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Started by Saffolk 19 REPLIES988 VIEWS· 09 Oct 2018, 21:40
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SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
09 Oct 2018, 21:40
#1
09 Oct 2018, 21:40#1
Rassie needs to beg for the services of Willie and Faf My squad would be: 15. Willie / Gelant 14/11. Nkosi / Dyantyi / Ismeil / Combrink / Skosan 13/12. Kriel / Serfontein / de Allende / Am / Janse v Rensburg / Vorster 10. Pollard / Jantjies / Willemse 9. Faf / Reinach / v Zyl 1. Kitshoff / Kebble / Pierre Schoeman 2. Marx / Aker / Mbonambi 3. Louw / du Toit / Malherbe 4/5. Paul Willemse / Etzebeth / PSDT / Lood / Snyman / Jenkins 6. Kolisi / Jaco Kriel / Kwagga 7. JL du Preez / Jacques du Plessis 8. Marcel Coetzee / Dan du Preez / Notshe
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
09 Oct 2018, 22:10
#2
09 Oct 2018, 22:10#2
Only 42 this time? What happened to the other 78?
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
09 Oct 2018, 22:16
#3
09 Oct 2018, 22:16#3
This table is easier to read.
Position Player Squad Members       15 Willie / Gelant  2       14/11.  Nkosi / Dyantyi / Ismeil / Combrink / Skosan  5       13/12.  Kriel / Serfontein / de Allende / Am / Janse v Rensburg / Vorster  7       10 Pollard / Jantjies / Willemse  3       9 Faf / Reinach / v Zyl  3       1 Kitshoff / Kebble / Pierre Schoeman  3       2 Marx / Aker / Mbonambi  3       3 Louw / du Toit / Malherbe  3       4/5 Paul Willemse / Etzebeth / PSDT / Lood / Snyman / Jenkins  6       6/7/8  Kolisi / Jaco Kriel / Kwagga 7. JL du Preez / Jacques du Plessis 5       8 Marcel Coetzee / Dan du Preez / Notshe 3         TOTAL 43
AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
09 Oct 2018, 22:17
#4
09 Oct 2018, 22:17#4

Test centres: André, Serfontein, Am, Kriel. Assuming that Am is fit. 

Lood is not a test lock. 

I'm undecided about Wilco and du Toit. 

Kwagga was very poor against Wales. Geplant was okay. 

Jean-Luc must be in the side. His brunt will be needed. 

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
09 Oct 2018, 22:37
#5
09 Oct 2018, 22:37#5

I have made some updates (corrections), including narrowing the squad down. I think 33 is the max squad members.  Also factoring their needs to be more African representation, not just colour.


Position Player Squad Members       15 Willie / Gelant  2       14/11.  Nkosi / Dyantyi / Ismeil Combrink / Skosan, Mampimpi, Kolbe 4       13/12.  Kriel / Serfontein / de Allende / Am / Janse v Rensburg / Vorster  4       10 Pollard / Jantjies / Willemse  3       9 Faf Groom, Papier v Zyl, Hougaard, / Reinach /  3       1 Kitshoff / Beast, Nyakani  Kebble / Pierre Schoeman  3       2 Marx / Mbonambi /Acker / 3       3  Malherbe /Louw /Coenie du Toit / 3       4/5 Etzebeth / PSDT / Lood / Snyman /Mostert, Jenkins, Paul Willemse /  4       6/7/  Kolisi / PSDT, Jaco Kriel / Kwagga 7. JL du Preez / Jacques du Plessis 5       8 Vermeulen / Marcel Coetzee / Whitely Dan du Preez / Notshe 3         TOTAL 37
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
09 Oct 2018, 22:58
#6
09 Oct 2018, 22:58#6
Pathetic Vlag still here - why not make a contribution instead of banging on about numbers you stupid prick. Shark I never had Hougaard in my squad and I disagree will all your changes especially retaining PSDT at 7 and bring back average Whitely
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Oct 2018, 22:59
#7
09 Oct 2018, 22:59#7
Whiteley is average but Notshe is worthy....unbelievable.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
09 Oct 2018, 23:01
#8
09 Oct 2018, 23:01#8
Notshe is better than Whitely and only a bench option. Great athlete with good speed and skill but like Whitely he is not physical enough for a test starter
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Oct 2018, 23:13
#9
09 Oct 2018, 23:13#9
I agree with all Sharks strikes....but for Willemse and Rohan, both of whom could be awesome if on form....in addition I would strike Jaco Kriel and Kwagga, who are too small for NH rugby.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
10 Oct 2018, 00:17
#10
10 Oct 2018, 00:17#10
One thing about the Alister Coetzee era, is that it confirmed beyond any reasonable doubt that Hougaard is not a scrumhalf. Most of this knew this by the 2014 EOYT, but when he played under Alister Coetzee he was beyond terrible. 
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
10 Oct 2018, 03:15
#11
10 Oct 2018, 03:15#11

"Pathetic Vlag still here - why not make a contribution instead of banging on about numbers you stupid prick."

That's a good question Dave, all he does is snipe, attempting to look clever.......seldom contributes or makes a leading post. You're not the first and only one to pick up on the Bigot's antics, Mike noted it a while ago. 

