foxsports current top 5 spXV players for every position

heres a new thread for the foxsport fantasy peeps, its a list of top 5 players in every position, but players who wont be playing this round due to byes, injuryies and/or suspensions, have been filtered out.

a one stop shop of top 5 players in every position, for any who are lazy like me and are stuck in decidng who to get for wherever,

props

Ben Franks HUR$336K151
Kane Hames HIG$140K123
Chris King HIG$266K108
Steven Kitshoff STO$306K99
Jeffery Toomaga-Allen HUR$299K94

hookers

Dane Coles HUR$310K179
Stephen Moore BRU$404K169
Deon Fourie STO$395K145
Bismarck du Plessis SHA$322K143
Liam Coltman HIG$203K122

locks

Jeremy Thrush HUR$310K101
Sam Whitelock CRU$324K93
Sam Carter BRU$253K87
Rob Simmons RED$250K80
Hugh Pyle REB$307K78

looseforwards

Luke Braid BLU$382K162
Duane Vermeulen STO$303K141
Steven Luatua BLU$421K127
Jacques du Plessis BUL$252K126
Marcell Coetzee SHA$322K126

halfbacks

TJ Perenara HUR$225K80
Tawera Kerr-Barlow CHI$205K79
Luke Burgess REB$197K71
Nic White BRU$207K69
Bryn Hall BLU$149K52

flyhalf

Beauden Barrett HUR$354K153
Quade Cooper RED$328K145
Kurtley Beale WAR$311K140
Bernard Foley WAR$324K117
Simon Hickey BLU$144K82

center

Conrad Smith HUR$318K117
Damian de Allende STO$225K115
Jacques-Louis Potgieter BUL$135K114
Malakai Fekitoa HIG$127K110
Ryan Crotty CRU$277K101

outside backs

Robbie Coleman BRU$207K129
Charles Piutau BLU$358K123
George Moala  BLU$252K120
Jesse Mogg BRU$311K116
Lwazi Mvovo SHA$304K108

Sasuke, there's something horribly wrong with those stats of yours. 
Israel Folau has scored 181 Foxsport points which makes him comfortably the #1 outside back on Foxsport ahead of Robbie Coleman who only has 129 points, while Marnitz Boshoff is on 154 Foxsport points, one point ahead of Beauden Barret but he doesn't feature on your flyhalf list?
No offence but your "stats" look like a steaming pile of horseshit.
I mean seriously, you don't need to look at a stats list to know that Folau is the leading outside back in this year's comp so far. The fact that he didn't even appear on your top 5 should have set off some kind of alarm bell!

A pologies Sasuke, my mistake. I didn't read the bit where you said players not playing in the upcoming round are filtered out.
As you were!

 Hahahahahaha - pop went the weasel!

This is why this game is only a fantasy with no relation to reality. 
Most of the top performers are from New Zealand, yet in this years tournament are the lowest ranked teams overall. Only the Chiefs are even in the top 6. (even with teams on their byes).
The Hurricanes have one of the weakest tight fives in the tournament.

The Hurricanes pack was thrown around like a rag dolls when they played the Sharks scrum, and yet many of their their tight 5 ranks number one -WTF?
Ben Franks - top prop

Dan Coles number 1 hooker, what a joke. Even though Bismaark and Straus have not been at one of the top of their games, it is hard to understand how another member of perhaps the weakest tight 5 is ranked number one.
Deon Fourie is ranked number 3 at hooker, yet he is actually playing as a loose forward.
Jeremy Thrush the best lock- LMAO!, maybe the best rash but nothing more.
Kurtley Beale is playing centre and is ranked higher at flyhalf than his own flyhalf at the Warratahs.
As per usual, barely any South Africans are doing well, even when in years like South Africa having 3 out of the top 6 ranked teams.
I can understand how sometimes our backs might not score that high, but then many of our forwards also score badly- so if the stats were any where near accurate, how have SA teams been consistently ranked in the top6 and top8 since the Super14.
Until their are some credible rugby figures involved in these fantasy websites, they remain a joke.

 Sssue 
Flip van der Merwe (lock) is out injured.  

