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Franco Takes Flip Flop's place

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ntangaClub Pro336 posts
01 Oct 2013, 09:36
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01 Oct 2013, 09:36#1

Golden Lions lock Franco van der Merwe has been called up to the Springbok squad ahead of Saturday's clash with the All Blacks at Ellis Park.

The experienced Van der Merwe has been part of the squad for most of the competition and takes the place of Flip van der Merwe  in the group currently preparing for the final Rugby Championship Test of 2013.

“Losing any player, for whatever reasons, is never ideal but Franco knows our structures and plans very well, having been part of the squad since June last year,” said Springbok coach Heyneke Meyer.

Franco van der Merwe will join the squad at their base in Johannesburg on Monday.

On the injury front, apart from the normal bumps and bruises, only JJ Engelbrecht (centre) is a slight concern at the moment. He is nursing an injured quad muscle and will be given as much time as he needs to fully recover.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Oct 2013, 09:41
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01 Oct 2013, 09:41#2
Franco is really an over-rated player and he should not be anywhere near the Springbok squad.   I hope Du Toit starts at lock for the Springboks this week - especially in view of the flop Kruger made of that line out which could have given the Springboks a potential bonus point try on Saturday.    
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ntangaClub Pro336 posts
01 Oct 2013, 09:44
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01 Oct 2013, 09:44#3
 Wander whether HM will give him the nod ahead of PSD, purely because Franco has been in the business for sometime.  
My friend and I met Franco in Lansdowne Road Stadium last year, both of us could not recall who he was, as we took pictures with them, man!
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Oct 2013, 10:19
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01 Oct 2013, 10:19#4

ntanga

 

You gave the correct picture - he is very poor and not worth knowing who he is.  Howwever, nothing personal against him - problem is he is not a good enough player.

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
01 Oct 2013, 10:32
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01 Oct 2013, 10:32#5
 
I like Franco ... he may not be everyone's choice ... but who else would be a better option?

None of the alternatives have any test experience and throwing them in against the All Blacks is foolishness?

I think Franco will do just fine. He's a hard work horse and won't let the Bokke down ...

The time to blood young Du Toit is becoming more and more i mportyant. He is no doubt the future.


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CeradynePro9,374 posts
01 Oct 2013, 11:50
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01 Oct 2013, 11:50#6
clevermike

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Posts: 6987 RE: Franco Takes Flip Flop's place
October 01, 2013, 07:41:21
Franco is really an over-rated player and he should not be anywhere near the Springbok squad.   I hope Du Toit starts at lock for the Springboks this week - especially in view of the flop Kruger made of that line out which could have given the Springboks a potential bonus point try on Saturday.   


Great. Write off a player because on a flop that he "made of that line out". has anybody written off Schalk Burger for that flop that he made that coild have given us a win in the 2011 RWC QF? Or Danie Rossouw for the flop he made in that line-out which gave the Aus the winning shot at a penalty?
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Oct 2013, 12:13
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01 Oct 2013, 12:13#7

Ceradyne

 

A flop remains a flop - also of the others so generously quoted by you.   Danie Rossiw left our shores after that one and is not a factor anymore - sure he made a flop and it cost us dearly.   Burger has played virtually no rugby since the 2011 WC and sure - he will get it in the neck every time he buggered up.

 

However, Kruger - being poor in line out play generally - is a serial offender - end of story.  

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
01 Oct 2013, 13:12
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01 Oct 2013, 13:12#8
 OK. Let me put this one to you. What about the flop by Fourie du Preez in that game. There were actually more than one. We had a few penalties, within range, where he took quick taps and went for a try before the captain could stop the show and order Morne to take a shot at goal. So, there you have it two  rugby  greats being responsible for crucial flops at crucial times in crucial games.                                
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Oct 2013, 14:24
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01 Oct 2013, 14:24#9

Ceradyne

 

Fourie Du Preez did make some mistakes on Saturday - but his general performance was good enough.   The mistakes did not lead to a potential loss of a try - neither did it make a potential difference to the scoring of a bonus point try.

 

The real flops made were by Kruger and Kolisi - the latter isolating himself and hanging onto the ball when he was a few meters from the tryline, thus giving away a penalty.  But he had numerous examples giving him that idea - all of Alberts, Louw and Vermeulen did the same, so he was just following the example set by them.   

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
01 Oct 2013, 14:28
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01 Oct 2013, 14:28#10
Ahhh now, as usual, he brings in another one. All of them made mistakes on Saturday. Not only Kruger. I am not saying that Kruger is alpha and the omega. I am talking about your principle of wanting to discard a player because of one mistake. Not a specific player. A player.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Oct 2013, 14:57
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01 Oct 2013, 14:57#11

Ceradyne

 

No offence meant - but over the years players have been discarded for such mistakes and even less - especially when they lost a game because of poor play.   There are enough examples of that - Kruger will not be a unique case.

 

I say not that he should be discarded altogether - I say put the bugger on the bench and don't start with him in a crucial test.   He is in any event not an absolute essential and key player - in fact at best a marginal test player 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Oct 2013, 15:51
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01 Oct 2013, 15:51#12

Piss poor selection by Meyer.......Franco is a bog ordinary lock............Lood de Jager, Paul Willemse, David Bulbring, Peet Marais and Jacques du Plessis are all better options.

 

The obvious choice would have been the impressive Lood de Jager who can cover 4 and 5

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
01 Oct 2013, 15:54
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01 Oct 2013, 15:54#13
 Paul Willemse is getting better with every game, but he needs at least a full season in S15. I am with you Saff. Watch him. He looks like high school boy but he is becoming a "meneer".
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Oct 2013, 15:56
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01 Oct 2013, 15:56#14
Yes, Willemse has been very physical this year.......certainly one for the future. He and Lood will be great back-ups to Etzebeth and PSDT  
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
01 Oct 2013, 16:00
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01 Oct 2013, 16:00#15
 Juandre has done well as an impact player. You need a more physical lock to start.Pity about Flip. Is Du Toit ready. Meyer is not one for throwing in the youngsters. I think he will start with Juandre and play S teph off the bench. We shall see.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Oct 2013, 18:09
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01 Oct 2013, 18:09#16

Beeno

 

Meyer has a reputation to make weird selections and this will be another typical case.  He will be wrong if he does not start wit Du Toit - especially to counter the All Blacks in the line outs and in open and tight play.   Both Kruger and Van der Merwe has no grunt at all and Kruger especially is poor in line out play.  

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Oct 2013, 18:17
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01 Oct 2013, 18:17#17
The loss of Flip Flop creates a problem. None of these school boys are ready....Kruger will have to start. The trouble with Stephanie is he has been away from the game and needs game time. But is lion hearted. He will throw himself into the fra y and make mistakes, like being dispossessed by running away from his support.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Oct 2013, 18:41
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01 Oct 2013, 18:41#18

Mozart

 

He will have ample teammates that will show him how to run away from his support.   Alberts, Vermeulen and Louw are experts in that exact category - so why should Du T oit not follow their example???

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Oct 2013, 23:55
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01 Oct 2013, 23:55#19
Steph du Toit is twice the player Kruger is.......I'd rather have him lion hearted and making mistakes than play the gruntless Kruger against the AB's.

We need all the grunt we can muster against the AB's.......Kruger falls well short here.

Meyer is a conservative coach, he will start gruntless Kruger and play Steph du Toit off the bench sadly
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