You've left out Mampimpi...any particular reason why?


DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
10 Oct 2018, 03:42
#12
10 Oct 2018, 03:42#12

Faf aside we look bog ordinary at scrumhalf and I'd be looking for some grunt with the Du Preez brothers as loosies. I'm not too convinced about our centres, they look six of one half dozen of the other with no knockout in the current crop. Hard working  Whiteley and Mostert don't cut the mustard. Kriel would be my first choice outside centre. Kwagga is a talented and a tireless worker but is his size not a problem? Think we're well served in our tight five but I'd like to see more of RG Snyman to form an opinion.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Oct 2018, 04:09
#13
10 Oct 2018, 04:09#13
Not sure why the du Preez twins keep coming up....JL du Preez against England was a total nothing....4 tackles and 3 metres gained in 8 runs. Mostert made 16 tackles. Dan du Preez aginst Wales 2 runs for 7 metres....5 tackles made, 2 missed. For several years we have heard how these clunkers are the future of Bok rugby....I must have missed the movie. I agree that Snyman is a bit of an enigma. He was pretty poor in those last few minutes....throwing a speculative offload which could have gone either way and not cleaning out very convincingly. I was this guy's original supporter on the Board, but I'm beginning to lose altitude.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Oct 2018, 07:15
#14
10 Oct 2018, 07:15#14

Dave

I do  not think Gelant will make it back - he has a pace deficiency at full back,   I would rather have Combrinck, Marais or even Bosch than him.  The better option as back up full back may be Kolbe - he is too small to be at wing

I would rather have Mapimpi than Ismaiel in the squad

I think Jantjies many failures on test level is a negative o he may be on his way out.

At 8 I have may doubt whether Vermeulen would make it through to the WC - but would leave him in the squad.  I would rather add Augustus at 8  to the squad.   He is anytime better than the Du Preez twins.   By the way last I heard is that Coetzee is injured again.   What is going on there.   

Have doubts about the locks as well - would rather have Schickerling than Mostert, Snyman or  Jenkins,

Was disappointed with Louw as prop in both the SR series and in tests,  His scrumming was not good enough and outside of scrumming he was a dead loss.   As to Schoeman he has a serious discipline problem - love to collect yellow cards in particular.  Understand he has been banned for his latest escapade  in Europe.

I am not sure what Erasmus will come up with.   He may do some experimenting with the English test - as the NH club players will not be available.

He is likely to play Du Toit at 7 and not at lock - since we have an over-supply at lock and his likely selection at lock will be Etzebeth and De Jager, with Schickerling or Snyman as back-up.  

I think we have very little as back-up at openside flank.   

How is Reinach doing playing in England?   Not sure  but the site  idiots wants Pienaar despite his retirement from test rugby.  We do not need a re-incarnation of Meyer back in selection of has-beens and never-has-beens, but unfortunately we still have the same age maniacs around.   Their ideal player selections are 33 years and older.

All-in-all I would support the following selections:-

Full back   =   Le Roux, Kolbe, Marais

Wings        =   Dyantyi, Mapimpi, Nkosi, Combrinck

Centers      =    De Allende, Kriel, Serfontein

Flyhalfs      =   Pollard, Willemse

Scrummies =   De Klerk, Reinach, Papier, Van Zyl

No 8           =    Vermeulen(?), Whiteley (?), Augustus

Flanks        =     Du Toit, Van Dyk, Brink, J-L du Preez. Kolisi, Labuschagne, Notshe

Locks         =    Etzebeth, De Jager, Schickerling

Props          =    ??????

Hookers - as given.

I put question remarks behind the names of Vermeulen because of a variety of reasons and Whiteley has a recurring groin problem. 

      

  


AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
10 Oct 2018, 11:49
#15
10 Oct 2018, 11:49#15

My ideal selections are over 33 years? Name one. 

Our best wings are Mapimpi and Dyantyi. Nkosi is next in line. 

Reinach is a never-has-been. Our stock of 9s aren't great but Van Zyl has the basic skills one would expect a 9 to have, and a better kicking game than Faf. In the NH that will be important. Papier is another runner who can't control a game.

Gelant has pace issues, but you are fine with Combrinck? That makes no sense. Combrinck is a good player, but pace is not one of his strengths.

Not having André in the squad at all is very shortsighted. Rewarding Damian for producing nothing is almost wore. We need Am back in the fold as soon as possible. He was supposed to be ready for the England test. 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Oct 2018, 12:13
#16
10 Oct 2018, 12:13#16

Louw and Beast

AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
10 Oct 2018, 12:17
#17
10 Oct 2018, 12:17#17

Who did I choose as my starting loose head? Kitshoff. I said Louw would have to fight his way back into the team. 

So much for only backing older players. You are a laugh a second. 

WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
10 Oct 2018, 12:33
#18
10 Oct 2018, 12:33#18

Disgraceful that the slimy NH clubs wont be releasing players for the England vs Boks test ,I suppose England need all the help they can get eh ?

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
10 Oct 2018, 22:46
#19
10 Oct 2018, 22:46#19
Becs is not good at all, she is struggling with life which is both worrying and very sad
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Oct 2018, 12:14
#20
11 Oct 2018, 12:14#20

May the Lord help becs in her struggles.

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