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Flecky blames Luck & Discipline for Woeful Stormers

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sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,255 posts
01 Jun 2018, 17:53
#1
01 Jun 2018, 17:53#1

BY CRAIG RAY - 27 May 2018 - 11:58

Robbie Fleck laments poor discipline and bad luck

“Let’s be honest‚ the character shown by our team was unbelievable. “There are games when decisions go against you and games when they go against you. This season we haven’t been on the right side of a lot of decisions.”

“We haven’t been lucky this year but the guys kept fighting. When you’re defending with 13 men‚ it’s going to take its toll.

"The attitude of the players showed that culturally we are strong‚ they play for the jersey and as a coach you have to be happy with that.

Stormers coach Robbie Fleck is one of the few people that understands what Liverpool goalkeeper Loris Karius must be going through after witnessing his team implode on Saturday. We deserved our lead at halftime and I still believed we could’ve won our last game despite the red card. 

The Stormers gave up a 17-7 lead thanks to two yellow cards and a red card on Saturday to lose 26-23 to the Lions at Newlands‚ extinguishing what little flicker of playoff light they had left.

Karius’ two howlers in the Champions League final in Kiev cost Liverpool two goals as Real Madrid won Europe’s showpiece tournament on the back of those keeping errors.

Karius was a desolate and isolated figure after the game and Fleck appears to be in a similar situation at the Stormers.

After his press briefing, the young Stormers mentor was seen sitting alone in the team dressing room‚ head in hands‚ clearly distraught after a season that has been dogged bad luck as well as bad mistakes.

On Saturday wing Raymond Rhule was red-carded for making contact with opposite number Ruan Combrinck in mid-air while flank Jaco Coetzee and centre JJ Engelbrecht earned yellow cards for dangerous tackles.

All the infringements happened between the 36th and 59th minutes.

“If you look at it [Rhule’s incident] from a safety point of view‚ and you connect with the head of another player‚ it’s a red card’” Fleck said.

“But I know there wasn’t any intent and ultimately it wasn’t great for the game‚ obviously.

“Our discipline was an issue. We spoke before the match that if we gave away too many penalties we would allow the Lions into the game. Look‚ some of the penalties against us were 50/50 calls.

“But we had a red card and two yellows‚ which makes it difficult. I can’t argue with Jaco Coetzee’s yellow coming after a warning‚ but in JJ’s case‚ the player did jump into the tackle and it was quite tough to control that.

“Generally we could have been better with our discipline‚ because we gave then chances to get into our half.

The Stormers‚ like all the SA franchises‚ have a break now before regrouping during the June Test window and Fleck vowed that his side would not roll over in their final two fixtures in July.

“We are out of it now. We thought we had a chance with the Bulls and Sharks losing before us this weekend but no longer‚” Fleck said.

“But we are still excited that when we get back together in a few weeks‚ with a full-strength squad‚ that we can finish the campaign off strong.” (Even if the last 2 campaigns are won, it would not be strong  However, even that is unlikely)

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
01 Jun 2018, 18:03
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01 Jun 2018, 18:03#2

He is right. With JJ's tackle, the fool jumping into the tackle should have been penalized...just like the final AB Lions match. It is pathetic how much top reffs get crucial calls wrong. Stormers were kak this year, but some of the calls against them even kakker. Rugby is a professional sport and should do better.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,255 posts
01 Jun 2018, 18:26
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01 Jun 2018, 18:26#3
They may well have had some close losses, but they have had no convincing wins so they cant blame the flip of the coin. They started well but got weaker as the tournament progressed. Many players are out of form like Kolisi and Kitshoff- but is this due to moral or game plan
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
01 Jun 2018, 19:45
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01 Jun 2018, 19:45#4

Draad you wont get much objectivity from some anti Stormer blowhards.

Anybody who think the Lions were the better side need to have the head examined to see if there are any brains cells resident in those vacuous craniums!

GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
02 Jun 2018, 05:25
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02 Jun 2018, 05:25#5

Beeno..."Anybody who think the Lions were the better side need to have the head examined to see if there are any brains cells resident in those vacuous craniums!"

To be objective how do you explain that they the Lions are on the top of their conference and the Stompies last...LOL

Reminds me of ol' PDV's logic:

"We won on the field of play but not on the scoreboard! "

Bahahahahahahas...do you guys remember that classic quote?





CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
02 Jun 2018, 08:54
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02 Jun 2018, 08:54#6

Fleck was a useless Bok and he's even worse at coaching.

To think they appointed this idiot over one with the world's experience at his finger tips. Total madness.

Now it's one excuse after another. He doesn't have the balls to admit that he's incompetent.

His selections are on the same level as BeanDip and his desire to turn props into hookers, full backs into scrummies and loose forwards into centers.

The Stormers are doing as poorly as they are because of this moron. How he's managed to stay there for longer than a season is beyond me. 

A damn fool ... full of excuses. How many times haven't we heard this idiot say that he's not concerned about their log position ... or ... that the team's leaning from every thrashing they take down under.

What really cracks me up is that idiots like BeanDip accept this horsesheeeeat story and chalk ea ch thrashing down to Fleckies brilliance.

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaha!!!

Well ... if you're stupid enough to keep such a fool at the helm, then you deserve what you get.


DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
02 Jun 2018, 10:32
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02 Jun 2018, 10:32#7

Nope CC, we know he should not be the coach. Eddie Jones or Mitchell should have been. Hoskins and Kevin de Klerk of the Lions talked Thelo Asleepfield out of hiring Mitch...and Meyer's boks losing to Japan gave Eddie the England job....excuses, I know, but hell it's been a comedy of errors for years now. Fleck is our problems...the fools who put him there is the real idiocy. 

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,255 posts
02 Jun 2018, 12:02
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02 Jun 2018, 12:02#8
Bad luck and poor discipline is the reason Robbie Fleck is in the position, to begin with. The results are clear for all to see. 

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
02 Jun 2018, 12:14
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02 Jun 2018, 12:14#9

Well BeanDip has defended this idiot for the last two seasons.

Methinks it's the high levels of broccoli toxins in his bloodstream that's clouded his judgement these last few years.

That and being put on noekie rations.


PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
02 Jun 2018, 14:21
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02 Jun 2018, 14:21#10

Dread

From an SA conference perspective I'm glad the Lions won. 

As usual though, the refs and rules influence games in ways that won't be missed if ever they were replaced by more logical and practical people/systems.

Now we can look forward to yet another international season of Bok rapings.

At least you got some rain this week :)


DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
02 Jun 2018, 15:42
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02 Jun 2018, 15:42#11

Yes we had some rain and there's a bit more coming tonight...then fair weather till next weekend....

As for our rugby woes. We have some great feeder schools in the region.  We should be dominating South African Rugby and should be kicking Kiwi arse too on occasion, but unfortunately the show is run by amateurs full of self interest. There is a big problem in WP Rugby regardles of government interference and the Q.

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