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England's Chris Robshaw eyes All Blacks scalp; by DUNCAN JOHNSTONE

Started by Just_win10 REPLIES149 VIEWS· 30 Sept 2014, 09:16
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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
30 Sept 2014, 09:16
#1
30 Sept 2014, 09:16#1

England captain Chris Robshaw is demanding his team turn Twickenham into a fortress ahead of the World Cup, starting with beating the All Blacks on November 8.

A year out from hosting the next tournament, Robshaw wants to see the London headquarters become a feared environment for opposition.

England face a demanding month there against some southern hemisphere heavyweights in November that Robshaw wants turned into a positive.

England host the All Blacks, Springboks, Samoa and Wallabies on successive weekends.

It's got the feel of a World Cup playoffs schedule and the English skipper sees it as an ideal litmus test for the cup which England host for the second time after losing the 1991 final to Australia there.

"We have also come close to getting some big scalps. Now we need to put some markers down. We are playing the big boys in Twickenham in November. They want to put some markers down, too. But it is important that we can make them think, come the World Cup, that the last time we played, we beat them," Robshaw told the Daily Mail newspaper as the tournament's momentum continues to build there.

England are still smarting after being whitewashed by the All Blacks in New Zealand in June. They went very close in the first two tests in Auckland and Dunedin before the All Blacks buried them in Hamilton.

"Richie McCaw said at his post-match dinner that it comes down to a few key moments. And that is exactly it," Robshaw said.

"If we can beat them, turn Twickenham into a fortress and get the team behind us, then who knows?"

Robshaw, a hard-nosed flanker, has found himself the centre of some unwanted attention as the English club scene has got under way.

He was relieved of the Harlequins captaincy, a move that drew criticism from respected English rugby figures like Sir Clive Woodward and Lawrence Dallaglio who felt he should be keeping his leadership skills tuned with his club side.

Robshaw has played that down, saying the move was made in consultation with Harlequins coach Conor O'Shea and England coach Stuart Lancaster who see benefits.

Robshaw has led England in 27 tests - a figure only bettered by Martin Johnson (39) and Will carling (59) - and believes the new arrangement can benefit the national team, keeping him fresh for test duties.
"There are other international captains who do not captain their clubs as well - Richie McCaw, Sam Warburton, Paul O'Connell. It takes some pressure off me. You can think about what you are doing more," Robshaw explained to the Daily Mail.

"The best example was having to go straight back in as club captain after we had that heavy defeat to Wales in the Six Nations in the tournament before last. It was the biggest and hardest defeat of my life and I was the one who has to get the training standards up and get them all going.

"It is for that reason - to help me get in the best possible mental state that Stuart and Conor and I came to the decision. I don't have to get 35 guys motivated every day.

"It should get me right for the World Cup and that is the most important thing. We are cracking on."

Playing England at Twickenham has been one of the All Blacks' more uncomfortable assignments since the World Cups were introduced in 1987.

In that time the All Blacks have notched up eight wins, three losses and a draw.

England remain the only black mark on Steve Hansen's time in charge, beating the All Blacks 38-21 in late 2012 - just the sort of performance Robshaw is now urging his team to repeat.

- Stuff

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
30 Sept 2014, 09:20
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30 Sept 2014, 09:20#2
England know if they can get the ABs after a long campaign when they are tired, carrying injuries & ready to go home for some good kiwi tucker they have a chance to beat them. After all they have done it once before (1 win from 2011-2014)
BE
becsPro4,378 posts
30 Sept 2014, 13:27
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30 Sept 2014, 13:27#3
 I think that, what they are saying is the usual bluster but, it is important to get some belief that we can win the big matches and we have to start doing that now.It is not disrespectful to say we would like to ! Also, it is imperative we start winning going into the RWC year....but, I have said all along, I feel this RWC is one too soon for Lancaster. I hope I am wrong ! I just think things were in such a mess when he took over that he has had such little time to put things right...he has done so well. To me it might be a step too far.The chaps coming up through the ranks, and the systems he has put in place, are certainly making the future look bright, but it is the injury issues and uncertainties around the first team that bothers me still.They have the talent. They just need to get the guys fit and all on the field in the correct positions on the same day ! Then the confidence will come through, I think. 
As for removing Robshaw's Captaincy, I don't think that was a good idea. I don't think it is helping Marler or Harlequins......
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
30 Sept 2014, 14:06
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30 Sept 2014, 14:06#4
 I dunno about "Fortress " more motte and bailey .Eden Park now theres yer Fortress !
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
30 Sept 2014, 14:47
#5
30 Sept 2014, 14:47#5
The Springboks have turned Twickenham into a nursery Garden. Not sure how they plan to turn it into a Fortress  
BE
becsPro4,378 posts
30 Sept 2014, 15:00
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30 Sept 2014, 15:00#6
 They really haven't, Sharkbok.
I think people shouldn't be rude or disparaging about anyone, ever. 


We will play each other in a few weeks and see what happens.I am not looking forward to it, never do, but I am certainly not rude about opponents nor do I crow if we win. And we do win.
BE
becsPro4,378 posts
30 Sept 2014, 16:33
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30 Sept 2014, 16:33#7
 We've now lost Alex Corbisiero again, this time until at least early 2015.
He's damaged his shoulder and had to have an op.
MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
30 Sept 2014, 17:44
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30 Sept 2014, 17:44#8
All Blacks need to be careful with the england tests, as we will just be returning from the good ol US of A after our historic test with the yanks.

travel wont be an issue, but england at twiceknham are a lot like the Boksuckers in SA, very difficult to contain.

we should still win IMO for we are clearly the better team, but i would like hansen to send the following players straight to england while the rest of the All Blacks go to USA to optimis e our chances

owen franks
brodie retallick
keirean read
aaron smith
aaron cruden
conrad smith
julian savea
ben smith

will viber hansen right now and let him know what i think.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
30 Sept 2014, 23:45
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30 Sept 2014, 23:45#9
 England can dream on. Right now the AB's rule comfortably
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
01 Oct 2014, 00:17
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01 Oct 2014, 00:17#10
 Becs, I think England will be tough in the RWC & as many have said it is a tournament & one of several teams could win it.
BE
becsPro4,378 posts
01 Oct 2014, 00:49
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01 Oct 2014, 00:49#11
 I think it is going to be tough, unlike certain people who think we are totally hopeless. 
Obviously, I woukd dearly love us to do well in the RWC, bug I think that I am hoping for longer term success really. Putting things in place and maintaining a standard is really something I am hoping to see from Lancaster's tenure. 
This Autumn will be very tough indeed. 
I am not looking forward to it ! 
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