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Ewen Mckenzie hands in Resignation- "Jake White just submitted his updated CV"

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sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
18 Oct 2014, 13:47
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18 Oct 2014, 13:47#1

Just heard live on Sky Sports that Mckenzie has resigned.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
18 Oct 2014, 13:51
#2
18 Oct 2014, 13:51#2
Jake White would be a good fit for Australia. He can help them with the forwards, defense and a territory game. If he could bring in Larkam as a backline coach they could be a good team. Jake White was great with the forwards for the Brumbies. 
Cheka does not have international experience yet, so the safe bet would be Jake  White
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
18 Oct 2014, 13:53
#3
18 Oct 2014, 13:53#3
Here is the announcement:  McKenzie resigns as Wallaby coachSat, 18 Oct 2014 11:50

The Australian Rugby Union revealed that Ewen McKenzie has resigned as Wallaby coach.

McKenzie announced his resignation after the Qantas Wallabies were gallant in defeat, going down 29-28 to New Zealand at Suncorp Stadium on Saturday 18 October.

Australian Rugby Union CEO Bill Pulver paid tribute to McKenzie who has led Australia in 22 Tests since starting in the role in August 2013.

“I did not ask Ewen to resign, but understand his decision. He informed me this morning of his intention to resign, regardless of tonight’s result.”

“Ewen is a world-class coach and a world-class individual who has been committed to playing entertaining Rugby for our fans since he started in the role.

“During his tenure, he has overseen a seven match winning streak, drew against the All Blacks and beat South Africa – all achievements that had not been met in the previous year.  

“We sincerely wish Ewen well for the future professionally and personally.”

Mr Pulver said the process to find a replacement has now begun.

“We hope to have the new Head Coach in place before the team leaves for the Spring Tour on Friday.”

“Criteria for the role includes identifying a coach who can lead us to victory in next year’s Rugby World Cup; represents Rugby’s core values; has the support of the playing group; and is available.

“As part of this process, we will also identify structural improvements to the off-field element of the Wallabies, with a senior leadership role to be created to support the team.

“We will work with the incoming coach on that structure, with a solution to be in place as soon as possible,” Pulver said.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
18 Oct 2014, 13:54
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18 Oct 2014, 13:54#4
 Man that is nonsense. Ewen has hardly started. He could have won the draw ab t est and certainly had the better side today.You must be joking.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
18 Oct 2014, 13:56
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18 Oct 2014, 13:56#5
 Great shame if he was innocent. Problem may have been the players siding with Beale in the press. We will find out what happened but hard to see a bloke go out like this.
Yes, White will change his air ticket & make a detour from Tonga, lol Ever the opportunist.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
18 Oct 2014, 13:57
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18 Oct 2014, 13:57#6
My condolences to Ewen!! Terribly unlucky to lose today. Side played good rugby.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
18 Oct 2014, 14:00
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18 Oct 2014, 14:00#7
 I wouldnt be surprised if Oz hadnt contacted him a while back.
OZ should have stuck with their man and imposed discipline. Jake will not tolerate ths nonsen se from Beale or anybody.


CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Oct 2014, 14:05
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18 Oct 2014, 14:05#8
 Sorry for McKenzie - he was hounded out by the press and some players was not entirely loyal in their comments to thepress.
The question is who is to succeed him?   Will the Wallabies be prepared to accept Jake White as their coach?   Will he ditch Tonga - like he ditched the Brumbies and the Sharks?  Will the Wallabies rathr go for Cheika - or is he too unstable for a coach?
It will be interesting to see what happens during the enxt week.   They have to apppoint a coach this week - so that is where the situation would get really troublesoome and interesting.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
18 Oct 2014, 14:05
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18 Oct 2014, 14:05#9
 Ewe criticised Deans for not  imposing discipline & putting up with the three amigos. Ironic end for him & not fair unless there is something we haven't heard yet.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
18 Oct 2014, 14:06
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18 Oct 2014, 14:06#10
 There are articles in the Oz press saying white was approached before the kick-off today. We will learn soon I guess.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
18 Oct 2014, 14:31
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18 Oct 2014, 14:31#11
 Ewen McKenzie resigns as Wallabies coach (Rugby stuff) Wallaby coach Ewen McKenzie has announced his resignation.

The former Australian international fell on his sword after last night's dramatic 29-28 last-minute loss to the All Blacks in Brisbane.

"The easiest thing for me to do is to exit -- stage left," he said at the official press conference.

McKenzie's job has been in jeopardy ever since revelations surrounding the Kurtley Beale texting saga and claims of a romantic involvement with former Wallaby business manager Di Patston who has since resigned. 

