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Dobson on Sacha

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
09 Nov 2025, 18:47
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09 Nov 2025, 18:47#1

“He’ll go down as the best Springbok of all time.”


John Dobson doesn’t flinch when he says it. No hesitation, no forced humility — just conviction. He’s not trying to stir headlines; he’s stating what he believes. When asked how the Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu story ends, Dobson’s eyes light up like someone who’s already seen the last scene play out.


“We’ve never seen anything like him,” he says. The man’s been around long enough to know talent from hype. “He’s got everything and then some. He’s not normal. The things he’s already doing are beyond most players. His ceiling is higher than anyone I’ve ever seen. If he stays on track, I think he’ll retire as the best to ever wear the Springbok jersey.”


It’s a statement that sounds almost dangerous to say out loud — the kind you whisper so fate doesn’t overhear. But Dobson means every word. Then, as if to balance the prophecy, he adds softly, “It’s going to come down to management. The workload, the pressure, the hype, the injuries. The product is there. It’s everything else that could break him.”


Sacha is twenty-three — barely past the age where most players are still finding their feet. Sixteen Test caps, a handful of starts, and already, a nation waiting for him to carry its rugby soul. South Africa has always built its legends quickly and torn them down even faster. In this world, the weight of expectation can be as heavy as the ball itself.


Dobson first spotted what he calls “the madness” back in 2021, during a Stormers pre-season clash against the Cheetahs. A teenager, barely shaving, and yet he made twenty-two tackles. “There’s no system on earth that requires your 10 to make 22 tackles,” Dobson laughs. “It was chaos. But that’s Sacha — reckless in the best possible way.”


Then, the tone shifts. “He didn’t respect his body enough,” he says. “Not because he’s fragile, but because he’s all in. Every second, every tackle, every run. We had to teach him how to manage that intensity — when to push, when to pull back, how to last. And he’s done it.”


The growth, Dobson credits partly to the Springboks camp — Rassie Erasmus, the veterans, the culture. Something clicked. The flash remained, but it was sharpened, focused. “The difference was night and day,” Dobson says. “From the quarter-final in May, where he was poor, to October, where he was scoring tries and running games like a general. The leap was incredible. He’s starting to play like a finished product — and he’s just getting started.”


But talent rarely walks a straight line. Sacha’s edge has gotten him into trouble too — yellow cards, tempers flaring, moments that made the headlines for the wrong reasons. Critics call him arrogant. They say he plays for himself, that he enjoys the spotlight too much. And maybe he does — but is that really a crime?


In a rugby culture built on quiet humility and post-match prayers, his energy can feel like rebellion. He celebrates. He smirks. He plays like the game owes him a moment to shine. But as former coach Nick Mallett once pointed out, there’s a difference between arrogance and belief. “What I see in Sacha is belief,” Mallett said. “He’s not saying he’s better than everyone else — he’s saying, ‘Give me the ball, I can help us win.’”


Dobson agrees. “People confuse confidence with ego. He just hates losing — at anything. Drills, gym sessions, team meetings. That’s who he is. And honestly, he’s the hardest worker in the squad.”


Inside the Stormers camp, the talk of arrogance makes even less sense. Dan du Preez, his teammate and roommate on tour, rolls his eyes at it. “He’s one of the most down-to-earth guys you’ll ever meet,” he says. “Polite, tidy, funny — just a bit too obsessed with Chelsea. But he plays with edge. You need that to be great. He lifts everyone around him.”


Dobson knows it. “There’s already so much noise around him. Everyone wants a piece — media, sponsors, fans. And when he dips, because every player dips, some people will turn on him. Call him overrated, a fraud. That’s the danger. He needs protection. He’s a good kid — I don’t think South African rugby knows how lucky it is to have him.”


Maybe the real test isn’t whether Sacha can handle the pressure. Maybe it’s whether South Africa can handle Sacha. Whether the country can evolve with him — allow him to stumble, grow, experiment — without crushing him under its expectations. Because greatness doesn’t bloom in applause. It grows in space, in patience, in time.


And if Dobson’s right — if the prophecy holds — then Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu won’t just be remembered as a star. He’ll be remembered as the Springbok who made South Africa rethink what greatness looks like.



MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Nov 2025, 00:40
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10 Nov 2025, 00:40#2

Some interesting comments there….the bit about South Africa erecting and destroying their idols quickly. In the States sport stars are expected to have some ego. If you don’t it’s doubtful you’ll survive, but if you’re nasty about it, life also becomes more difficult. Sacha’s arrogance mostly manifests in celebrating something spectacular….the joy of performing rather than putting down the opponent. I’m totally okay with that.


How best to use that talent remains unresolved though, I cringe to see him at fullback and routine box kicking is a waste.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
10 Nov 2025, 01:08
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10 Nov 2025, 01:08#3

Yeah I think Mallett has it spot on - self belief mistaken for arrogance.


