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Faf stop kicking pointless box kicks

Started by Saffolk 28 REPLIES770 VIEWS· 20 Oct 2019, 12:46
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
20 Oct 2019, 12:46
#1
20 Oct 2019, 12:46#1
Fuck sake
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redsmanPro1,710 posts
20 Oct 2019, 12:47
#2
20 Oct 2019, 12:47#2

haha thats bok tactics 101 mate

just like wobs running it in the 22...  

MS
Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
20 Oct 2019, 13:19
#3
20 Oct 2019, 13:19#3

You not notice that all your guys do that??? Its how your coach wants to play you fool. 

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
20 Oct 2019, 13:26
#4
20 Oct 2019, 13:26#4

Agree Saffex. This is the most absurd tactic ever. 

BL
BlackboyClub Pro702 posts
20 Oct 2019, 13:34
#5
20 Oct 2019, 13:34#5
Pisspot why would a coach want you to kick good ball away..........................you know FA about rugby.............go play with your marbles dom fuk
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redsmanPro1,710 posts
20 Oct 2019, 13:48
#6
20 Oct 2019, 13:48#6

more kicks and more kicks... seriously bad and stupid tactic

MS
Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
20 Oct 2019, 14:16
#7
20 Oct 2019, 14:16#7

Because they are crap in the backs. cant pass for shit. This is their base tactic in EVERY test from ALL their halfbacks. catch a wakeup you thicko.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
20 Oct 2019, 14:26
#8
20 Oct 2019, 14:26#8
When Jantjies did the box kicks, they were at least contestable. Faff is the worst box kicker ever, most of us could box kick better...
PA
PakieCaptain17,321 posts
20 Oct 2019, 14:35
#9
20 Oct 2019, 14:35#9

Haha, it's tactics guys. You really think Rassie would allow Faf 12+ box kicks per game all season long if it wasn't team tactics? Don't you think the captain or whoever calls the shots on the field would go up to him and say "enough of that shit now, pass the ball"?

MS
Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
20 Oct 2019, 14:35
#10
20 Oct 2019, 14:35#10

You guys dont have good receivers under these kicks. You lost a lot of Faf kicks because you got bulliied in the air. So the question isif you dont have a big weapon in the air why do it at all?? You dont have a Folau so youll get beat every time. Your coach is basically a dumbass for always wanting shallow kicks. 

PA
PakieCaptain17,321 posts
20 Oct 2019, 14:48
#11
20 Oct 2019, 14:48#11

Yep, we don't have the tools for the tactic.

MS
Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
20 Oct 2019, 14:53
#12
20 Oct 2019, 14:53#12

Your natural game is counter attacking with you speed out wide. Its so obvious. Get the wide me out quickly.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
20 Oct 2019, 14:53
#13
20 Oct 2019, 14:53#13

Faffs kicks are not contestable, when other players did kicks, it worked out ok percentage wise.


MS
Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
20 Oct 2019, 15:16
#14
20 Oct 2019, 15:16#14

Thats not true your other scrummies have even worse skills. Almost every kick was reachable by faf all your guys get under it but lose to the opposition every time. They arent good in the air. 

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
20 Oct 2019, 15:18
#15
20 Oct 2019, 15:18#15
@Camb, do they let you watch rugby on the construction site? You should be watching football with the other chavs. It is not a game you were allowed to play, so how can  you know more than other posters who have actually played this game? 
PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
20 Oct 2019, 16:37
#16
20 Oct 2019, 16:37#16

Faf is a great box kicker...When he is allowed the freedom to choose when to do it. 

Forcing him to play a specific kicking tactic negates too many of the positives he brings to the game. 

The main one being his reading of the game and playing what he sees in front of him.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
20 Oct 2019, 18:14
#17
20 Oct 2019, 18:14#17
Faff is the worst box kicker I have ever seen. I am a fan of his game, but when it comes to box kicks I would rather my grandmother done them
PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
20 Oct 2019, 18:25
#18
20 Oct 2019, 18:25#18

Shark. 

Go and watch replays of Lions games. 

Not so much box kicking, but his chips into space and to corners kept the Lions rolling forward and scoring very often. 

