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Dumb Bulls Bring back Werner Kruger instead of Marcel van der Merwe

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sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,295 posts
20 May 2014, 19:30
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20 May 2014, 19:30#1
Ludeke changes three for Brumbiesby Brenden Nel 20 May 2014, 15:05

It’s not often that you see a coach drop the very players that have just won him a major game, but Vodacom Bulls coach Frans Ludeke has decided to do just that.

Ludeke made three changes to his side to face the Brumbies in their Vodacom Super Rugby game at Loftus Versfeld on Friday night, and in the process dropped the three young stars that were sensational in getting his team across the line against the Stormers.

Captain Flip van der Merwe was always going to return after a three week suspension, with Paul Willemse dropping to the bench after some strong performances. But it is the dropping of Handre Pollard at flyhalf and Marcel van der Merwe at tighthead that has raised eyebrows in the team at the moment.

Pollard was last week named as the captain of the SA under-20 side for this year’s IRB Junior World Championships and very narrowly missed out on being named in a Springbok training squad. His performance against the Stormers, only his second start, showed maturity and determination to come back from an intercepted pass and yellow card to get his team across the line from a bad start.

Not only that, but he was in sensational form, as was Van der Merwe, whose two starts were enough to convince Springbok coach Heyneke Meyer to include him in the 36-man squad, but not enough to get him game time this week.

Wimpie van der Walt makes way for Willemse on the bench. Ulrich Beyers also comes onto the bench in place of William Small-Smith, who is ill.

To be fair, Jacques-Louis Potgieter was also in good form when he made way for Pollard, and deserves to be played again, while Werner Kruger has been a stalwart in the team for some time now.

Still, it is strange to see a coach change players who are in form, after performances like that, and it gives the idea that there was a pre-arranged deal that the younger players would get some game time, but only a limited amount.

“That’s the fantastic thing about all of them and the team, and the moment you begin to win, the self-confidence goes up and everyone looks better. You can see they are definitely on a different level than they were a few weeks ago. You must remember the things you believed in paid dividends,” Ludeke said of the changes on Tuesday.

“But it is also important, we have a lot of confidence in a guy like Flip, who put in a few massive performances before the suspension, in Werner (Kruger) and Jacques-Louis (Potgieter) to now start. We have a strong squad and we will need two No 1s in each position. Not every team has it and we are privileged to have such guys in a position like this. With their good performances, it is also nice to bring back guys like Werner, Flip and Jacques-Louis and give them an opportunity to make a difference.

“We all know Flip, he has a huge work rate and he is a specialist four lock. The work he has been doing in the last few seasons for us there is a lot. He adds a lot. It’s great to have him back.”

Ludeke said that this was very much still a rotational policy at the moment, where he was looking to change players to get the best out of them, but when it comes to the playoffs – if the Bulls qualify – the best team will play.

“Flip was off for three weeks so he is fresh and back, Paul (Willemse) had a lot of starts and got a lot of experience. The same with Werner, he had two weeks off. There is still a lot of hard work to be done, but if we are privileged enough to get into the finals, that’s where you know all the players and know who is valuable to have gotten the side there. Then we will pick the best combinations for that game.

“Strategy will always be the main thing in selection.”

Still, the debate about who is the best to take the team forward will carry on, with especially Van der Merwe’s elevation to the Bok training group likely to place a bit more pressure on Ludeke.

Friday night though will definitely be about strategy, with the Bulls set to play a tactical game and continue their aerial assault against a Brumbies team likely to employ the same tactics.

“Definitely both teams believe in field position, you can see it in all the games, but when they are in the right areas, they are very accurate and the tries they scored are good. They have almost the best setpiece attack from scrums and line-outs and they are very clinical,” Ludeke explained.

“They also keep the ball well. That is why field position is important and that’s why I thought against the Stormers we were a lot more accurate than all the games. We need to be in the right areas to convert it into points.

“Not just kicking but we need to start well. We were behind in the last two games and we used penalties to claw our way back. We need to be more patient about how we score tries, but hopefully we can get a great start this weekend and we can build on that."

When you consider wins alone may not be enough, the Bulls need to get a few bonus points along the way if they want to strengthen their bid. Friday night could well be a watershed game for them in this regard.

VODACOM BULLS: 15.Jurgen Visser, 14.Akona Ndungane, 13.JJ Engelbrecht, 12.Jan Serfontein, 11.Bjorn Basson, 10.Jacques-Louis Potgieter, 9.Francois Hougaard, 8.Grant Hatingh, 7.Jacques du Plessis, 6.Jono Ross, 5.Victor Matfield, 4.Flip van der Merwe (capt), 3.Werner Kruger, 2.Callie Visagie, 1.Dean Greyling.

Replacements: 16.Bongi Mbonambi, 17.Morne Mellet, 18.Marcel van der Merwe, 19.Paul Willemse, 20.Jacques Engelbrecht, 21.Piet van Zyl, 22.Handre Pollard, 23.Ulrich Beyers.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,295 posts
20 May 2014, 19:31
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20 May 2014, 19:31#2
The scrums seem to have improved for the Bulls lately. Werner Kruger must have been one of the worst bok selections ever, he looked way out of his depth
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 May 2014, 19:36
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20 May 2014, 19:36#3
 Sharkbok
I cannot understand that selection either.   A prop must also be effective outside of the scrum - and Van der Merwe was effective in both.    He had Matfield behind him and had to do the work of two people in scrumming.  I do think that this is a poor selection and the Bulls are not really going to  be successful in scrumming against the Brumbies.  Bad choice that one.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
20 May 2014, 20:49
#4
20 May 2014, 20:49#4
Yep that is just how stupid Ludeke is - not to mention dropping Pollard to the bench as well  
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
20 May 2014, 22:05
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20 May 2014, 22:05#5
 Its a rotational thing he says.
The most mindless thing is playing Matfield ahead of young Willemse who I wouldnt think needs abreak. Why the bulle short change themselves like this is weird. Matfield has some hold over Ludeke and Meyer.A locking combination of Flip and Willemse is world class.Marcell is obviously and improvem ent on Kruger but Potgieter is fine and gives away little to Pollard.
MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
20 May 2014, 22:47
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20 May 2014, 22:47#6
i like kruger, has a very high workrate.

