
sharkbok
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sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
01 Oct 2018, 15:25#2
Yes, this is what seemed to keep Australia in the game during the first half, and part of the 2nd half.
Some of these should have been passed back to Pollard who has had more time and space to assess the situation.
Short up and under are a waste of time, and this is what many were.
It is either needs to be a long kick to play for territory- or one that is high enough to be chased to make it a 50/50 situation.
JWJust_win
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JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
01 Oct 2018, 15:27#3
Pakie , I suggest you also evaluate the quality of the chase as if that’s no good possession loss is almost guaranteed.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Oct 2018, 17:05#6
Thanks Pakie that was my impression. I also thought a number of the kicks were too short....even if we regained possession, probably a 10% probability the territory gain wasn't adequate reward for risking possession loss.
The Bools of old put the ball high enough to kick it far enough, landing in the 10 metre zone outside the oppo 22. And guys like Basson were brilliant kick chasers who could challenge in the air. We don't have one kick chaser today....Rassie has to address this weakness.
If you can turnover 35% of the balls landing in that zone you have a weapon.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Oct 2018, 18:04#9
Oh sure Tokkie the 2 time Super Champion Bools and 2009 Lions taming and 3 times NZ sweeping Boks were a disaster
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Oct 2018, 18:17#13
No Tokkie ....I rarely talk about Morne, but in this case he is totally relevant. The Bools may not have been a balanced team, but no other team executed the kick and chase better. And despite all your bleating it's a tactic that all teams still use.

sharkbok
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sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
01 Oct 2018, 19:36#17
The context of the 2008-2010 era should be considered The Bulls had a forward pack that could run over the opposition forwards and then pull in their backs as the last line of defence. By this stage, there was so much space on the field all they had to was straighten the line, and the outside backs could line up to finish the try.
If a forward pack is totally dominant, and they have a 9 and 10 then can kick well- they are going to dominate both territory and possession. This is turned into pressure and with that points.The up and under's the Bulls did were well-timed, and had lots of chasers- allowing them to smash the opposition to pieces.
Imagine catching a high up and under at Loftus, and seeing Bakkies and co chasing this hoping they could run over you.
Matfield was also at his peak during this era, so kicking the ball out often led to winning the ball back at the lineout. Rolling kicks for territory were often a good option because Matfield would win the ball back.

sharkbok
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sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
02 Oct 2018, 03:31#21
Pollard's tactical kicking is also limited, so it is certainly a weak area for the Boks.
Just don't let Willie Leroux start his pop kicks that he was doing in 2015, that were so predictable.