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FRANCE: THE JEKYLL AND HYDE OF RUGBY; Rugby 365

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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
12 Sept 2015, 22:01
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12 Sept 2015, 22:01#1

FOUR YEARS ON AND THE PERENNIAL QUESTION ARISES: WHICH FRANCE SIDE WILL TURN UP AT THE WORLD CUP?

The one that, of all the Northern Hemisphere nations, reserves their best rugby for confronting traditional favourites the All Blacks at the quadrennial showpiece?

Or the one that for all their natural talent sometimes looks a shambles.

A perfect example of this Jekyll and Hyde character was the manner they stumbled to defeat to Tonga four years ago before amazingly running the New Zealanders close in the final.

Truth be told things are no clearer four years on as the reign of Philippe Saint-Andre has failed to produce any more rhythm or consistency to their performances and results than under previous coach Marc Lievremont.

Indeed under Saint-Andre they have never finished higher than fourth in the Six Nations, filling that spot on three occasions, and even had the humbling experiencing of finishing rock bottom in 2013.

This maddening inconsistency was again reflected in their warm-up games, which ended honours even in their two matches against World Cup hosts England and a victory over an improving Scotland, who were more than holding their own at the Stade de France before the hosts grabbed a late winning try when the Scots were down to 14 men.

For Saint-Andre, who come what may at the World Cup, will stand down once France's campaign ends, there is no question that his troops, captained (as in 2011) by fearless flank Thierry Dusautoir, leave for the tournament in fine fettle regardless of the many sceptics at home and abroad.

"We will leave for England full of confidence, on the back of managing to win two successive games!" said the 48-year-old former France skipper and dashing wing, whose overall record as coach reads 17 wins, two draws and 21 defeats.

"This evening [the win over Scotland last Saturday] was a mock exam, and the first real exam will be on September 19 against Italy and we are preparing for that."

Chief among the criticisms of Saint-Andre's period in charge is that like Lievremont he has chopped and changed his line-ups, no more so than with the halfback partnerships which numbers 17 different variations in the 40 tests he has taken charge of.

However, if the last two games are a guide then the axis of Toulon duo scrumhalf Sebastien Tillous-Borde and mercurial Frederic Michalak will start against Italy, having filled those roles in the wins against England and Scotland.

Michalak - who thrust himself onto the world stage at the 2003 World Cup though his star lost a bit of its brilliance when he went to pieces in the semifinal defeat to England - has retained Saint-Andre's faith despite ongoing worries about his ability to disappear in tough games.

Certainly he will be one area that the battle-hardened Italians will target and the Irish too will lick their lips at the thought of unsettling him early on if he makes it through to the final pool game which could decide who tops the table.

That will be crucial as the runner-up are most likely to face a quarterfinal against the All Blacks - who may quake at the thought of the French having lost to them twice in the knockout rounds - with the winners facing probably Argentina, who are no pushovers themselves and have beaten both the Irish and the French in previous World Cups.

Saint-Andre, who will hand over the reins to legendary Toulouse coach Guy Noves, remains convinced that the disappointments of the past four years will not be repeated over the coming two months.

"One has to go there with the enthusiasm of the top of the class, as well as an unbelievable hunger and determination," said Saint-Andre.

"There is no brake in our hands, no limits to be respected.

"We are progressing, we are content with the what we are doing and we will prepare ourselves to win the World Cup, even if I will not say to you that we will be world champions."

AFP

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
12 Sept 2015, 22:04
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12 Sept 2015, 22:04#2
Yup, which one will show up. They even lose games in the pool & get to the final. One point you rarely see made is that they are a spoiler, i.e. they have never won the RWC only knocked out key teams. 
GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
14 Sept 2015, 06:51
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14 Sept 2015, 06:51#3
The Les Bleus are indeed a puzzle...capable of the most amazing rugby beating the very best on their day yet going down to Tonga and Italy (twice).

It is indeed a puzzle that rugby fundis cannot explain

I have theory that they are supercharged when it comes to the highest challenges but slump to mediocracy when there are weaker challenges

I think it is due to great spirit of patriotism

Difficulty attracts the characterful man, for it is by grasping it that he fulfils himself.
  • La difficulté attire l'homme de caractère, car c'est en l'étreignant qu'il se réalise lui-même.
  • in Mémoires de guerre.


Charles De  Gaulle


And yet that is not always the case they lost to Argentina twice in 2007 once in the pool game and then again in the knockout after sending the NZ home.
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
15 Sept 2015, 00:03
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15 Sept 2015, 00:03#4
 Hey Cloudy ,Seb ,JW !The French team of today isnt the FRench team of a few years ago ,that team had the talent to gel when a big game was in the offing .This team is pedestrian to say the least .
GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
15 Sept 2015, 10:18
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15 Sept 2015, 10:18#5
Still wouldn't write them off though...I'm sure it's coach related.

Marc Lievremont in 2011 was an unpopular coach with some of his players...is  Saint-Andre worst...well certainly not as good as Skrela and Bernard Laporte...France are changing coach next yr to Guy Noves.


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