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Dyantyi is toast......

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Aug 2019, 15:37
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30 Aug 2019, 15:37#1
Cape Town - Springbok and Lions wing Aphiwe Dyantyi has formally been charged with a doping offence after testing positive for "multiple anabolic steroids and metabolites". The South African Institute for Drug Free Sport (SAIDS) informed Dyantyi ON August 13, 2019 that an adverse analytical finding had been detected in a sample collected from him in a doping test on July 2, 2019. The test was conducted in accordance with the National Anti-Doping Regulations. Dyantyi, who was provisionally suspended in light of the finding, exercised his right to have his B-sample analysed. On Friday, SAIDS confirmed that the B-sample was tested at the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) accredited laboratory at the University of the Free State which confirmed the A-sample results of the presence of the banned substances: metandienone, methyltestosterone and LGD-4033. These performance-enhancing substances are on the 2019 List of Prohibited Substances and Methods in Sport, and are banned in- and out-of-competition. As a result, Dyantyi has now been formally charged with a doping offence for multiple anabolic steroids and metabolites. The charge has been communicated to SA Rugby, World Rugby and WADA. Moving forward, Dyantyi has the option of admitting to the charge and accepting an appropriate sanction based on the World Doping Code’s framework. Dyantyi may also submit a plea for consideration of a reduced sanction by providing mitigating circumstances. According to the SAIDS statement, Dyantyi has the right to contest the charge before an independent tribunal panel. If he disputes the charge and pleads not guilty, a hearing will be set down within the next four weeks, and he will be required to provide evidence that can prove his innocence. The independent tribunal panel will then adjudicate over the proceeding and hand down a decision. Dyantyi made his Springbok debut in June last year against England at Ellis Park and played his last Test against Wales in Cardiff on the end of year tour. Compiled by Garrin Lambley
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Aug 2019, 16:19
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30 Aug 2019, 16:19#2
Sports 24 reached out to world-renowned sport scientist Dr Ross Tucker on Twitter to for an explainer of the steroids in question as well as the process ahead. In a detailed 14-post explanation, Tucker confirmed: Let’s briefly talk about some background on #Dyantiand doping. A short thread. Specifcally, we are looking at metandienone, methyltestosterone and LGD-4033, which are the substances confirmed as found in his A & B samples, for which he’s now charged: First, let’s orientate ourselves about what we’re dealing with. All 3 those substances are in Class S1, in substances & methods prohibited at all times. S1 is anabolic agents, Testosterone, Stanozol, DHEA the most famous of them. I’ve highlighted in yellow the 3 in Dyanti’s case Anabolic agents (aka androgenic agents) are responsible for “building up". Muscle, especially. Androgenic = “male making”, so again, muscle growth & repair, improved recovery, greater strength gains when training, injury repair. Hence their placement on the banned list. Obviously, the question that must be answered is whether Dyanti doped or not? The presence of those substances means “yes”, though the likely rebuttal will be “I didn’t take them on purpose, this is ‘inadvertent doping’”, which is pretty much always to the go-to line To show inadvertent doping, player needs to show that he took a supplement that was contaminated with banned substances. But that’s only part of it. He also has to show that he took reasonable precautions to avoid inadvertent doping. That is, they can’t have been “reckless” “My bad, I didn’t realise”, or “I took something a company gave me as a sponsorship” is not valid, because the athlete is ultimately liable for what is in their body. A pro athlete pretty much has to always assume they’re an hour away from being tested, so must constantly ask... …”Is there a chance that this powder/pill/liquid contains banned drugs?”. And that puts the onus on them to research it, to get assurances from independent third-parties (the sport’s governing body, or quality assuring regulators) that they’re on safe ground, doping wise If the player hasn’t done this, then it doesn’t matter if it’s an accident or not, it’s as good as doping (otherwise they’d never be able to prove and sanction any doping offences!). So it *can* happen that athletes prove inadvertent doping, but the bar is (necessarily) high I don’t know what Dyanti will offer as explanation, now that he’s charged, but history shows that supplement contamination is the most common (LGD4033 may be familiar to some because of Shayna Jack’s case, in AUS swimming, remember? Same defence). This excuse is tough to prove This is especially true because the supplement industry is notoriously unregulated, especially here in SA, and so a player who takes a supplement WITHOUT doing the necessary checks is playing doping Russian Roulette with their careers. Best case is stupid negligence! Worst case is deliberate doping, but the system treats them similarly, unless those other steps are shown convincingly. On “deliberate doping”, rugby in SA has a high degree of ’suspicion’ - we know this from the prevalence of school positives. This is likely true globally And when you have a culture of “enhancement” plus easy access to drugs (in gyms), plus you’re drowning in unregulated supplements with aggressive marketing tactics, you have a formula for positive tests, both accidental & deliberate. Time will tell what this is put down to Sorry, have to add one point of emphasis. The onus really does lie with the athlete. They must assume a test is coming. So they HAVE to be able to answer “No” to a question “Is there a risk of doping?”. They have support structures to help assure this, so they’re not alone There are times when I feel sympathy for athletes, because sometimes it feels like they have to be a biochemist to navigate the WADA list! But they DO have 24hr access to doctors & people who can advise, and it’s THEIR job to use them. Inadvertent doping must be a high bar
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
30 Aug 2019, 17:51
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30 Aug 2019, 17:51#3
Yeah he is fucked!!
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
30 Aug 2019, 19:17
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30 Aug 2019, 19:17#4

