Do we need PSDT in the backline?

It added nothing to the Bok attack on Saturday - once he tossed a head high skip pass to his wing, the other time the ball rolled between his legs when he was camped out on the wing. Here is another situation just before halftime. The Boks have two men over. All they need to do is move it through the hands and Arendse walks over.

PSDT at first receiver runs back into contact though, and his offload goes slightly behind Sacha, who drops it before being swamped by a cluster of three Georgian defenders anyway, because the Boks are playing into contact, not into space. The space was out wide, not around the ruck.

Again the question has to be asked: what is Tony Brown teaching the Bok backs? We already had the skip pass to kill any numbers we might have down before he arrived. What else has he brought outside of the DDA grubber?

Its all about mixing things up.

Why be so predictable? May as well fire Rassie and get Heyneke or David in to the mix!

The fact is that the AB's used that kind of strategy for decades and in doing so reigned supreme in wold rugby/ Using loosies a part of he backline attcks and strengthen backline attacks and make defense aganst such atatcks mre complicated,

So arguments like the one raised here ias vbased n BS nd a return to using kicks as athe only means by backli nes and return to kick the shit out of balls. So return to what undermine rugby in SA and return to dead backline usage in future/ Amazing what our site rugby exoerts come up with on site,

Chippo is dead right on that issue - with no real rugby for the nezxt month cause amazing levels of BS spreading on site, The Bulls faied to win trophies for years because they use a system Pakie seems to favor by raising this issue,

I expect some real funnies being raised on site in August until the RC starts in mid-August. Adter that the main topicss will become how bad players like Du Toit and De Allende is ang =d how the latter wmst be repalced by Esterhuizen, Real BS supreme/

Yes, a flank in the backline being unable to spot a two man overlap outside and running back into traffic is really keeping the opposition on its toes. We need this kind of variation so we don't score too many tries. You boys are completely right, of course.

Yes

If their is an overlap, it would be better to use him as a decoy runner. Although where he is standing, it is pretty hard to skip him out of the line

That's where Siya and PSDT go to catch their breath

Pieter and Mandela are loose forwards for god sake!!! They should be hitting the rucks hard and fight for turnovers!!

But Pieter is a bit on the tall side so he is useless effecting turnovers and Mandela doesn’t like to get his hands dirty and is also useless useless at effecting turnovers.

Also these two always hanging around in the Backline far away from where they should be, the Rucks, is nothing new!!

Before Brown came along, they were already doing it??!! So it’s got Dr. Lucky Packet written all over it….

This Arrogant wind Bag Fake Erasmiss, is a control freak and he is overriding Brown….

So effectively Brown,s input gets minimised and Erasmiss is the one controlling the Backline mostly

( Although Dr.Lucky,s strong suit is definitely not Backline play)

Its total BS Spreading as Uncle Crazy Mike would say …..

"Arrogant wind Bag Fake Erasmiss"

hahahahahahaha

What an idiot.

David, come brother... I need some support here.

MPower and Pakie are talking bullshit again.

Geez Chippo you preach to Mr. Searle that he is always rude and insulting, but then you call me a Idiot…

Why don’t you go ahead and practice what you preach….

Nope we don’t need him in the backline. Another senseless Dr Lucky gimmick.

Mpower... stop pretending to be slow and try to understand my humour.

All good Chippo :)

No real rugb y to write about for t he enext three weeks and a real time for site idiocy to take over, The fact is they idiots moan about back line attacking rugby and when it does happen they ignore it,and call it "Traditional Springbok Rugby that ruled Supreme for near to 20 ears afyer 1999.

This lot wants the Springboks to lose so the can have real cause for their moaning The level of rugby idiocy on this site is really amazing. It all started with Mozart saying it would be better for Coetzee to be retained instead of appointing Erasmus, That BS continued unabated since then.

When the Springboks win matches theys epcialze on why they should ave lost and for that purpose see things hey believe and want to see and ignore reality totally. Really amazing - but one can only ;laugh at stupidty and pity the idiots.

The level of rugby idiocy on this site is really amazing.

I agree, we have people on here thinking that Kriel scored a try against Georgia.

Clever

Mozart saying it would be better for Coetzee to be retained instead of appointing Erasmus, That BS continued unabated since then.

Reality

MozartHall Of Famer

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Nov 13, 2018, 18:39

No doubt...but not with the 'expansive rugby' everybody was clammering for last year. In my view we are better:

1 Because we have Pollard, Willie and de Klerk back in the mix.

2 We are playing a style much more suited to our resources.

3 Erasmus is more hands on than Coetzee who left the coaching to the loser Brendan Venter.

4 There is a massive improvement in our defence under the Nibelung (I saw Siegfried on Sunday)....this is probably the real improvement everybody senses.

Yes, PSDT should be used in the backline...he is a loose forward after all...and he in particular has been a handy link player on many occasions in the past.

"That's where Siya and PSDT go to catch their breath"

Lol, by running more?

Draad he might have been lucky running unto a ball passed by Backline players.

But evident vs Italy and Georgia this did not work out well for him or Kollisi… they were both stopped very effectively.

All the good Teams know already about these two and obviously have there counter measure in place.

If PSDT plays a linking role close to the ruck, that can be effective.

But hovering out by the wings is not his place.