 "Kurtley Beale is playing centre and is ranked higher at flyhalf than his own flyhalf."

... and JL Potgieter, a flyhalf is ranked as a cent re..

@parttime sharkbok,

"This is why this game is only a fantasy with no relation to reality.
Most of the top performers are from New Zealand, yet in this years tournament are the lowest ranked teams overall. Only the Chiefs are even in the top 6."
ur rugby smarts is a fantasy with no relation to reality.

u use the current placings of NZ teams as some kind of measuring stick on individual performances??? o_O
are u even aware that its only rnd 6 and there are 19 rounds in a season???

on top of that 3 SA teams have played 5 games to date, and 2 of them have played 6, while NZ have 3 teams who have played 4 game and only 2 have played 5.

president obama wants u to know,,,


"The Hurricanes have one of the weakest tight fives in the tournament.
The Hurricanes pack was thrown around like a rag dolls when they played the Sharks scrum, and yet many of their their tight 5 ranks number one -WTF?Ben Franks - top prop"
i know ur IQ only allows u colouring book level activities and explanations, but tougher things have been accomplished, just look at hellen keller.

anyways, the performance of a tight 5 has nothing to do with the overall individual perforamnce of a player.

u want to know why ben franks is currently the top prop??? cos scrums are not the only things props do, well its the only thing that saffa props do.
but most props will also particpate in other areas, like ball carries, tackles made, pilfers, scoring tries etc.
all these earn individuals points and to date none have been better then ben franks.

im not surprised that u think scrums are the only thing that props do, ur sarugby.coms version of PDV.

"Dan Coles number 1 hooker, what a joke. Even though Bismaark and Straus have not been at one of the top of their games, it is hard to understand how another member of perhaps the weakest tight 5 is ranked number one."
if only u could learn to read, then my thread and both of rooys replies might have shed a little more light on the matter.

adriann strauss is the top hooker in foxsport at the moment, but as the cheetahs have a bye, he wasnt eligible for the top 5 players which have been named ofr rnd 7 considerations.

"Deon Fourie is ranked number 3 at hooker, yet he is actually playing as a loose forward."
there are plenty of examples of players being named in the wrong positions, usually there is a good explanation and in deons case, its because in the past he was a hooker for the stormers.
foxsport didnt update it accordingly, but once the season starts, players positions wont be changed no matter what.

and in deons case, he has played a number of games for the stormers at hooker and foxsport still recognises this, same with kurtley beale and the flyhlaf.

"As per usual, barely any South Africans are doing well, even when in years like South Africa having 3 out of the top 6 ranked teams."
really, so in that one year where SA had three teams in the top 6, the smae year where NZ should of had two teams in the top 4, also the same year where no SA team played in the grand final,,,
that one year barley had any south africans recgonised as doing well as per usual???
where is the evidence to support this statement of urs???

u have a habit of tlaking out ur arse, and this is a prime example. i know for a fact u have zero evidence, just like u had zero evidence when u said the Boks scored more tries then the All Blacks in last years RC/4nats.

"I can understand how sometimes our backs might not score that high,"
the entire universe understands that one.

because this thread is wreaking havoc on the mentally challenged, i want to point out that the purpose of this thread is to make selection headaches a little easier with players who are available for the upcoming round.

it should not be used as a measuring stick of current players true form, nor should it be used as a measuring stick of how a team or teams subgroups performance.

it is strictly for the benefit of foxsport fantasy players who will automatically understand its relevance.

apologies to the mentally impaired who were not able to understand this.

