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English clubs to snub Heineken Cup

Started by Just_win5 REPLIES144 VIEWS· 07 Dec 2013, 22:18
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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
07 Dec 2013, 22:18
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07 Dec 2013, 22:18#1

England face the alarming prospect of entering the 2015 Rugby World Cup without players battle-hardened by European competition after their clubs announced they would be missing from next season’s Heineken Cup.

Premiership Rugby declared on Thursday night it is “pursuing other options” after owners and chief executives from all 12 top-flight teams confirmed they will not be involved in European competition.

In a repeat of 1998-99, the decision leaves England’s clubs isolated from the rest of Europe from next season.

Premier Rugby chief executive Mark McCafferty refused to detail the “other options”, but an expanded Premiership that includes Championship or Welsh sides or a competition involving South Africa provinces are possibilities.

The development will be viewed by England head coach Stuart Lancaster as the worst-case scenario, as it is inconceivable that any replacement will match the intensity of the Heineken Cup just months before the sport’s global showpiece begins.

The absence of European activity from the fixture list leaves nine weekends to fill and the race is now on to occupy those slots with meaningful action.

McCafferty insists the Premiership clubs, armed with their lucrative broadcasting deal with BT Sport, are seeking a permanent rather than stop-gap solution.

“The clubs are financially in a better position next season than they are for the 2013-14 season because of our domestic TV deal and other uplifts in revenue we have in place,” McCafferty said.

“Financially 2014-15 has never been an issue. The clubs don’t have to focus on short-term solutions, they want a solution for the longer term.

“We have a busy six or seven weeks ahead of us and we’ll probably call the clubs back in mid-January to take the next phase of decisions.”

Owners and chief executives from all 12 clubs met in central London on Thursday to discuss the decision by their French counterparts to abandon the breakaway Rugby Champions Cup.

Under pressure from its union, Ligue Nationale de Rugby – representing the Top 14 – last week committed to the ERC-run format announced by the unions for the 2014-15 season.

Beyond 2014-15, however, LNR is seeking the introduction of an alternative competition overseen by a new body that will maximise the commercial interests of its clubs.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
07 Dec 2013, 22:21
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07 Dec 2013, 22:21#2
England's preparation for the RWC, have they hit a hitch?
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Dec 2013, 00:44
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08 Dec 2013, 00:44#3

Just_win 


I did not notice that you started a thread on this issue so I will replicate what I wrote there:-


I am not talking cricket here - they were disgustingly poor in any event - it is the Heineken Cup I am referring to.


After much backroom negotiations it was announced that the English and French clubs will withdraw from the Heineken Cup competition next year and that other clubs have been invited to join them - some actually did.


However, they could not get the blessing of the national rugby authorities of England and France - but carried on regardless.  


The real problem came when the French clubs found out that the English clubs want to lay down rules that would be contrary to their interests and the French then slipped  quietly out of the agreement to leave the Heineken Cup the question now is what are they going to do insofar as European competition next year is concerned." 


England will no doubt try and get SA CC teams to compete, but the financial awards will have to be massive.   In any event I think the SA domestic competitions already are heavy for players on the various levels and to fit in further matches will be hard.   Doubt whether the English Clubs would find anything locally to help them out.   

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
08 Dec 2013, 02:07
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08 Dec 2013, 02:07#4
Clevermike: no harm done & not too many people are interested in this topic. It is one of those stories which we have to see how it turns out. They will replace the Heineken Cup.with something though.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Dec 2013, 02:22
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08 Dec 2013, 02:22#5

Not what will suit the English Clubs on their own.   They wanted to control the Euro competition and prescribe their own conditions for participation - the French went along until they found out they were going to suck the hind tit.


The lucrative TV deal the English clubs negotiated may also fall by the wayside without Euro competitions - so they will probably end up without the money as well.     

MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
08 Dec 2013, 10:39
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08 Dec 2013, 10:39#6
englands biggest leverage was the french, with them having the same views/ideas, they were a much stronger force, but now,,,

IMO the english clubs will eventually return back to the current format, SA is a major potential ally to help them out in starting a new competition, but they wont be free to do so until spXV.

but if they scrapped the vodacom cup and sent those teams to mingle with england, who knows.

cant help but think that none of this is good for english rugby as a whole, especially with the RWC around the corner.
there is also the potential backlash of the top english players leaving the english clubs looking to play top level rugby, either in the heinken cup minus english clubs, or even spXV like haskell did a year ago.
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