Spot on Chip fuck me these numpties bitch and moan that we don’t attack enough, which in itself is a load of shit, but mixing it up with PSDT and Kolisi is now a problem with them - pathetic

There was some lovely innovate attacking plays displayed on Saturday - loved it

There's a time to recognize when something is on - that's the time you as a slow forward should remove yourself from the equation and let the backs to their job instead of lumbering around throwing pointless skip passes or running back into traffic when your wing is open and clear. No one in the media will point this shit out - the golden boy players just get their 8/10 participation trophy rating with the usual pablum template to summarize their "performance" - no one casts a critical eye. When will we see any media writer point to PSDT being effortlessly blown off the ball multiple times against Georgia when he was in a position to compete for a turnover? De nada, you will hear about work rate and tackles, the template has already been written and they're not afraid to use it.

If it’s done close to the rucks in those channels where there is also space available, it can be effective.

But there primary roles should be hitting those rucks hard and effecting turnover ball.

If Kolisi is running around close to the wings, who is supposed to be our fetcher huh??

Same count’s for Stef. They doodling around in the Backline which firstly means that , we minus two players at the ruck.

Secondly defensively we are more vulnerable around the ruck and thirdly how many time are they actually successful at making a impact out wide??

Ah so you are another pathetic anti PSDT are you - I thought you had more credit than that

But agreed he could have been more dominant over the ball - was too upright - not seen him do it in the past - seems a new role added like being out wide - but his technique was flawed

I like PSDT, Dave. I'm anti-lazy journalism and observation. There is little depth in rugby journalism and banter, and when you dare question a high profile player's contribution this is the typical, equally shallow reaction you get. It's like barely anyone wants to scratch deeper than the surface - most people just want to speak about rugby in commentator cliches.

He simply isn’t an effective runner…no acceleration, easy to bring down, no offload. In the WC he ran 33 times and beat 2 tackles. Savea beat 4 tackles just in the WC final…Earl beat 3 tackles in the semi.

And he can’t fetch, I documented several fetching opportunities he blew on Saturday, each worth 30 metres. We lost the Irish test last year because he didn’t contest at the death.

He can tackle and he is big adding to the intimidation factor. He does a a decent pick and go. But the man is a lock.

Bullshit he is a very effective runner as we witnessed on the EOYT

Great addition out wide and a great carrier in traffic

Once again Chat opines:

Current Top Ball-Carrying Forwards (2023–2024)

?? Back Row (Loose Forwards)

Down goes Dave in flames again

Idiots and morons

psdt doesn’t soma chill on the wing.

there is obviously patterns of play that lead to him being there.

it isn’t something that just happens.

it’s planned that under certain circumstances, players should be at x or y or play at x or y.

the coaching staff put hundreds of hours in to plans, strategies, systems and plays.

you idiots come here and flap gums like you know everything then proceed to rub each others egos by dissing Rassie and David… 2 people who know way more than you rubbishes.

in Rassie we trust and in Rassie we believe.

has MPower, chatGPT and Pakie led us to 2 world cups and to the top of world rugby? No.

Bloody couch supporters

Chimp I know we all have our views on here, sometimes not even agreeing on things. But I must say it’s touching to see your loyal support for Rassie and particularly Dave. I’m sure Dave is deeply touched as am I to see such empathy and concern. You are an inspiration man…good on you cobber.

Chippo we all come on here and chat about Rugby a game we all like…. But you must get your facts straight before you flap those gums of yours…

Like the guy you protecting Mr. Searle is the most known on Ruckers that think he is gods gift to rugby….

Also your post stinks of hypocrisy as on a different thread you are scolding Mr. Searle about how bad he insults people and it can only mean he has a low IQ.

I have never proclaimed to know everything about Rugby and I am here like everyone else to debate my opinion.

So do us all a favour and get your head out of Dave’s and your own ass, and stop acting all holy…

And by the way I will stand to what I say on here and therefore I am telling you that Rassie is a good coach in his own way….

But he is definitely a windgat big Mouth !!

Dave and I have a love hate relationship. I love him, he hates me.

but, I do think he knows more about the game than some of you semen samples.

Instead of posting about my relationship with our fellow poster, comment rather on my take on the game.

Ag shame man I am sure Mr. Searle loves you to….hang in there it will all get better Chippo…..

But do hurry up and remove your big head out of his ass, as that will definitely cause his love to fade…

Mpuff you can’t come on here and debate rugby if you know fuck all about the game now can you?

So Moz Chat is lying here as well?

How good is PSDT at carrying the ball

Pieter?Steph du Toit is widely regarded as one of the most formidable ball?carriers in world rugby, combining remarkable power, stamina, and consistency.

All your forwards listed play 6 or 8 - players that operate wider than a 7

Game set and match as always

Honestly you almost tell every single poster on here that they know nothing about Rugby!!

And off course you know everything.… you are seriously delusional, shame…

Just go make yourself a cup of tee and have a marie Biscuit or better yet a space cake, just unwind…

Go do that now and shut your trap and give us a break, honestly you like a teenager in puberty….

Run along now…..

Give it to him David

Give it to him David

Why don’t you give to me Chippo?

But if you ask Chat to elaborate this is what you get:

Du Toit vs that profile:

He's more of a tight defensive workhorse — dominating in the first few meters from the ruck, but not a threat in broken play, nor a presence at the jackal point, nor a link in counterattack.

Mpuff I know my rugby that’s one thing I’m very certain about

We can’t say the same for you I’m afraid

But take comfort in the fact that you know more than Sharktwat