@mikey,
thanks will fix it ASAP,

@part time sharkbok,

"how have SA teams been consistently ranked in the top6 and top8 since the Super14."

they have been shit.

top 8 since spXIV
2006 - NZ x 4, SA x 2, OZ x 2
2007 -NZ x 4, SA x 2, OZ x 2
2008 - NZ x 4, SA x 2, OZ x 2
2009 - NZ x 3, SA x 2, OZ x 3
2010 - NZ x 3, SA x 2, OZ x 3
2011 - NZ x 3, SA x 2, OZ x 3
2012 - NZ x 3, SA x 3, OZ x 2
2013 - NZ x 2, SA x 4, OZ x 2

NZ - 26 teams in the top 8
SA - 19 teams in the top 8
OZ - 19 teams in the top 8

top 4 since spXIV
2006 - NZ x 2, SA x 1, OZ x 1
2007 -NZ x 2, SA x 2, OZ x 0
2008 - NZ x 2, SA x 1, OZ x 1
2009 - NZ x 3, SA x 1, OZ x 0
2010 - NZ x 1, SA x 2, OZ x 1
2011 - NZ x 2, SA x 1, OZ x 1
2012 - NZ x 2, SA x 1, OZ x 1
2013 - NZ x 2, SA x 1, OZ x 1

NZ - 16 teams in the top 4
SA - 10 teams in the top 4
OZ -  6 teams in the top 4

wow since spXIV started, NZ have had 16 teams in the top 4, whihc is the same number as SA and OZ combined.

it seems the uchiha clan have underestimated just how powerful the NZ teams truly are.

 @Sasuke, I said Super14. Not super12 or Super10.

 @Sasuke, as usual very weak explanations. 
u use the current placings of NZ teams as some kind of measuring stick on individual performances??? o_OTo some degree yes! If the individuals are in form, or out of form- this will impact the team performance. (I thought this would be obvious). It is not the only factor, but certainly a vital factor. If 3 players from the tight Hurricanes-tight 5 are ranked number one, it would be expected that their forwards are dominating- (not just in scrums, but in all facets of play).
anyways, the performance of a tight 5 has nothing to do with the overall individual perforamnce of a player.

as above, if 3 out of 5 of their players are ranked number one, then the individual players performance will have allmost everything to do with team performance. (It is impossible to suggest otherwise, unless the other 2 tight five members are from the local Girl Scouts/Brownies club).It is 60% makeup of the pack that are ranked number one. 
cos scrums are not the only things props do, well its the only thing that saffa props do.
The set piece is the core function of a prop. Scrumming and catching the locks in the air in the lineouts, and at kick offs is their number one responsibility. Since the changes to the laws which favours strong scrumagers (like years gone) instead of just fetchers, we have seen how poor the New Zealand props are at scrumming.
Do you know the difference between a primary function and secondary function?Lets say you need to have a brain Transplant and a heart transplant. Neither operation is a success, but the doctor was able to fix the sink on the way out, would his performance be considered acceptable? Then again if you need a brain transplant, chances are you might think so....
Dan ColesBeing ranked number 2 is garbage.

Deon Fourie
Just because Deon Fourie played Hooker in the past, even if he plays as a loose forward now- he can be still be evaluated as a hooker. A crock of shit. So if Deon Fourie moves to wing, he can still be evaluated as a hooker....
A hookers number one role is to throw the ball into a lineout and also to scrum- to "hook"er the ball. These are the core functions of a hooker, and the secondary functions are the same for all forwards like tackling, carrying, clearing rucks, etc etc. (See the reference above to your unsuccessful brain transplant for more details)
If a hooker is throwing the ball in poorly and hooking the ball poorly, they are not playing well. BTW hooking the ball poorly is not sending is cleanly back through the channel, or putting his foot to far forward before the scrummie puts the ball in the scrum- this can result in a penalty.  

Could you also comment on this- "Jeremy Thrush the best lock- LMAO!, maybe the best rash but nothing more."

 Their are two ways to measure a players performance; Processes and Outcomes. The players on top while in underperforming sides, and look weaker in corresponding scrums compared to other teams. Players like B Franks, Coles overall processes that mean more then a teams overall exertion in a scrum. Like Pilfers, Ball Carries, Trys, Runs, Tackles etc. Look this is based on stats, and is designed for fantasy players to have all the correct information. But stats dont tell the whole story, stats say Coles is the best hooker in the comp in stats world, but if you focus on the outcomes maybe coles isint. But you sa bloggers dont have to use this as a "i cant beleive anyone beleives anyone who lives outside SA cant possibly be any good". Beleive it or not theirs a big wide world out their kiddo, yeah i know i was shocked too.

