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Former Test ref: Garces got crucial Louw penalty WRONG!

Started by Denny13 REPLIES513 VIEWS· 29 Oct 2019, 01:49
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
29 Oct 2019, 01:49
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29 Oct 2019, 01:49#1

Cape Town - Rob Debney, a former Test referee from England, says a late call went incorrectly against Wales in Sunday's Rugby World Cup semi-final defeat to South Africa in Yokohama.

Via a column for The Times, Debney said French referee Jerome Garces erred in not awarding Wales a penalty on the Springboks' 10m line.

With the scores level at 16-all, the Welsh were on the attack when Garces awarded South Africa a penalty at a ruck with Bok replacement flank Francois Louw doing good work on the ground.

But Debney has suggested that the penalty should have gone Wales' way as Springbok lock Franco Mostert prevented a Welsh player from clearing out Louw.

Debney wrote: "He (Garces) penalised Wales with 10 minutes to go. They were on the 10m line and generating some good momentum and he incorrectly penalised Alun Wyn Jones for holding on.

"Garces should have penalised South Africa as Franco Mostert did not move away and prevented Elliot Dee from clearing out Francois Louw. Wales should have had a kickable penalty that would have put them 19-16 up."

Moments later, South Africa won a penalty off a powerful driving maul which flyhalf Handre Pollard coolly slotted to give the Boks a 19-16 victory.

Debney also questioned that penalty, writing: "Just a few minutes later, he penalised Wales either for coming in from the side at a maul or collapsing it, but he had been letting this sort of thing go all game. Why give it at that stage of the game?

"He changed the way he refereed in the final 10 minutes and contributed to South Africa winning it, which is not what a referee should do."

Prior Sunday's match, the Springboks had a torrid 4-14 win-loss record under Garces as referee.


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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
29 Oct 2019, 02:17
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29 Oct 2019, 02:17#2
Another copy and paste Good stuff Denise - valuable input from you once again
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
29 Oct 2019, 02:28
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29 Oct 2019, 02:28#3

It's a damn sight better than your very limited  "you're a Fuckwit" and/or "you're fucking ignorant"...and/or "You're fucking stupid" 


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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
29 Oct 2019, 02:31
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29 Oct 2019, 02:31#4
Difference is I throw sone rugby insight in with my insults. The insight is brilliant and the insults deserving What the fuck do you contribute you ignorant prick? It’s a serious question
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
29 Oct 2019, 02:46
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29 Oct 2019, 02:46#5

Well let's see......most recently I brought Willie's deficiencies to your attention something that obviously escaped you even though it dates back to the year 2015 and before.

Deny it as much as you like but you now agree with me......go'on deny it and I'll reference your utterances.

I also tried to help you with why it would be totally stupid to go along with your idea of playing the inexperienced Willemse in a WC final. Any tool would know that he's had limited exposure in the WC and that he would shit himself just like you are right now posting in the middle of the night. 

Hope that helps. 

Just don't forget to wipe the froth from your jaws before you go back to sleep.



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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
29 Oct 2019, 07:24
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29 Oct 2019, 07:24#6

I wish the highlights packages would include these incidents and I don't know why they don't. These are match changing moments. I don't want to download the entire 4GB game just to review this (not the sort of game I want to watch again).

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
29 Oct 2019, 07:29
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29 Oct 2019, 07:29#7

Haha Pakie

Here are the possession stats;

<Wales 15%> <Sky 70%> <Boks 15%>

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
29 Oct 2019, 07:32
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29 Oct 2019, 07:32#8

Soun ds about right

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
29 Oct 2019, 07:37
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29 Oct 2019, 07:37#9

What is cool about Bok fans is that if we did review that call, you can bet we won't all agree based on jersey color.

It's our weakness and our strength.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
29 Oct 2019, 07:43
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29 Oct 2019, 07:43#10

These breakdown calls are often bones of contention, I spot so many where the jackal has a knee on the ground or on another player or doesn't allow for a release by the carrier etc. Difficult for a ref to call on the spot and they get quite a few wrong I think, but the world just sort of goes with it.

Then sometimes, as in this example, these calls happen at critical moments and then it's a hullabaloo. The screenshot on the Times site would indicate that the writer may have a point, but it's tough to call not knowing exactly how Mostert ended up where he did.

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ChippoPro3,372 posts
29 Oct 2019, 07:51
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29 Oct 2019, 07:51#11
Shame You win some you lose some. Most of the time, the grain goes against the Bokke. I’ll take this error from Garces as a bit of pay back for al the other shit calls he’s made against us.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
29 Oct 2019, 09:55
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29 Oct 2019, 09:55#12
Denise don’t kid yourself you would not know what rugby deficiencies constitute. Even if you did I would certainly not agree with you on them Get this straight, Willie has no deficiencies he is just out of form - there is a huge difference beyond your comprehension You don’t need experience to play a game of rugby - Willemse would be fine
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
29 Oct 2019, 10:26
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29 Oct 2019, 10:26#13

“  You don’t need experience to play a game of rugby - Willemse would be fine “

This begs to be repeated. No commentary needed. Just enjoy the moment. 

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
29 Oct 2019, 10:42
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29 Oct 2019, 10:42#14

....... ouDawie ....... never mind that we're talking nogal the RWC final.

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