Beale will face a code of conduct hearing this week.

ARU boss Bill Pulver said: "At 10am this morning (Saturday), I got an email from Ewen with resignation attached. I tried to talk him out of this."

He described it as "extremely disappointing that a Wallabies coach has had to resign like this".

NSW coach Michael Cheika is tipped to take over for the Wallabies' end of year tour to Europe and is likely to take Australia to the World Cup in England next year.

South Africa's World Cup winning coach Jake White could be a wild card.

Pulver added that he felt the media's treatment of McKenzie had been "an extraordinary character assassination".

"I was not expecting his decision today so basically we are right back at the start," he said.

ARU board member John Eales said seeing McKenzie walk away from presser was one of the saddest sights he has seen in sport

- Stuff

BE
becsPro4,378 posts
18 Oct 2014, 15:48
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18 Oct 2014, 15:48#12
 Not really, Cloudy.England have been employing women in similar roles since the era of Woodward. I suppose it is just a case of how the sexist males around manage to cope with them. If those two are completely innocent of anything, which they may well be, I hope they damned well sue the Union and every single player that has tarnished their images. And I am not someone that believes in that sort of thing normally. But I just get sick and tired of gossip and innuendo ever time a woman enters into any form of friendship with a man. 
It's really time a lot of people started to grow the hell up. 
CL
ClaydogClub Pro691 posts
18 Oct 2014, 16:06
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18 Oct 2014, 16:06#13
We all missed you Cloudy. Surprised by ewes resignation. I actually thought our Rugby improved under Mckenzie and there were some good signs. Players coming out supporting Beale was the final nail I suppose.  
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
18 Oct 2014, 16:10
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18 Oct 2014, 16:10#14
 Beale has sunk TWO coaches , one by not wearing the proper kicking boots and the other by insinuating he was knocking boots !
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
18 Oct 2014, 16:38
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18 Oct 2014, 16:38#15
 His players did him in no doubt ,same as for Deans .Tail wagging the dog , I could never imagine the ABS senior players being so disloyal nor vthe Boks for that both teams actually respect coaches .Coopers "Toxic environment "quote was correct just not the way folks thought ,too much "star power"and "player power ",check out the small humbling things like the senior ABS cleaning out the dressing room which keeps their heads from fattening .
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
18 Oct 2014, 16:38
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18 Oct 2014, 16:38#16
 I may have taken the p!ss outta Ewan but this is shameful and shabby treatment by his own players .He should of pointed out what that jumper meant when he was playing and the record he had while wearing it .
HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
18 Oct 2014, 18:48
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18 Oct 2014, 18:48#17
 I reckon Deans will be given a 2nd go
AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
18 Oct 2014, 19:12
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18 Oct 2014, 19:12#18
Aren't Zimbawbe searching for a rugby coack?
Him and Mugface will be sure to steer them to the top in rugby.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
18 Oct 2014, 20:34
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18 Oct 2014, 20:34#19
 Note this Ewen resigned before the test;

Australian rugby was plunged further into crisis a year out from the World Cup on Saturday when under-fire coach Ewen McKenzie resigned a few hours before the Wallabies were beaten 29-28 by New Zealand in Brisbane.

McKenzie, who took over from Robbie Deans in July last year, had come under pressure for his role in the row over offensive text messages Kurtley Beale allegedly sent to a team official in June.

Beale faces a Code of Conduct hearing into the affair next week but it has already caused two weeks of turmoil which have made Australian rugby a laughing stock around the world.

McKenzie informed the Australian Rugby Union (ARU) of his decision on Saturday morning and announced his resignation after the last-gasp defeat to the world champions at Lang Park.

"My intention was win, lose or draw tonight, to announce my resignation tonight. I've just told the team," he told a news conference in Brisbane.

"It's been a disappointing time I think for many reasons, I won't even go into the detail, you guys can work it out.

"I've written to the board and I've been unhappy with a bunch of things so the easiest thing for me is to exit stage left and I'll leave you guys to ponder, speculate and I'll write a chapter of my book and you will know all about it."

Last week, the 49-year-old was forced to deny he had been involved in an intimate relation with Di Patston, the official at the centre of the Beale row, and he faced the accusation that he had lost the support of senior players over her role with the team.

"I think Australian rugby has lost a very good man today," ARU chief executive Bill Pulver told reporters in Brisbane.

"In essence, Ewen said he was going to struggle to retain the level of support he needs from the playing group and, in my view, because of the character assassination he's suffered in the last two weeks.