one of the things i look out for the most in frontrow forwards is what they contribute around the park in the breakdowns, their effectiveness in those breakdowns, and the usual hit ups and tackle situations.

ive noticed when watching the bulls play that both kruger and greyling both get through a ton of work, more noticeable then anyone else from SA.

and good to see potgieter back in the backline.

players in the bulls have all been peaking at different times, if they can pull out those performances in a synergised bonanza, they would be lethal.

jacques du plessis would have to be the find of the year IMO, dont think that monster has played a bad game yet.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
21 May 2014, 17:00
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21 May 2014, 17:00#7

Disagree Sas.......Kruger is the weak link. Marcel v/d Merwe is far better in every respect and its good to see he has been rewarded with a Bok call up.

 

 

Agreed on du Plessis.......he and Faf de Klerk are the finds of the year. du Plessis was my tip last year a future Bok after seeing him play for the Baby Boks.

 

 

My guess is that centre Andre Esterhuizen will be this years Baby Bok star  

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 May 2014, 18:07
#8
21 May 2014, 18:07#8
That was after Werner was your tip for Bok tighthead Dave....how you have abandoned the lad.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,295 posts
21 May 2014, 18:19
#9
21 May 2014, 18:19#9
I dont think Kruger has a high work rate, or an effective work rate. He was a joke when he played for the Springboks. That was when Meyer started his tenure as bok coach and he was "maak die bulle almal bokke "
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 May 2014, 18:19
#10
21 May 2014, 18:19#10
To the dumb ass that thought van der Merwe had Matfield behind him and built a huge case based on that. Matfield scrums behind the loosehead prop, just as he always did with Bakkies. OOm you are a joke.  
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
21 May 2014, 18:20
#11
21 May 2014, 18:20#11
Moz you are becoming far too predictable.......I rated him in his early days, never as a Bok, but conceded years ago that I was wrong about him........move on Moz, this is all a little stale now.......much like Olivier at 12, Murray at 13  
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 May 2014, 18:32
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21 May 2014, 18:32#12
But I remember you berating me when I told you he was useless....turnaround is fair play as the Poms would say. Anyway, how about the dumb OOM telling us how great Marcel is because he is scrumming with the handicap of Victor behind him....when Victor was on the other side. A world class idiot.
MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
21 May 2014, 18:49
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21 May 2014, 18:49#13
krouger might have been useless for the Boks, but to be fair all the props that have played under meyer have been.

when i speak of kruger, i am talking only about his spXV form which IMO has been high, especially compared to other saffa props.

frontrwo for the Boks is pretty easy to pick,,,
1 beast, 2 bizzy, 3 c oosthuizen

16 a strauss, 17 d greyling, 18 f malherbe

i would have tevor nyakane in their too, rpovided he sorted that wayward attitude out, but then there wouldnt be enough cover on the bench for tighthead.
if trevor was able to cover tighthead, i would replace malherbe for him straight away.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 May 2014, 18:55
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21 May 2014, 18:55#14
 Sushi stick to opining on citrus cured tuna.
MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
21 May 2014, 19:14
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21 May 2014, 19:14#15
@mozter,

no can do, the saffa education system has let u and many others down in a big bad way only a very few of u managed to walk away unscathed.

as kiwi we are born with a PHD in rugby, and i feel it is my duty to help the less fortunate.

now now mozzie, let me wipe that tear from ur eye, u dont ever need thank me buddy, acting charitable is what im all about, -_o
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 May 2014, 19:21
#16
21 May 2014, 19:21#16
So no doubt you have a cogent explanation for the Sharks win....when the Saders  with a one to two man advantage, a rabid crowd and a bent set of refs on their side.....playing at home, er, shall we say ....lost? 
MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
21 May 2014, 19:49
#17
21 May 2014, 19:49#17
@mozter,

have already given my two rand worth on another thread about the game, but hey top effort sharks.

the chest beating seen here cos of that win is not surprising, only the 2nd saffa team ever to beat the crusaders at home, impressive in any language.

but similar things happened in the 7s world series, blitzboks won the south african and USA legs of the circut, and the number of saffas here beating thier chest was at an all time high, with talks about how NZ were fading.
fast forward to the hong kong 7s and every tournament afterwards, and 7s which was once a very popular topic when SA were winning, dosnet have one single saffa talking about it.

are saffas a nation of band wagon jumpers, only supporting winning teams and talking themselves up???

well lets look at the cricket trend, cricket was also all the rave here, but when australia showed up and monstered ur proteas in ur own back yard, and then the implosion during the 20/20 WC. the threads and chatter on all things cricket also went flatline.

the same thing will happen with the spXV, enjoy the sharks win over the crusaders, but come finals time, i bet u i will enjoy the crusaders or chiefs winning the spXV even more.

but all is not lost, once the Boks play the pumas u can start talking about this and that again or whatever it is that u do, but this rinse repeat cycle is only going to end  in one way, with the NZ r ugby empire on top and me LMAO as i watch u boys wipe that egg of face,
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 May 2014, 20:56
#18
21 May 2014, 20:56#18

Divert, obfuscate, denigrate....but don't elucidate.

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