Looks like Dyanti is in hot water. 

He probably thought he could do what wee abs do with impunity! 

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
30 Aug 2019, 19:18
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30 Aug 2019, 19:18#5

This is very disappointing to hear. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
30 Aug 2019, 20:14
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30 Aug 2019, 20:14#6

Indeed.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Aug 2019, 05:29
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31 Aug 2019, 05:29#7
What was great about this guy was what was going on upstairs. His vision and instant reactions. Did he need the drugs? That said, how can a modern sportsman assume it's all going to be undetected! Reckless and sad!
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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
31 Aug 2019, 07:16
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31 Aug 2019, 07:16#8

Looks like South African rugby forget to make their payments on time, better make sure you keep those payments up or else you wont have a single player to field.


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
31 Aug 2019, 08:38
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31 Aug 2019, 08:38#9

That's not funny Sader. Present your proof or shut up.

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
31 Aug 2019, 09:24
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31 Aug 2019, 09:24#10

Hahahaha got to love it, beenshit can throw any old load of shit around about Kiwi's and not a murmur from any of you, but throw some shit back and you get butt hurt.

Cant have it both ways


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moolaaPro2,380 posts
31 Aug 2019, 10:01
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31 Aug 2019, 10:01#11
Cloudy, the reason he looked dynamic and exciting is probably because he was cheating with performance enhancing drugs! Have these Japies no shame??
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
31 Aug 2019, 10:49
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31 Aug 2019, 10:49#12
I'm surprised so many people take so long to work Baboon-ou out.
Baboon-ou is a coward. A gutless weak-arsed and craven little coward who loves to dish it out and demands answers to his stupid questions but is too craven and lily-livered to answer any questions put to him.
Baboon-ou is also a liar. He not only makes up a lot of bullshit which he never substantiates but he also tells blatant, malicious lies.
As if that's not enough, Baboon-ou is also incredibly stupid. Probably the stupidest person I've ever encountered. Uneducated, simple-minded, ignorant, brainwashed and just plain stupid.
A cowardly, stupid liar. Not a great combination.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
31 Aug 2019, 11:11
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31 Aug 2019, 11:11#13

"Hahahaha got to love it, beenshit can throw any old load of shit around about Kiwi's and not a murmur from any of you, but throw some shit back and you get butt hurt.

Cant have it both ways"

I've called Beenz out on a few things over the years, but that's not the issue here. I'm not butt hurt. You baited and I took the bait, fine. I saw it for what it was before I responded. You seem to think that it's OK for you to slander a whole country because Beeno does it?  Hypocrisy? Irony?

Look who first started a thread on the Dyantyi doping topic. I don't shy away from difficult issues close to home, but I try not to throw sh!t...


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
31 Aug 2019, 11:14
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31 Aug 2019, 11:14#14

Nice rant Rooi...Beeno has you over the barrel....cat - laser pointer stuff. LOL!

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sharkbokCaptain23,234 posts
31 Aug 2019, 12:33
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31 Aug 2019, 12:33#15
Draad is Beeno's minion. Beeno says what Draad wants to say, but does not have the guts
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
31 Aug 2019, 14:43
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31 Aug 2019, 14:43#16

Bad company corrupts good morals. Remember oaks these SA players have tour down under and get exposed to kiwi drug cheats. 

As for the very cowardly and sniveling rooirat how about explaining how a universe came from nothing you bumbling blowhard! You always duck the challenge being the cowardly bigot you are. 

Yes indeed Draa d I am the puppet master and peeper is the puppet. 

Pity about Dyanti but if you follow rotton kiwi example it's sure not going to end well unless you are a kiwi. 

Otherwise go play rugby in nz where drug testing is virtually absent. 

