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Emerging Nation For 2027 World Cup?

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
21 Sept 2018, 04:42
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21 Sept 2018, 04:42#1

WORLD Rugby Chairman Bill Beaumont suggested Thursday the World Cup could be held in non-traditional rugby nations following France in 2023, as he hailed the game’s growing popularity in Asia due to Japan’s hosting of the tournament next year.

The comments will likely send a shiver down the backs of Rugby Australia, who last December stated that they would bid to host the 2027 World Cup.

With exactly 12 months to go until the battle for the Webb Ellis trophy kicks off in Tokyo, Beaumont also predicted one of the most competitive and unpredictable tournaments yet, tipping free-flowing Fiji as a dark horse team to watch.

“World Rugby will have to have a philosophical debate going forward” over where future World Cups should be held, Beaumont told reporters at an event to mark the year-to-go celebrations.

“It’s important that we are commercially successful but we do need to have that debate whether the next World Cup following France will go to an emerging country or an established country that actually needs a bit of help as well,” he added.

“Do you say to Argentina, do you say to Ireland, Canada, the USA, these are countries we’re going to because actually strategically, that is going to make the biggest difference in that area?”

Beaumont said the decision had been taken to award the World Cup to Japan -- far from a traditional rugby stronghold -- because of the “huge growth potential” in Asia.

Asian rugby officials aim to get one million more people playing the game and they are nearly 90 per cent of the way to achieving that, he said.

“In fact, there are over 200,000 more rugby players here in Japan than there were two or three years ago, which is a huge achievement,” said the former England captain.

On the pitch, smaller rugby countries are closing the gap with traditional giants New Zealand, Australia, France and the home nations, and Beaumont predicted next year’s tournament would be very tight.

He said that “none of the so-called fancied teams will want to play against Fiji” who have twice upset the odds to reach the quarter-finals in rugby’s showcase event.

Fiji kick off their campaign on September 21 against Australia, who have endured a torrid time in the Rugby Championship, losing to Argentina last week for the first time on home turf in 35 years.

“Last World Cup they (Fiji) had a very tough group,” said World Rugby Vice-Chairman and former Pumas captain Agustin Pichot.

“This time, if they get their act together, they could really get to the quarter-finals or even go further.”

Beaumont noted that the mighty All Blacks — the World Cup winners in 2011 and 2015 — had shown a crack in their armour, losing 36-34 last week to South Africa.

“You are seeing England in a bit of a decline,” Beaumont said.

“What are they gong to be like?

“New Zealand lose a game, everyone goes ‘wow.’

“Argentina are coming back strongly.

“Ireland and Wales look very strong. South Africa look strong.

“The actual competition itself will be really good, really tight in all the games and it should be an outstanding spectacle to showcase our game.”

The shock defeat of New Zealand to the Springboks has given other teams some hope that the all-conquering All Blacks can be beaten.

The World Cup kicks off on September 20, with hosts Japan taking on Russia in Tokyo, hoping to emulate their heroics of four years ago when they shocked South Africa.

“We don’t know yet how the Japanese team is going to go but being local, having that home advantage, they will be serious contenders to do something special,” Pichot said.

“They show up for big tournaments.”

by Foxsports.com.au


It would be nice if these emerging nations weren't hamstrung by a ridiculous schedule. The past two Word Cups in particular have detailed less fancied teams who were playing great rugby. Think Samoa vs Wales in 2011 and Japan vs the USA in 2015. 

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WardadPro6,663 posts
21 Sept 2018, 04:49
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21 Sept 2018, 04:49#2

Giving the RWC to any home nations sides is the same as giving it to GB seeing as how the games are dispersed through the British Isles.

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
21 Sept 2018, 04:55
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21 Sept 2018, 04:55#3

I hated that, it happened in 2003 and 2011 as well. Australia and New Zealand got to play games on home soil. It makes a mockery of their being a "host nation". 

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generaltitPro3,164 posts
21 Sept 2018, 07:00
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21 Sept 2018, 07:00#4

I fully support what Bill Beaumont is saying...if you want to grow rugby as a game you have to expose it meaningfully to emerging and countries where it gets so little support and exposure...if true lovers of the game want what's best for the game overall and are unselfish enough to share it with others then it should be made top priority...it's the bigger picture instead of having our own insular vision.

IRB is doing some but it is certainly not enough...if the Board is really serious about it's ideals then more action should be prioritised instead of lining their pockets like the soccers Fifa.

Some of the smaller rugby unions come from huge countries as well as small ones, Russia, India and China...not too worried about USA as I see activity here...so overall there's great potential.

I see no benefit in just looking after the top 10 only but reaching out deeper...some of you will amazed at small Georgia's growth...they'll topple a tier 1 rugby nation soon...could be the next WC, it's that close.


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WardadPro6,663 posts
21 Sept 2018, 07:07
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21 Sept 2018, 07:07#5

2003 and 2011 none of the games were shared around and being "host" nations meant having to play on home soil like when SA was host nation playing at home .

I dont see your point ?

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Sept 2018, 07:41
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21 Sept 2018, 07:41#6

There is one problem in rugby in countries like China, Russia and Brazil and that is that the game remains amateur in those countries.  Unlike Japan there is a serious deficiency in professional rugby and that cause the game to be sidelined to the fringes.

Once the Chinese, Russians and Brazilians  start to get professional  rugby going - and that is likely within the next 10 years - the scenario as to world rugby strength and competitiveness  will change drastically.       

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generaltitPro3,164 posts
21 Sept 2018, 07:44
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21 Sept 2018, 07:44#7

Yes, AO I don't understand what you are saying there although I agree with your major point.

Also : "The World Cup kicks off on September 20, with hosts Japan taking on Russia in Tokyo, hoping to emulate their heroics of four years ago when they shocked South Africa."

That won't happen believe me...Russia is just not good enough at this stage, besides Japan is going to upset a few possibly of the bigger scalps, I surmise.

Russia only just qualified by some controversy in I think the Romania/Belgium game...a manipulation of referees (which disqualified) the playoffs or something like that. Georgia and Russia/ Romania used to dominate the ENC 1 playoffs but Georgia now completely dominates, in fact due to their success in last WC were automatic qualifiers and replaced Samoa who had to come through the "back door" to qualify. A couple years back, Samoa, they were not "cannon fodder" indeed they were regarded as possible "upset-spoilers" and were respected by all sides in the pool stages...but thanks to Georgia had to do it the long way.

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
21 Sept 2018, 11:36
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21 Sept 2018, 11:36#8

My mistake, I though Australia and New Zealand got to hop over the pond and play in their own countries like Wales and Scotland. 

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