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Do the Wallabies pose a serious threat to the All Blacks?; The ROAR By Scott Allen,

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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
24 Jun 2014, 11:06
#1
24 Jun 2014, 11:06#1

The mid-year Test series for both the Wallabies and All Blacks concluded, the next time we’ll see both teams in action is the first Bledisloe Cup match for 2014 in Sydney on 16 August.

 

Rugby in this country needs as much positive press as it can get and a series whitewash against the French, winning seven matches in a row, a capacity crowd at the final Test, the performance of Israel Folau, and the size of the big bloke, Will Skelton, have all contributed to good rugby headlines this week.

 

The Wallabies were good against France and the squad appears to be developing well.

However, let’s be realistic about the quality of the French opposition – they weren’t anywhere near the level the Wallabies will face against New Zealand and South Africa, or even England later in the year.

 

The All Blacks weren’t at their best in their series against England, but showed periods of complete dominance. England provided much better quality opposition for them than than the Wallabies faced.

 

The preposterous suggestion from some in the England media that the All Blacks are in decline was shown to be nothing more than an attention-grabbing headline.

 

Already this week we’ve seen articles in various outlets, including on The Roar, talking up the prospects of the Wallabies and individual players against the All Blacks this year. Even if there are genuine prospects, I still cringe when people talk up performances before we’ve seen whether the Wallabies can actually deliver.

 

If you look at the Wallabies’ performance against France from a New Zealand point of view, what are the key areas or key players you’d focus on in preparation?

Here are my six.

1. Israel Folau
One of the biggest threats in world rugby, he’s one of only two Wallabies who are world-class players and the All Blacks will be very focussed on him.

2. Michael Hooper
The other world-class player the Wallabies have poses a big threat for the All Blacks. He isn’t a significant threat in the ruck and the All Blacks will target him physically in this area. However, the All Blacks will be threatened by his speed, his ability to pop up everywhere and his skills in attack – he’ll be heavily marked.

3. The Wallabies’ scrum
The performance against the French scrum was patchy at best. The tighthead side of the scrum continues to be a real weakness for the Wallabies and the All Blacks will target this.

4. Tevita Kuridrani
The Wallabies are building their attack around Kuridrani being able to get the ball over the gain line in the wider channels. If that’s achieved, they can get quick ball and try to catch teams on the back foot on the next phase. The All Blacks will target Kuridrani, knowing if they can neutralise this key element of the Wallabies’ game plan, they’ll revert to Plan B, which involves too much kicking.

5. Nic White
White’s form deteriorated as the French series went on and the All Blacks will target him. If they can put him under pressure, they’ll go a long way to shutting down the Wallabies’ attack and probably force some of the poor kicking we’ve seen from him recently.

6. Rob Simmons
The Wallabies’ lineout is currently too reliant on Simmons. The French were slow to recognise this but targeted him much better in the third Test. The All Blacks are the best in the world in defensive lineouts and they will be all over the Wallabies if they rely too much on Simmons, or any other player. They also know Simmons is the only genuine defensive threat the Wallabies have, so won’t be calling the ball anywhere near him to negate the threat.

Some of you will be suggesting I’ve missed one from my list – Will Skelton. The All Blacks won’t see the need to focus on him at all. He made a good debut against France but the headlines suggesting he’s a superstar or the key to the Wallabies defeating the All Blacks are an over reaction.

 

Skelton had a number of highlights in the match.

 

Firstly, his try in the eighth minute, but that was dreadful defence by the French. If he runs without support and high like that against the All Blacks, he certainly won’t be scoring and will likely be driven backwards and see possession turned over.

 

Secondly, he drove into a French maul in the 33rd minute and made a good impact.

Thirdly, he set up Israel Folau’s try in the 42nd minute, which showed fantastic skills.

It was this last impact on the match that was by far his best. He’s very skilful and I’m sure we’ll see plenty more similar plays for the Wallabies as he’s going to be in the setup for many years to come.

 

I’m not suggesting he didn’t make a good debut, but those highlights don’t make it anything more than solid. Sam Carter’s was a better overall debut in the first Test of the series.

 

Wycliff Palu poses much more of a threat to the All Blacks than Skelton does. His game in the third Test against France was the best I’ve seen from him in attack in many years, but while the All Blacks will be aware of what he can do, they won’t see him as a significant threat who needs to be focussed on.

So have we really seen anything from the Wallabies that suggests they pose a serious threat to the All Blacks in 2014?

 

I hope I’m wrong, but no, based on what we’ve seen in the last three weeks the Wallabies still need to make significant improvements to challenge the All Blacks.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
24 Jun 2014, 11:12
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24 Jun 2014, 11:12#2

An Ozzie with a restraind view of the Wobblies chances against the ABs. We should preserve this as an important historical artifact, lol

 

Wobblies will always be a challenge and if things go right for them they will give the ABs plenty to handle. Same as the Boks v Wales, if one team under performs and the other over performs it there could be a surprise.

BO
bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
24 Jun 2014, 11:27
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24 Jun 2014, 11:27#3
 Wouldn't surprise me to see the Waratahs take out the Superugby title this year .
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Jun 2014, 11:45
#4
24 Jun 2014, 11:45#4
 Wouldnt be surprised to see the Wobblies taking the abs. There were long periods when the England team dominated the wee abs and that away from home and with key players missing.This journalist is delusional. The Wobblies are a very real threat.
Please note the comments re Hopper. He is slower than Deon Fourie and not as strong physically. Unfortunately we have thrown Deon away!! What a waste!!
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
24 Jun 2014, 12:34
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24 Jun 2014, 12:34#5
 
They certainly have my attention.

Never thought I'd ever say this but I'm becoming a big fan of the Wallabies.

I wish then well!!!
AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
24 Jun 2014, 19:49
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24 Jun 2014, 19:49#6
  another very interesting article, JW.

I wouldn't discard the wallabies' options so hardly but the rest he writes has a lot of sense. Folau and Hooper are no doubt their best players and their biggest weapons, they are building part of their attack around Kuridrani and it will be crucial for the final outcome if the AB can annul these threats or not.

Too true also that their scrum, specially the tighthead, remains as their main weakness even though they have improved and that Nick White is their weakest link. Surely the AB (and later the springboks) will target them.

Another attacking threat of the wallabies to take into account for the next RC could be Beale who had few gametime during the series but showed his class each opportunity he had. Now Toomua is injured, and it seems for a long time, Beale will very probably take his place. To the playmaking skills he adds the X-factor, wich Toomua lacks, and can form a very dangerous combo at the centres with Kuridrani
MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
24 Jun 2014, 21:33
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24 Jun 2014, 21:33#7
wallabies are the only team that really worry me in 2014, and its good to see folks jumping on the waratahs bandwagon too, i believe abasquefan and i were the only ones who talked up the tahs before the season began.

the last two years has seen the wallabies forced to bloody a ton of new players, this has now worked to their advantage as, they have some pretty good depth in all areas.

@brother beeno,
i dont think any saffa should be talking about the english team to the kiwis, after all we won all three of our tests aaginst england in our backyard, and meyer didnt,
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,295 posts
24 Jun 2014, 21:51
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24 Jun 2014, 21:51#8
The Wallabies may need another year to be a threat to both the ABS and Boks. Many of their players are still new, as are the combinations.

The missing hamburger Link also needs to prove that he has it to coach at international level in terms of game plan and implementation. He spoke about dumbing things down last year.

All 3 teams are going to be better than the warm up N.Tour, so will just have to see how good all 3 teams are this year.

All 3 teams gave some good performances, but were also pushed on at least 2 occasions.
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