"The attack on Ewen was relentless and essentially left him with the view it set him too far back to be an effective rugby coach."

The defeat to the All Blacks was a third straight loss for the Wallabies after defeats in South Africa and Argentina over the last month and left McKenzie with a 50 percent winning record in his 22 matches in charge.

Pulver said he hoped to appoint a new coach to take Australia through to the "World Cup and beyond" before the end of the week when the Wallabies depart for their tour of Europe.

If that was not possible, he said, the ARU would consider a caretaker coach.

Former Springbok coach Jake White, who was in the frame to replace Deans last year, and Michael Cheika, who led New South Wales Waratahs to the Super Rugby title this year, are likely to be leading candidates.

McKenzie, who led the Queensland Reds to the 2011 Super Rugby title, got the job when Deans was sacked in the wake of the series defeat to the British and Irish Lions.

Very much an advocate of the "my way or the highway" school of management, the World Cup-winning test prop stamped his authority on the squad early in his reign when he disciplined 15 players for a late night out in Dublin last November.

A seven-match winning streak through last year's tour of Europe and the 3-0 sweep of France in a June test series this year offered the promise of improvements on the pitch.

But hopes of reclaiming the Bledisloe Cup from New Zealand -- Australia's Holy Grail -- foundered with a 12-12 draw and 51-20 defeat against the All Blacks at the start of the Rugby Championship in August.

These three amigoes have caused plenty of trouble. The wrong message is going out to the players especially if B eale comes back. What a saga.
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
19 Oct 2014, 00:20
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19 Oct 2014, 00:20#20

My understanding is that Ewan's resignation was motivated by the exposure of his off-field activities. Rumour  has it that he is going through a divorce and that his relationship with the now resigned Manager of the team went a tad further than normal business. He himself had created the position for her as Team Manager.



Please note I'm far from making any moral judgement on the issues involved,  I do feel strongly about Beale's role in the matter and I do feel for McKenzie as I have no doubts about his dedication and commitment to the Wallabies.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Oct 2014, 00:44
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19 Oct 2014, 00:44#21
Well Beale, O Connor and the Qualude are brats.....but having an affair within a small community like a team is incredibly stupid.  
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
19 Oct 2014, 00:51
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19 Oct 2014, 00:51#22
There seems to be lots of rumor-mongering going on and  the media seem to be following a common vein, perhaps they're onto something...who knows? But as for Beale...well yes, he is a brat.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Oct 2014, 01:05
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19 Oct 2014, 01:05#23
Mozart
There is no indication that Cooper had anything to do with this lot and he has changed his ways a lot recently.   He is not in the O'Connor - Beale category.  O'Connor is walking the straight and the narrow nowadays and may yet be redeemed.   Beale I am afraid is just too stupid to do anything correct and will be a thorne in NZ rugby as long as he is around.   
I know you dislike Cooper - but please do not drag him into something he h ad nothing to do with.   
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Oct 2014, 01:14
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19 Oct 2014, 01:14#24
 I think the competition for appointment will be between White and Cheika.    Both are not easy babies and both ahve some baggage.  White walked out of the Brumbies halfway through his contract and then did the same to the Sharks.    I wonder whether the sneaky bugger was not aware of the Australia problems and resigned before they really crystallized in the hope that he will land the job.
Cheika is temperamental and could bo embarrassing things.   a rugby man - and likely a better coach in the Aussie environment - but not the most mature person around.
In the case of  White be supported - he will need a decent backline coach badly - he really is clueless when it comes to backline play.     
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Oct 2014, 01:27
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19 Oct 2014, 01:27#25
Gosh and there you were saying this a few weeks back

"I wrote lsewhere about the selection problems encountered by the Sharks in recent weeks - namely the useage of Andre Esterhuizen and Paul Jordaan - or lack of it in recent matches lost or drawn by the Sharks.    Did Jake Wh8ite caused those misadventures as a result of inteference in team selection?    

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Probably it was instrumental in creating a bad team atmosphere. and a generally poor performance by the Sharks in the three matches invovled.      The sudden recovery against the Sharks indicated that there wwas a clear change in team selection and hugely postive results"



So now Jake was scheming about the Aussie job...not being fired because of a bad atmosphere resulting from team  selection? 


And how do you feel about the Sharks " clear change in team selection" after today's debacle.


It would never have been that bad under Jake.

WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
19 Oct 2014, 03:01
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19 Oct 2014, 03:01#26
 Aussie media causing trouble between a man and his missus based on innuendo and rumour is grubby in the extreme and doesnt belong within cooie of a Rugby field .I can joke about it but my word counts for bugger all but reporters should have along hard look insde themselves if they have caused a married couple unwarranted grief ,and even if he did break the bonds of marriage its not our farking business .
BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
19 Oct 2014, 04:30
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19 Oct 2014, 04:30#27

 ...the Aussies couldn't do much worse than having dopey McKenzie the former prop for a coach... except maybe Jake the flake - you'd have to be totally daft to even consider White as a feasible option....would be the absolute height of desperation to pick that silly little yarpy......ironically McKenzie is leaving just when they seem to have got their backline clicking, after much experimentation....achieved through luck more than design I'd say... unsure if the Aussies were good last night or we just played like sh!t...was a good training run for our B team anyhow..


...Heaps better without Beale and Toomua last night the Aussies, a massive improvement of epic proportions - many Aussies also gunning for Nic White's head after his carnal sin of kicking possession away to the best attacking team in the world in the dying minutes yesterday...maybe Genia can replace him...QC is too flakey as well so they'd do well to scrub him but for absolute emergencies..


... but throw Speight, another ace up their sleeve back in the mix and the Aussies wouldn't have too bad a hand going forward into the RWC....that is if they can play with the gusto they showed last night...consistent in their inconsistencies though are the Aussies and prone to bouts of apathy ...maybe the new coach or the thought of a big fat RWC bonus cheque can fire them up...


...Cheika is the obvious choice to replace Link they're saying but wouldn't that mean that the Tahs would be looking for a new coach...a complication some of those scheming Tahs players probably didn't foresee when they were undermining the coach... And McKenzie's tell all book will probably be a best seller and rake in the cash so not all bad for him, although some will probably see his leaving as an admission of guilt...


...the Aussie captain may have also lost a few fans over this whole sordid affair as well and there's suggestions that there is a rift between the Tahs players in the Wallaby camp and the rest of the Wallabies which isn't ideal going forward into a RWC year...will we see Hooper replaced as he is very young and many saying too young and immature to be leading Australia...?


CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Oct 2014, 09:27
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19 Oct 2014, 09:27#28
 Mozart
The Sharkshad a problem - they lost up front and that would have happened whether Jake made the selections or not.   There other problem is that a key member of their backline - Jordaan - is out with an injury.
Thinking of  the future and especially Super 15 next year - I think there will have to eb some serious adjustments made next year.    Lets look at that objectively:-
The Sharks Backline
The return of Lambie and Reinach will strengthen the team -  but Jordaan will miss the first 6 to 8 weeks of the 2015 series.
I am not impressed by Esterhuizen - he has the bulk and strength - but there is a serious problem with his performance.   So the Sharks do have a problem at inside center.   The answer is not Francois Steyn - he is an even worse performer and defender than Esterhuizen and the Japanese season ends in March/April only.
They have to find another inside center - but where would he come from.
The Forwards  
 I do not think Jannie Du Plessis would have made a difference yesterday.  He was outscrummd in the Super series by Schalk van der Merwe and it would have been the same on Saturday.   Beast and Bismarck would have made a difference.   In essense the situation is that the Sharks is in serious need of a tighthead prop that could take over from Jannie.  Adriaanse is not the answer.   
At lock the return of Pieter-Steph du Toit would make a difference.   They have a problem with their number 4 lock.   They can think of Willem Alberts - but his work rate is so abysmal - he would not be the answer.   The alternative is to play Du Toit at 4 and Lewies at 5.     
The above being said - the Sharks loosies were really problematic - they could not compete with the loosies of the Lions.   The funny part is that if Alberts were playing - they would even be less competitive than they were.   They will have Coetzee bak and that would really be the answer. 
So where are the problems in the Sharks team in Super 15 next year?  I would say -
*   at inside center - where they need to find an alternative player;*   at tighthead prop; and*   at no 4 lock.
They also need to strengthen the squad by finding back up players of suitable quality in some positions - essentially those as quoted above.  
Jake would NOT have made a difference to the outcome yesterday - he would have come in with even a worse team than the one fielded yesterday by the Sharks.   They were beaten easily by a better team that played a better brand of rugby.  He clearly had a hand in the selection of the teams that played in the games lost bey the Sharks against the Pumas and the Griquas - and drew against the Cheetahs and that was that.  
There were much discussion about the reason for the Deaprture of White from the Sharks and clear indications that the water was muddied and that he would have to go  even before the Aussie vacancy became public knowledge.     I would not al all be surprised if he did not have a hint of what was coming on the Aussie side and puthimself in a position where he would be a candidate uneencumbered by present contracts.      
   
     
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