He is fearless and does throw his body into everything which is going to do him no favours at times

DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
10 Nov 2025, 03:30
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10 Nov 2025, 03:30#4

the best Springbok of all time?....that's selling him short.....the best rugby player of all time is more like it.

The key to Sacha is his self belief, his supreme confidence, nothing will undo him other than losing his supreme confidence.

Proof of that lies in the above very simple statement and I quote Dobson..."Give me the ball."

Sacha has a lot in common with Ali, Tiger, Carl Lewis and Michael Jordan etc

They were all talented, skilled and had off this planet self belief.

As an example we all know what happened to Tiger after he lost his self confidence.

Sacha left undisturbed will be a superstar.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Nov 2025, 04:20
#5
10 Nov 2025, 04:20#5

Tiger never lost his confidence, his body broke down….he won the Masters in 2019 when he could hardly walk the course.

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sharkbokCaptain20,097 posts
10 Nov 2025, 05:28
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10 Nov 2025, 05:28#6

Tiger was tamed after he was caught playing the field.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
10 Nov 2025, 06:44
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10 Nov 2025, 06:44#7

Tiger was tamed after he was caught playing the field.

Spot-on.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
10 Nov 2025, 07:28
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10 Nov 2025, 07:28#8

I said years ago that the combination of Afrikaner genes and Black genes would propel us to the top.

Broadly speaking the Afrikaners produce the best forwards in the Workd and the Black genes the superb backs.

Of course you will get great forwards from your Black players, people like the great Ox.

Likewise you will get great backs from the White players.

Before Isolation the Boks were the best team on the planet in terms of win ratios. What has happened now is that Blacks have become part of the scene as well.

So provided we have the right set up and good coaches etc the future looks good.

Unfortunately Rassie is a bit of an exception to the rule and most of our coach are nowhere near as good. This is a worry.

Another factor to consider is that rugby is a, sport that is growing among black folk who previously had been soccer mad.

Beeno as usual called it all long ago. Take a bow Beeno.

I also said tactically it would be a great move to go north and leave the Crooked refs if NZ and Oz behind us. This would not be helpful to nz who needed us as competitors and financially to prosper. Another great call by Beeno. Take another bow!

Now nz and Oz are crying and want us back. Don't think it's going to happen anytime soon. . Time zones are great as is the boodle. Refs give us a better deal on the whole.

Right now we seem to have the best of both worlds playing as we do in the Rugby Championship. Next year a tour of NZ etc.

Oaks if you can't be happy about Bok rugby now you are probably a member of the whining moaning lying anti Bok Mamparas Union. Bwahahahahahahaha.




PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
10 Nov 2025, 07:34
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10 Nov 2025, 07:34#9

Indeed, one could clearly see the "skop die bal" instructions on Saturday.


So annoying.


And then Manie comes on and Sacha had to move to 15. Playing the better player out of position to accommodate the lesser.


Sacha is our 10. Remove anyone that doesn't fit in with that and will present you with a situation where you have to play him anywhere else.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
10 Nov 2025, 07:50
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10 Nov 2025, 07:50#10

Yep Rassie got it all wrong and won the match by 15 points being a man down for 30 minutes in tbe second half.

Bwahahahahahahaha. Oh the misery of being a member of the Mampars Union..

How puzzling it must be for these Mamparas. Rassie getting it all wrong yet enjoying unprecedented success. How annoying for them. After alll each one of them knows so much more than lucky Erasmus! How do things end up going the way of Rassie and the Boks. Then Rassie wins ciacj of the year and Du Toit wins Workd player of the year awards. Everyone and everything is against us. Sob Sob and Sob!

And that mean Beeno keeps pointing out where we got it wrong. He is a groupie and his group is the rugby world. It's so unfair!

They insist we listen to them and agree with their daft calls. I do listen to them whenever I need a hearty laugh!! Hahahahahaha.


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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
10 Nov 2025, 08:16
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10 Nov 2025, 08:16#11

Yep and Rassie is Dr Lucky for having a player like Sacha Bwhahahahahaha.....and Williams....and Moodie...and Libbok....and Willemse.....and oh I forget......2 times world player of the year Stef Du Toit!!!

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
10 Nov 2025, 08:23
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10 Nov 2025, 08:23#12

Yes Denny it's side splitting stuff from our resident loons. Nowwhere for them to hide.

I think unlucky Mozzie is trying a pivot of sorts. He appears to be admitting the Boks are the top team? Dispite the best efforts of Rassie to undermine the Boks.


PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
10 Nov 2025, 08:43
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10 Nov 2025, 08:43#13

Ou Beenis


Why do you seem to want to act like I totally hate everything Rassie does?


Not agreeing with some things doesn't equate to full disapproval.


I think you're smart enough to know the difference but for some reason your "celebrations" have to include putting others down.


Perhaps go back and read some of you posts.