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 @3sku1, I am not just saying that a tight forward must "only" do well in scrums. It is also lineouts, and kick offs. The set piece is their core function, with other secondary responsibilities- like tackling, rucking, mauls, etc etc. 
The Canes are getting bullied all over the park, and yet they have 3 out of the 5 top positions within the tight five.

The tight five are the engine room first and foremost, please refer to my analogy about Sasuke's unsuccessful brain transplant for a more detailed explanation.

 Yeah sure the canea have been bullied, but in fantasy terms runs, tackle busts, trys etc. These score alot in fantasy rugby, coles is like a back playing hooker, so its not big a surprise too me. Stats aside if im looking past a players processes, and the tight fives function.
1. Dont kno his name but that guy from Bulls2. Strauss3. Hames4. Van Der Merwe5. Retilluck6. Luatua7. Vermeulen8. Van Der Valt9. Houggard10. Barratt11. Savea12. De Lande13. Smith14. Hendricks15. Smith

@part time sharkbok.

"@Sasuke, as usual very weak explanations."
pot kettle black.

"@Sasuke, I said Super14. Not super12 or Super10."
ROLMFAO,

hey retard, i only posted spXIV and spXV top 8 and top 4.
spXIV started in 2006.

oh wait i get it, roman numbers are acutally just letters to u,
super 14 started in 2006.



i post this comment to u,,,
sasuke uchiha - "u use the current placings of NZ teams as some kind of measuring stick on individual performances??? o_O
are u even aware that its only rnd 6 and there are 19 rounds in a season???"

and ur reply is,,,
"To some degree yes! If the individuals are in form, or out of form- this will impact the team performance. (I thought this would be obvious). It is not the only factor, but certainly a vital factor. If 3 players from the tight Hurricanes-tight 5 are ranked number one, it would be expected that their forwards are dominating- (not just in scrums, but in all facets of play)."

o_O

how about next. time u answer the question

bottom line of my point is, the ladder after round 6 is only a reflection of games after rnd 6, theres still 13 more rounds to come and when u consider that the SA conferecne have played 4 games more then the NZ conference.

"as above, if 3 out of 5 of their players are ranked number one, then the individual players performance will have allmost everything to do with team performance. (It is impossible to suggest otherwise, unless the other 2 tight five members are from the local Girl Scouts/Brownies club).
It is 60% makeup of the pack that are ranked number one."
ur mistake is accepting the foxsport stats as the be all end all of everything.
underneath this thread i will post the scoring system used by foxsport, it might help u better understand.

i will also say again, that of those 3 players, only ben franks is overall No1.
coles and thrush are number one in their position cos i didnt .include players like strauss and both the cheetah locks cos they have a bye this weekend.
i doubt u will understand that though, cos u didnt seem to the first time round

"The set piece is the core function of a prop. Scrumming and catching the locks in the air in the lineouts, and at kick offs is their number one responsibility.
Since the changes to the laws which favours strong scrumagers (like years gone) instead of just fetchers, we have seen how poor the New Zealand props are at scrumming."
the scoring system on foxsport posted below, is all the explanation u need.

ur aentire argument is redundant, as u are treating foxsport stats as gospel, when all it is is a collection of specific stats.

ben franks scrummagin may have been weak against the sharks, but the hurricanes 4 other games after that didnt see that level of capitulation.
add to that the tries, runs made, tackles, pilfers, line breaks, tackle breaks, offloads, handaling errors, and penalties conceded,a ll those factors are why ben franks is number one after rnd 6.

"Just because Deon Fourie played Hooker in the past, even if he plays as a loose forward now- he can be still be evaluated as a hooker. A crock of shit. So if Deon Fourie moves to wing, he can still be evaluated as a hooker...."
like ur spXIV,,,, i mean super 14 comment, this shows u are just plain dumb if u couldnt wrap ur head around the original explanation.

fourie was locked in at hooker at the start of the season, this can no longer be changed as the tournament has already started.