Beeno straightening out the kbbs and their groveling stooge rooijackass the serial liar and perv.

Hahahahahahaha

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
31 Aug 2019, 14:49
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31 Aug 2019, 14:49#17

Snark, I say what I want to regardless how it looks. I see Beeno's posts for what they are...wind ups.

Clouds, I get what you are saying and I know exactly what it feels like, but it is no good silencing views we don't like or don't approve of. It's a pity that some of the Kiwis left, but some others are actually here specifically to troll Beenz....so in that regards, it's a good thing.

I also get upset at posters at times, but I can only blame myself for that...pity that some choose to get outa the kitchen.


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
31 Aug 2019, 20:00
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31 Aug 2019, 20:00#18

Cloudy read my post again. Instead of straigh tening your hair, straighten out the mess that's inside. 

Bwhahahahahahaha. 

Draad your suggestions are uncalled for

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
31 Aug 2019, 20:02
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31 Aug 2019, 20:02#19

Look this has always been a fairly robust board but not too bad really.

Snowflake kbbs probably find it a bit tough I guess

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BrycyPro4,671 posts
31 Aug 2019, 22:30
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31 Aug 2019, 22:30#20

You have to consider folks this could all be a set up by the WP mongs to discredit the Golden Lions.. WP mongs being jealous of the Golden Lions successes.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Sept 2019, 03:41
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01 Sept 2019, 03:41#21
HasBeen plays Peeper like a fiddle.
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
01 Sept 2019, 09:43
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01 Sept 2019, 09:43#22

Dyantyi is  ........ stupid, a numbnuts, a domdrol ..... ek vra jou mos,  how.tf. did he think that he could avoid censure in this day & age?

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
01 Sept 2019, 18:58
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01 Sept 2019, 18:58#23

Cloudy your lack of IQ is showing. 

I said it was the bad example of kiwis that lead Dyanti astray. 

Not that you kbbs actually physical doped the guy or something. 

Read my post and keep your straightened  hair on. You seem all in a froth again. 

That sniveling coward rooitwit after all his atheistic chest beatjng needs to man up and answer the question. Fancy you defending him again. Actually no surprise. 

Dr Moz yes. I play ou rooibozo like a fiddle but make that an old beat up fiddle missing a string or two! Hence the screeching whining tone of the old violen. 

Hahahahaha

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Sept 2019, 23:20
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01 Sept 2019, 23:20#24
Come now HasBeen....beating up on Peeper is no great shakes.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Sept 2019, 04:37
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02 Sept 2019, 04:37#25
No Cloudy.....Rooinek prefers trolling the Facebook accounts of other posters' kids.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Sept 2019, 05:01
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02 Sept 2019, 05:01#26
He's not defending you Cloudy, he's using that as a pretext to attack Beeno. I have been posting with this excuse for a human being for almost 20 years, there are no redeeming traits. In any case from my perspective you seem to hold your own against HasBeen without any difficulty.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Sept 2019, 05:24
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02 Sept 2019, 05:24#27
For the record......so did Beeno: Jul 09, 2019, 21:34 Yeh stay strong Cloudy hope your Dad makes strong and complete recovery. Need you back for the RWC. Somebody has to explain what went wrong. :D .......
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
02 Sept 2019, 08:31
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02 Sept 2019, 08:31#28

..."It's a pity that some of the Kiwis left...."

A couple of others left blaming the Jihadi for leaving, one named Mo(NH) and the other is Sharkie a SAFFA.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
02 Sept 2019, 10:08
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02 Sept 2019, 10:08#29

Dense the record will show I welcomed Sharkies warmly to the site. 

Things went pear shaped when he suddenly launched a bitter attack on yours truly. So no fake news about Sharkie.

As for Lady MO  (NH) I treated her well so really doubt she left because of me. She was in any event not a regular.

Dense why not get up a petition and ask Ed to remove me. Run along now you have something to do. 

As for Cloudy and the Muslims, if nz doesn't wake up they like the Western nations will become Caliphates. Cloudy is too ill informed to recognize the danger and thinks it's an act of hatred to issue the warning. More proof that she is a very confused person. 

The way she rises to the bait like the gullible fish she is, is truly hilarious.  

No I don't hate the kkbs  but do find them a curious bunch of weirdos, blissfully ignorant about so many things, as gullible as they come and totally brainwashed. Other than that a jolly bunch of devious operators. Hahahahahaha. 


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
02 Sept 2019, 10:27
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02 Sept 2019, 10:27#30

Okay so she left because she was an anti Biblical perv supporter. Didn't know the reason she left so thanks for the update. 

