have?  It's the old story, if you hate your employer then find a different one. Once again, nothing is going to change for you by whining away on social media....change is in the power of your hands.

And just in case you say that I'm another who ran away(1979), allow me to inform you that I migrated because I hated living a life under Apartheid, that I left my family and close friends behind and that my wife and I were penniless on our arrival in Sydney, Australia.

WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
05 Jul 2018, 08:38
#15
05 Jul 2018, 08:38#15

When I was playing we used to billet other players and in turn be billeted ourselves and it was a great way to strengthen the bond that rugby creates .As a teenager I was able to go to the US in the 70s and was billeted by some fabulous folks ,we could not have afforded to  pay for accomodation especially in the university towns and if we had we would have been the poorer for it in more ways than one.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 Jul 2018, 09:08
#16
05 Jul 2018, 09:08#16

SA is an unholy mess and whether you live in the country or not it is easy to recognize.   Education is a shambles and children coming out of government schools cannot even read and understand what they are reading.   The health and hospital services has collapsed and 90% of local government institutions are malfunctioning.   

Under Zuma the crooks took over and every institution was infiltrated by them.   Much has been written about State Owned Enterprises - but the condition in most government departments and municipalities are rarely mentioned in the media.   Take for instance the   Municipality where I worked until 2012.   When I left they had a reserve fund of R500 million.   All that ,money vanished and the Municipality at the moment is in dire straights.  They had a clean audit for seven years - but had a bad Auditor General report the last financial year.   What actually happened - the crooks took over and looted it badly.   The other Municipalities are even worse.

I get requests to help from various institutions and has to write reports for them as well.   The latest response from one of those was amazing and I am waiting for follow-ups.   However, I made it clear to them any further requests for help will not be free-of-charge.               

KM
Ka MateClub Pro246 posts
05 Jul 2018, 10:05
#17
05 Jul 2018, 10:05#17
Notsoclevermike, if there is anyone in South Africa who needs your help with anything then the country is in a much worse state than I thought.
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
05 Jul 2018, 19:27
#18
05 Jul 2018, 19:27#18

Ka Mate, if you are in any way an indication of the mentality of people in or from NZ, I'd rather be genocided here than move to where you were brainwashed into your current state. One bitter negative peace of work you are.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,254 posts
05 Jul 2018, 22:08
#19
05 Jul 2018, 22:08#19
Kamate is a loser. I expect he lives on the dole, but posts on various websites around the world wanting credit for the success of the 15 players who start for the All Blacks.
Probably could not make the 10th team in school.....

DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
06 Jul 2018, 09:18
#20
06 Jul 2018, 09:18#20

Kakmatie lives in Alberton where the only attraction is the supermarket, now  on a day when it gets flooded because of a leaking roof you'll find he has nothing else to do....

WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
07 Jul 2018, 10:40
#21
07 Jul 2018, 10:40#21

Good thing beandick isnt indicative of you Saffa chaps eh ?

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
07 Jul 2018, 12:51
#22
07 Jul 2018, 12:51#22

What da ya mean Wardad, of coarse Beenz is indicative.. we have all sorts here. Not everyone can be as grand as I.

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