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Evaluation of Bok Performance - what's your assessment?

Started by Just_win4 REPLIES193 VIEWS· 15 Sept 2013, 11:13
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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
15 Sept 2013, 11:13
#1
15 Sept 2013, 11:13#1

Rugby 365 rates the Bok players below. What is your assessment?

As Mozart said, this game is in the books now. The coach and fans need to focus on how to win in Ellis park and part of this is who should be on the team and do adjustments need to be made to the game plan/tactics. Some of us have already said the game plan was not working for the Boks (regardless of being 1 man down) so let's talk about that too. Do we have stats yet?

Here are the ratings:

15 Zane Kirchner
Disappointing as although he finished strongly by setting up Pat Lambie's try he was not secure enough under the high ball, handing possession over too often and his kicking was also put under pressure.  
4/10

14 Willie le Roux
Got very little opportunity to make an impact and played more of a linking role. He made a good break at the death that almost saw the Boks secure a bonus point but kept fairly quiet otherwise.
6/10

13 JJ Engelbrecht
Got off the line quickly on defence but tended to isolate himself on attack and battled to bring his outside backs into the game.
5/10

12 Jean de Villiers
Made good ground with some direct running and his organisational skills were valuable on defence. Shifted to wing towards the end of the game and showed that he still does not lack any pace.
6/10

11 Bryan Habana
His team were made to pay for a horrible kick early on, but he worked hard to win a turnover and even got involved in the maul for the try in the first half.
6/10

10 Morné Steyn
Conceded ground on defence too often and his kicking let him down at times too, missing touch from penalties and then putting it out on the full from outside his 22. His cross-kick for the second try was spot-on and he did show some good touches but it was an erratic performance.
5/10

9 Ruan Pienaar
Started well with some good kicking and decent service, but got far too sloppy with loose passes, fumbled high balls, missed tackles and innacurate kicks spoiling his game.
4/10

8 Duane Vermeulen
He was everywhere, making a few crucual turnovers in the 22, tackling his heart out and finding some space with the ball in hand as well. He was put under pressure at the back of the scrum and lost the ball in contact at times but it was a committed display.
8/10

7 Willem Alberts
Brought his trademark physicality on attack and defence, smashing into the All Blacks in his limited time on the pitch, but his game was also cut short by the cards.
6/10

6 Francois Louw
Got stuck in at the breakdown and worked hard under pressure, but there were too many errors as well, as he lost the ball forward, threw a pass into touch and got blown up for not rolling away.
6/10

5 Flip van der Merwe
Was only on for the first half, but made a good impact as he stole a line-out and got through some strong work on defence.
7/10

4 Eben Etzebeth
Showed his class by taking the game to the All Blacks with his tireless physicality and immense work rate. Lost one line-out but otherwise rock solid and showed his value in both the tight and the loose by mauling, cover-tackling and running hard.
8/10

3 Jannie du Plessis
Very poor performance from the veteran who was penalised both in the scrums and at the breakdown and missed some crucial tackles which cost his team.
3/10

2 Bismarck du Plessis
It may be harsh to penalise him for his two yellow cards, but it did have a huge influence on the game regardless of whether he deserved them or not. In his time on the pitch he had a stormer, winning multiple turnovers, scoring a try from a maul and getting his team on the front foot regularly.
5/10

1 Tendai Mtawarira
Made the ideal start as he smashed Owen Franks backwards at the first scrum, but was also blown up for an early shove and lost the ball forward on the tryline.
6/10

Replacements:

16 Adriaan Strauss (On for Willem Alberts, 45 mins)
Made a positive impact by running hard and also won some important turnovers on defence.
7/10

17 Gurthrö Steenkamp (On for Mtawarira, 55 mins)
Up against it from the start in a seven-man scrum and forced to do a lot of tackling which left him fairly lethargic.
5/10

18 Coenie Oosthuizen (On for Jannie du Plessis, 55 mins)
Blown up for not taking the hit at a scrum, and brought plenty of energy but battled to impose himself as he would like.
6/10

19 Juandré Kruger (On for Flip van der Merwe, 41 mins)
on at half-time and played more of a role in the loose exchanges than the tight. Dropped Duane Vermeulen at a line-out and ran sideways too often.
5/10

20 Siya Kolisi (On for Francois Louw, 74 mins)
Not many chances to get involved but ran and tackled hard.
6/10

21 Jano Vermaak (on for Ruan Pienaar, 70 mins)
Injected some pace and cleared the rucks quickly.
6/10

22 Pat Lambie (On for Zane Kirchner, 74 mins)
Showed good composure to finish his try and attacked the line when he got the chance to run.
7/10

23 Jan Serfontein (On for JJ Engelbrecht, 74 mins)
Ran hard and got over the gainline well.
6/10

By Michael de Vries

 

 

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
15 Sept 2013, 11:28
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15 Sept 2013, 11:28#2

 I usually agree with most of the ratings from rugby365, much better than the crap offered by planet rugby.

 

Forgetting about the Bismaark drama, the boks did not play well enough.

The kicking game was poor and the defence missed way too many one on one tackles.

 

I am starting to think we really need to get rid of Jannie Duplessis as he seems to specialize in missing one on one tackles

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
15 Sept 2013, 11:55
#3
15 Sept 2013, 11:55#3

All Blacks have players that are developing behind starters (hooker is still a weakness) but for the Boks the picture does not look so clear to me. I don't see the development plan. For 9 and 10 there are problems. In the forwards things seem in better shape than in the Backs IMO. But just focusing on 9 and 10 for a minute:

 10 Morné Steyn (5/10); 9 Ruan Pienaar (4/10)

For sure Ruan Pienaar is a major weakness surely SA has someone else they can bring  in or at least be developing? Jano Vermaak (6/10) Is he the answer?

Morne Steyn had a mediocre day. Doubt he will be changed immediately but Pat Lambie (7/10)  I would be making sure Lambie gets enough game time. He looks like someone who is more in line with a game plan that includes a running game.

 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Sept 2013, 13:42
#4
15 Sept 2013, 13:42#4
In the main I think the ratings were reasonable - but for the following slight changes:- * Kirchner - 3/10 (Defence was really deficient) * Steyn - 4/10 (diabolical kicking display - defence also poor) * Pienaar - 3/10 I DO NOT THINK THE RATING WAS FAIR INSOFAR AS Bismarck du Plessis is concerned - since the referee ruled him pout of the game for 50 minutes. For the 30 minutes he did play he was in fact awesome. Incidentally the ref was 1/10 merely because it is customary to have a referee and there needed one to be on the field of play. He was there to f#ck up everything. I think Meyer has to think hard on some selections - especially the following:- * The half back combination * We need more mobile loosies * He needs to find a lock partner for Etzebeth * We need a stronger tighthead prop and get rid of Steenkamp.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
15 Sept 2013, 14:05
#5
15 Sept 2013, 14:05#5

 Skarkbok: I agree with your revised ratings & your conclusion  about inside backs. Who is being developed to cover these weaknesses? To me it looks like Boks are just trying to win games & not having the dual goal of win & develop. On the ref rating, yeah he was abysmal!  Lets see if there is any official statement. Isn't this the same ref beeno has as his photo? Poor old beeno, will he survive this or perhaps this is what he lives for, llolling locks & especially the line out Etzabeth needs a partner. For line outs Boks need another jumperbut it doesn't have to be a lock. Etzabeth is a fantastic talent & will only get better but needs to have players that complement his ability.

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