Now at least I know why you are supporting her ie because MO was anti Biblical like you. Birds of a feather. 

What back pedaling are you talking about? 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
02 Sept 2019, 10:33
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02 Sept 2019, 10:33#31

So I couldn't handle the fact BUT it was MO  who left. You really are a mixed up loon. Hahahahahaha. 

You might have noticed, the pervs, sharktwit, rooitwit, Saffex twit and datwit still post here. Seems they handle the debate better than poor MO (NH) Bwhahahahaha.

Go and join the LGBT movement Cloudy you know you want to!

It would though be better to to lay aside your prejudices and accept God's Word about homosexuality but somehow I doubt you will. 

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
02 Sept 2019, 10:44
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02 Sept 2019, 10:44#32

"Dense the record will show I welcomed Sharkies warmly to the site."

A blatant lie, Sharkie left because of you and said so right here on this very forum.

There's a bit of history attached to him coming back and it had everything to do with me convincing him that you were a changed person. How dumb and wrong was I. He left after telling me off, accusing me of conning him into believing that you were a changed person. Sharkie and I  have never spoken again.

Cloudy is perfectly correct, Mo left after you insulted her, a lady in the true sense of the word, totally harmless, said she wouldn't be back unless you apologized. That of course will never happen.

How many more examples do you need before it penetrates your thick skin that people are sick and tired of your lunatic rantings, insults and general demeanor?

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
02 Sept 2019, 10:57
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02 Sept 2019, 10:57#33

No it appears she left because she couldn't stomach me having an opinion. I am still here she is not.

In addition, I am still here dispite some pervs like you here disagreeing with me. So are the pervs still here.

So far the only person not being capable of handling another's point of view based on God's Word is MO(NH)

Are you getting a glimmer how daft you are?

 Next we see how one eyed you are. How about the insults that come my way. Especially from that "sniveling coward"  and anti God atheist rooibozo your big friend. 

Running for the Hills BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA hilarious stuff from the unhinged weirdo Cloudy. You must be joking! 

No as much as you might be hoping these pervs will never change my mind on LGBT. My views are based on the very solid foundation of God's Word. There can only be one winner and its not going to be your LGBT friends. 


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
02 Sept 2019, 11:02
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02 Sept 2019, 11:02#34

Have you thought about her disagreeing with me. 

No perves need to be called out. Our children need protecting from these predators. But seeing the abortion of 63 million children got next to no response from you why would the mere molestation of children matter hey Cloudy. 

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
02 Sept 2019, 11:04
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02 Sept 2019, 11:04#35

Correct once again Cloudy. He titled her Lady Mo, not only on this site but on every other site that she shared with us. Tell you another thing, I've met Mo, had the pleasure of having lunch with her and her hubbie and she is a lady in the true sense of the word, was kind enough to invite Jake White around who happens to be a personal friend so that he could meet me while I was on a holiday in Cape Town. She had no need to to do it and it is a fine example of the type of person she is.

It only took one disagreement with the Jihadi for him to turn rabid on her.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
02 Sept 2019, 11:08
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02 Sept 2019, 11:08#36

Political BS. So are you saying the LGBT and the drag Queens are not going after the children or that around 63 million children have been aborted since Roe  versus Wade? Please tell me you aren't that ill informed!!!!!

That in the USA only. 

Astonishing stuff from the very weird Cloudy!


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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
02 Sept 2019, 11:08
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02 Sept 2019, 11:08#37
If he has a millimeter of Christianity in him then I am Jesus Christ. 
Disgusting.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
02 Sept 2019, 11:10
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02 Sept 2019, 11:10#38

Dense Denise what exactly is disgustingfrom your upside down perspective? 

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
02 Sept 2019, 11:15
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02 Sept 2019, 11:15#39

How on earth is this forum going to grow while the Jihadi pisses them off? All it takes is one disagreement. Wardad is another who left because of him. He is also well aware of how quickly this forum grew in membership largely because of my efforts, I stopped doing it after I realised that it was a wasted effort.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
02 Sept 2019, 11:16
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02 Sept 2019, 11:16#40

Oh cry me a river Cloudy.  Your  nonsense is made clear by your own insults and by the insults of your atheist cohorts. 

As for your truly I think these twits need taking to task. Now what do we have, a whole lot of tears and ehini g because Beeno fires back. 

Hahahahaha next these snowflakes will be asking for a safe space. 

Your reaction is so typical of the absurd left. Anybody takes them on they cry like girls. They love to dish it out but cry like babies if it comes back.

Hilarious stuff from the wimps!!! 

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