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Started by Devil's Advocate10 REPLIES334 VIEWS· 31 Jul 2017, 16:31
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DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
31 Jul 2017, 16:31
#1
31 Jul 2017, 16:31#1

I am not going to be overly harsh on this result, but I will be honest by saying it is extremely frustrating when comments like below are made by our national captain after a loss.


Here is what Faf had to say, when interviewed after today's loss of the 3rd test.


"The mistakes in the first Test and the third Tests have been obvious."


So, the professionals that represent our country, and get paid a sh!t load of money doing it.... did not learn a single thing from the first test?


"Our batters can learn from Elgar. We came out today and the guys fought really well. As Test batsmen, we have to score hundreds. Amazing knock from Dean today, showed us what we needed to do here."


Really now, so Amla, De Kock, and Faf can now learn from Elgar, on how to be patient and score a slow, deliberate and deserving ton.


You would swear that with their current experience in the team, and mental fortitude from the amount of games they have all played between them, Elgar would be learning from all of them, and not the other way around.. maybe barring De Kock.


Frustrating is an understatement


MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Jul 2017, 16:43
#2
31 Jul 2017, 16:43#2
So few South African teams recently have been willing to fight for a result, the Lions excepted. It's a state of mind.
DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
31 Jul 2017, 17:07
#3
31 Jul 2017, 17:07#3

Mozart, I agree


I remember in 2013 when Dale Steyn had 16 to get off 19 balls, with 3 wickets left, to give us an outright win in the one Wanderers test against India


With the possibility of making all time history by chasing the world record of 418 runs previously chased down by the West Indies against Australia, we were chasing 458 to win, but Steyn and Philander shouldered arms for 3 overs and we drew with 8 needed to win.


Steyn... to the crowds huge disappointment, which I agree, even hit a 6 when he knew they could no longer lose


Gibbs at the time said that that particular win would have eclipsed the 438 game, in his opinion


Kepler said that they had more to win by going for it, than playing for the draw, as did the majority of South Africans at the time.


Must be a mentality thing, because no ways in hell  would the Indians or Aussies in particular, have let an opportunity of a lifetime like that, pass them by.



AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
31 Jul 2017, 18:38
#4
31 Jul 2017, 18:38#4
Unfortunately, SA cricket by all accounts claim to be international class but what is lacking is the will to commit to winning and always staying positive and focused.
Reputations can be made in one game and destroyed in the next....but classy players perform consistently and motivate players around them. This has not been the case with this squad.
This is a prime example of winning a series against a second tier team in a home series and claiming to be back on track with a powerful batting line up and more than capable of taking on England at home.
Well we all now know recognize that claim as hogwash and changes must be made asap.
An inspired captain is required first, one who can motivate and rally the team when the chips are down. Not knocking du Plessis but I do not think he is a leader when the going gets tough.
Batting is a total disaster....surely there must be players in SA  who are capable of better performances than these so called experienced batters.
What a shockingly poor performance all round.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
31 Jul 2017, 20:17
#5
31 Jul 2017, 20:17#5
 The bowling attack let down the side and the problems with Philander were a major problem as this was a wicket he could have done well on.  England made far to many runs on a wicket like this was. Obviously, in addition, too many batsmen under performed. Rabada was second highest score in the first innings with 30! What is of note is Elgar's very poor technique. Yet despite that and with luck on his side he achieved a test hundred.
CH
ChippoPro3,372 posts
31 Jul 2017, 22:23
#6
31 Jul 2017, 22:23#6
Beeno?
The bowling attack let us down???
haha mate did you watch us batting?
Our bowling was like GOLD compared to our batting!
DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
01 Aug 2017, 07:44
#7
01 Aug 2017, 07:44#7

I have to agree with Chippo here


The batting was absolutely dismal


Then... normally, it's the usual


"We will learn from this"


"This is a young team"


"We will refocus and come back hard"


"The senior players need to lead by example and get runs on the board"




 

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
01 Aug 2017, 08:19
#8
01 Aug 2017, 08:19#8
 
Most of our boys don't care any more.

Teams of yester year would be gutted at a loss. You could see it in the way they spoke ... in the way they held themselves.

Now they come off laughing and joking as though it's no big deal.

At least the Lions still have a little pride. They give it their best ... for the coach ... for the fans ... and for themselves. I hope they never lose it. 

Our national cricket team are a bunch of losers. They have been for a long time now.

 
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
01 Aug 2017, 08:34
#9
01 Aug 2017, 08:34#9
 Well, what is to be expected when you front with a 33yr old as an newbie opener under English conditions....I guess the same as can be expected when they fronted with the average Wayne Parnell. Blind Freddie could see that Parnell was useless.....and why going forward would you invest in a 33year old? Batting Quinnie at #4???....that's just dumb.
DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
01 Aug 2017, 12:37
#10
01 Aug 2017, 12:37#10
CleanCut

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Posts: 5674 RE: Faf - Frustrating Cricket Comments
August 01, 2017, 08:19:28

 
Most of our boys don't care any more.

Teams of yester year would be gutted at a loss. You could see it in the way they spoke ... in the way they held themselves.

Now they come off laughing and joking as though it's no big deal.

 

I have to say CC, I 100% agree


I don't exactly expect them to all burst into tears with a loss, but I must say, comparing the new era teams with the reactions of the previous era teams, there is no comparison regarding the grit and determination to succeed, barr ing a few players.


Regarding the drawn game that I mentioned above, that said a lot to me back then on what the team mentality was about.


Playing it way too safe


Ponting, Waugh, Hussain, Vaughan..... would never have settled for a draw with 8 runs needed to win


CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
01 Aug 2017, 12:47
#11
01 Aug 2017, 12:47#11
Exactly, CC and DA. Compare this test with the one at Lords' in 2008. On that occasion England put on 593 in the first innings and then dismissed us for 247, enforcing the follow on. That was when the guys who slipped up in the first innings stepped up to the plate. All three of Smith, Amla and McKenzie, another 30 odd year old "flop" who was supposedly a kak opener, put on centuries to save the match and force a draw. By all accounts England should have wiped us out in that test. Only problem for them was the balls of the SA batsman. These guys have poppy seed for balls.
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