Also remember that when the box kick is telegraphed and a clear strategy, it's accuracy has to be much higher than if it's used sporadically. Opposition just sit back and wait for it.

That's part of why I think relying on it so heavily is a silly idea.

Rassie might just not trust the backs. Whatever the reason, box kicks seem to be our gameplan. 

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
20 Oct 2019, 18:40
#19
20 Oct 2019, 18:40#19

@Plum,

He did some good kicks - but not box kicks. Some territorial touch finders, and also kicking into space were solid. 

Japan made a lot of obstructive running on Faffs up and under. This helped make them even less contestable. The one around the 60th minute was so blatant, surprised the referee did not see them.

However, I have had a good chance to see Faff's up and unders, and they are not good. If this is the game plan, rather play someone who can do box kicks.



PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
20 Oct 2019, 19:01
#20
20 Oct 2019, 19:01#20

From that perspective I agree Shark.

Reinach can put up some serious bombs. 

What I want to know is, why the hell do we always end up on box kicking?

Are we really that brain dead and insecure about our skills?

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
20 Oct 2019, 19:25
#21
20 Oct 2019, 19:25#21
Paul Oconnel said the Rassie Game plan is to play no rugby in his own half, and just play a pressure game. The problem is that Faff also started doing box kicks when in the opposition half, and this is the weakest area of his game.
MS
Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
20 Oct 2019, 19:31
#22
20 Oct 2019, 19:31#22

Hahahaha! I'm no chav and no I did play rugby. Shouldnt you be watching "soccer" or is it only good for darkies... rugby is just for "you people". 

Anyways back to the topic your scrummies arent good kickers or passers. Your last good one was Du Preez. I dunno why but you guys love to have wings at scrummy. All that running down under I suppose. Basic skills are crap so what is your coach supposed to do, rebiuld their entire game??? Thats insane. Its not a national coaches job to teach basic skills. Can only work with what you have but I think he doesnt choose the right game. Play off 10 rather than 9 and get your wings into play. For Bokkies scrummy is flyhalf. Sort that crap out. 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
20 Oct 2019, 19:36
#23
20 Oct 2019, 19:36#23
And the Poms have fucking useless Heinz on the bench Fuckwit, I’d shut the fuck up if I was you Youngs is as boring as fuck adds zero value with ball in hand Faf, Reinach and Jantjies are all far far better Heinz is dogshit how he made to Pom squad is beyond me, especially ahead of Care
MS
Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
20 Oct 2019, 20:08
#24
20 Oct 2019, 20:08#24

Youngs is ten times the scrummy any of your lot are. He is amazing. Man our backs are awesome I dont blame you for being so angry. We create opportunities we dont bash, bash cross our fingers and pray that something magical happens. 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
20 Oct 2019, 20:13
#25
20 Oct 2019, 20:13#25
Youngs is crap, Farrell is talked up like the useless Itoje Tuilagi is meant to be your wonderful weapon and he does stuff all game after game Joseph and Slade are shit little lightweights Francis is absolutely useless Your outside backs are good I’ll give you that
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
20 Oct 2019, 20:26
#26
20 Oct 2019, 20:26#26

Farrell is a Northern Monkey that should be playing league with simpletons of the same brain capacity. 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
20 Oct 2019, 20:29
#27
20 Oct 2019, 20:29#27
I love the way the Poms talk up their players We had Woodward telling us Itoje would make the AB side - yeah right maybe as the waterboy
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redsmanPro1,710 posts
20 Oct 2019, 23:12
#28
20 Oct 2019, 23:12#28

so will the boks chage their tactics against wales and if they win for the GF vs ABs or Poms.

I think they got away with it vs minnow japan but any team with counter attacking ability will make them pay.


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Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
20 Oct 2019, 23:16
#29
20 Oct 2019, 23:16#29

What can the Bokkies do differently?? They dont have the guys to play better rugby. You can make some shifts to make it work better but thats it. Too late now shoulda built something better than this from the beginning. 

Willemse/Elton at 10
Pawlard at 12
Dimian at 13
Steyn at 15

Kwagga at 6
Louw at 7
Vermu at 8

That's pretty drastic and way better than the poopy mess you got right now. 

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