"Could you also comment on this- "Jeremy Thrush the best lock- LMAO!, maybe the best rash but nothing more."
funy that u of all people should as for a reply, when there has been countless of comments where u have proven to be full of poo and so dead wrong that u just ignore it.
still waiting

i hope u extend the same courtesy with my super 14 reply.

anyways, i already have commented on it, thrush is the best lock for this round only cos players who are suspended, injured and have a bye have not been included.

oh wait a minute, u wanted me to comment on ur funny rash pun courtesy ur wit.
sorry, but the only kind of wit u are is a real Fk wit,
LMFAO,

 

During the 2014 Super Rugby season, the players will be allocated a Fantasy point score after each match, based on their performances in the 2014 Super Rugby matches and the scoring system below. Only player performances in official 2014 Super Rugby matches are included in the scoring for Fantasy Super Rugby. The Fantasy points will be calculated using statistics supplied by the Promoter's data provider. The Promoter will not enter into any correspondence relating to the allocation of Fantasy points to players. The Promoter accepts no responsibility for the accuracy of this data and the Promoter's decision is final and binding.

Actions occurring in extra time count towards points scored. Points are awarded as set out in the table below:

Action Points Playing 1 - 60 minutes1 Props that play more than 60 minutes4 Hookers, locks and backrowers that play more than 61 minutes3 All other positions playing more than 61 minutes2 For each try scored by a prop or hooker15 For each try scored by a lock or backrower12 For each try scored by a scrum-half, fly-half, centre or outside back10 For each try assist5 For each try save5 For each conversion2 For each conversion miss-1 For each penalty goal3 For each penalty miss-1 For each drop goal3 For each drop goal miss-1 Yellow card-5 Red card-15 For each run1 For each tackle bust2 For each offload1 For each linebreak5 For each linebreak creates3 For each error-3 For each tackle made by a prop or hooker2 For each tackle made by all other positions1 For each tackle miss-2 For each lineout take on own throw1 For each lineout steal on opposition throw4 For each lineout error, includes not straight, throw error or jump error-3 For each tight head won, awarded to entire front row7 For each tight head lost, awarded to entire front row-3 For each pilfer4 For each turn over forced3 For each penalty - long arm-4

 These are specific stats like naru said, they are not an overall view of performance. Like i said their are two measures of performance; Outcomes and Processes. This is the latter, also the matches too, this week im not sure to go between barratt or beale, both face tough teams saders and tahs.

 @Sasuke, " I am taking Foxsports stats as gospel".

Actually, I am doing exactly the opposite. I am saying that it is not accurate- please refer again my analogy about your "Sasuke's" unsuccessful brain transplant for a more detailed explanation.  (Specialize vs utility value, how is the sink doing?)
Basically the Canes tight five is one of the worst in the tournament, yet they have 3 ranking in the top 3 (even removing teams with Byes, this is still ridiculous). If they had 3 players in the last position, this would be more accurate. 
Thrush is not the best lock, he is a joke. We have players in the Vodacom tournament better than him. 

Round 6 is allmost half way into the round robin stages of the tournament, and we are only talking about the performances so far, not the performances which are in the future. WTF!
Would the SuperXV coaches agree with the Fox Sport scoring system- i.e the rankings of players like the 3 Hurricanes tight give being in this weeks top positions. NO! Maybe just you and your hero Hammett.

Sharkbok - you're getting all wound up about nothing. Trust me. If you played fantasy rugby this would all make sense. Sasuke's been trying to tell you its not real life rankings or ratings or anything of the sort. All based on stats, and you'll find the Aus/NZ players normally score higher because of the style of game they play - higher running, tackling and scoring stats lead to higher scores.

 oimatey, I assure you I am not getting wound up. 
I am just ragging Sasuke and his supported team- the Canes.  You may notice some of our threads have the same theme, nothing serious!

Ah - well, have at it then !!
Sasuke has it coming after that thread he started about my "pitiful" Stormers ..... tails between their legs etc etc.

@parttime sharkbok,

"I am just ragging Sasuke and his supported team- the Canes.  You may notice some of our threads have the same theme, nothing serious!"

ahhhh i get it, that explains why u didnt u know when super14 started,,,,,, errrr wait a minute, it dosent,

LMFAO,