"I think unlucky Mozzie is trying a pivot of sorts. He appears to be admitting the Boks are the top team? Dispite the best efforts of Rassie to undermine the Boks."


The Boks are obviously the best side in the world at the moment. But even the best sides can be criticised for mistakes or poor decisions. Do you think Rassie doesn't criticise certain performances from the Boks or individual players?


EG If I say that Rassie got the team selection for Eden Park completely wrong - do you read that as "Plum hates Rassie and Plum hates the Boks"?


...or do you simply choose to read it that way because you're bored an want an argument?





CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Nov 2025, 09:28
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10 Nov 2025, 09:28#14

Plum


Th ere are two bservations I wis h to comment on. TNhe frst is kickin g for goal when it is clear that the Sprin gbok forwards ere domnaing the French forwards. The French showed us one thing. - when they get penalties they kicked fo the corners to enhance - they only kicked one penalty at goal - for the rest it was all corner kicks, For many years the tradition was that the Springboks played ten man rugby - That radition went alonm g wih the idea that panelty kicks became the main function of any flyhalf,


Scoring of tries became accidental - not art of the game, This goes back to 1997 when Carel Du Plessis pointed out thatthe S pringboks rarely score tries in test matches, He stated that the aims to chan ge the scenrio and contetrate on scorin g of thries, Within four months he built up a team thatscored the hig hest point ever against Austalia and the BRI Lions. The squad played real rug by - not ten man rugby. Mallett in herited he squad built up by u plessis and made 2 chan ges to the squad he inheritied - he selected Moore as inside center and moved MOntgomery from 3 to full back. With that squad Mallett won 16 test matches - b,ut then h e buggered up when h e was to replace the key players retiring form test rugby nd fired Teichman as captain. Mallett recently admitted he made a mess of the situation.


After that it was back to what Mozart called TRaditional S pringbok Ru gby consisting of kickin g the sh ot out of balls by t he scrummies or the flyhalfs, while the AB's introduced a different game plan alloowing for playing of 15 man rugby. They ruled the rugby world for decades. There are man examples showing chan ges when Erasmus ook ove he coaching. In 2018 -his first season as coach - backline players scored more tries than than the whole team scored in 2012. For the first time in Springbok history in the RWC in 2019 the Springboks .scord test tries in the final. By 2023 some top playes Erasmus developed and changed started losing form and key players and some were over their best playing years, Eramus realized the 10 man rugby game got embedded in SA franchise terams other than the Lions. He realized there was need for a drastic change and in 2024 he brought in Browne -but it obviously needed time to get away from ten man rugby predominant in the Bulls and Sharks franchises.


Another issue was predominant in the palying of franchises like the Bulls and Sharks were total missing of game plans in SA Rugby. Game plans are devised o determine what startegies are to be used in specifc tests and alrgely determined by t he studying of the strenghs and weaknesses in opposing teams, Based on that the fgame plans are develped and the team received trainin g to deal with those and stop the strengths of the opposing team through defense and exploit weaknesses though attacking play. Other times weathec onditions undermine game plans like a hppened in Eden Park this year and loss against the Australians.


The idea that goal kicking win matches for the Springboks went missing in those two cases, but was changed. Sometimes players let th e eam down - like Willie did in the D en Park test or brain farts like Kolbe had in the London test against Argentina.


The fact is that New Zealand also used kicks in the years they ruled the rugby world, Kicking was used for strategic purposes and often resulted in scorin g of tries, In S pringbok rugby ttheir wer mostl aimles and not strateic kicks used and still happen in Springbok rugby is often aimless kicking allowng opposing teams to launch attacks. With rare exceptions kicki.ng on Saturday was strategic. But kicking at goal - knowing that the Springboks had the upper hand is what is called BS supreme,


I think that Erasmus also makes mistakes - but in the main he is the best coach the Sprigbokds ever had and if he was looking for another coaching job - like happened in the case of Jones (paid % millon pounds by England) when he became England coach - he would probably earn ten times more than h e is paid as Springbok coach. But humans make errors and a few times those errors cased under-performances,


By the way - one of Erasmus's best moves ever was to move Esterhuizen from being an averagae center - to loose forwad where he already shown being a top class player,


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MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Nov 2025, 16:10
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10 Nov 2025, 16:10#15

Tiger was tamed by his body:


After winning the U.S. Open in June 2008, Woods underwent his fourth knee surgery to repair the ACL by using a tendon from his right leg thigh, and cartilage damage was also repaired. However, a few months later, the golfer injured his Achilles tendon in his right leg while running for preparation to return to golf.

While playing “The Players Championship in 2010,” Woods faced neck problems, and then he was withdrawn from the final round championship after the diagnosis, which showed that Woods had an inflamed facet joint in his neck.



MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Nov 2025, 16:11
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10 Nov 2025, 16:11#16

Golfers have survived alcohol, gambling and womanizing…,but when the body goes it’s tickets. Which is what makes Tiger’s 2019 Masters one for the ages.



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