sharkbok
Captain23,297 posts
sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
01 Oct 2013, 02:32#2
Test matches are not about developing talent for tomorrow, but winning today with the best talent that is available.
Your starting team is too green and would most likely get beat, especially against the likes of France- and this would tarnish the Springbok record.
Combinations take time to develop, as well as players time to get international experience.
It would be better to have the old fashioned tours where the Dirt Trackers played the mid- week games. This would allow all the young players to get into the squad and get used to the game plan and systems.
The ones that they stand out get onto the bench for the test matches, or if exceptional get the starting test position from the incumbent.
Giving test caps away like Candyfloss would just strengthen the CV's of 3rd or 4th choice players - and given them more incentive to leave overseas.
Kolisi has had some good games against weaker opposition but was poor when he came on last week against Australia.
The likes of Steph Du-Toit and Malherbe should be starting on the overseas tour. Others like de Allende should get blooded in as well. However Dejong although a decent player is more of a quota selection.
Jantjies needs to prove that he can play at SuperXV level again, before even remotely being included on this tour. He is young - so what- next year a new younger player will hit the scene that is better.
CJ standers wants to play for Ireland, so let him be.
SASaffolk
Captain30,741 posts
SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Oct 2013, 02:41#3
Well, SP Marais is better than Kirchner.
Habana would be a loss to a certain extent
Serfontein for Jean would be no loss in clout at 12
Lambie would be an improvement on Morne
v/Zyl is not du Preez, but du Preez is not available. v/Zyl is better than Pienaar
Nkanyane and Kitshoff are up there with Beast, who lets face it appears to be past his best........same can be said of Jannie......where Coenie and Malherbe would provide more clout.
Steph du Toit is a vast improvement on Flip and Kruger
Louw has not set the world alight at 6, Kolisi would provide more visible input
Elstadt is a younger Alberts who does not go awol at times.
CJ Stander is on record saying he would play for the Boks if Meyer gave him the call. He is our best looseforward
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Oct 2013, 02:46#4
And when we lose and with that squad we'd be killed , you would be complaining about Meyer's win/loss record Dave. Hell you dont even pick Strauss and we have Rhule, Coetzee, Kolisi, Jantjies. Madness.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Oct 2013, 02:59#6
Nope that side is an improvement on Meyers side bar Habana, Jean, Beast and Vermeulen at a push...........but Serfontein is as good if not better than Jean, Kitshoff and Nkanyane are up there with Beast these days and CJ Stander is better than Vermeulen. I'm resting Strauss, I have Bismark on board as he has missed most of the year.
I'm not starting Rhule, Coetzee or Jantjies, they are in the squad. Jantjies is better than Morne. Coetzee is better than Alberts, who lets face it has had very few moments this year.
Starting Kolisi ahead of Louw would be an improvement. Louw has not had one stand out test all year.
The test is this weekend, if we dont beat the Kiwi's at home with Meyers side then I rest my case.............my Bok side would not contain Kirchner, Jean, Morne, Jannie, Kruger, Louw and Alberts
SASaffolk
Captain30,741 posts
SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Oct 2013, 03:01#7
Mike what part of resting the older players do you not get. I'd be resting Strauss.
Zeilinga better than Jantjies.......bwhaahaaaaa
MDMonkey D Luffy
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MDMonkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
01 Oct 2013, 04:04#9
benefits of having vetereans in the team is that they can pass on some of their first hand knowledge onto the younger members of the team.
@saffex,
how has the sharks mtbeu been playing???
i thought he had a ton of potential when playing in the spXV and if he had some of that from in the CC, then he should be in the squad too.
SASaffolk
Captain30,741 posts
SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Oct 2013, 15:27#10
Mtembu has been very good, I was tempted to include him in my youthful squad. That lad has something about him
