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Francois Steyn - A Springbok in Future?

Started by clevermike12 REPLIES431 VIEWS· 19 Sept 2014, 14:22
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Sept 2014, 14:22
#1
19 Sept 2014, 14:22#1

The following from news24:-


"He hasn't ruled it out completely, but Springbok centre Frans Steyn says it’s unlikely he’ll play international rugby again.

Steyn, 27, shocked the rugby fraternity in June this year when he made himself unavailable for Springbok selection shortly before a Test against Wales in Durban, after playing against a World XV in Cape Town the previous week.

It emerged that his decision to pull out of the Springbok squad was due to a monetary dispute with the South African Rugby Union (SARU) regarding his image rights, which were handled by a third party.

Steyn was upset about a promise SARU made to him when he returned from French club, Racing Metro, to play for the Sharks in 2012. Due to the dispute with SARU, Steyn was earning less than half of what he could have made overseas.

In an interview with the EWN Sport website, Steyn said he's made peace with his decision but doesn't expect a return to the international fold.

He described the past six months as a "rollercoaster ride" and a period in his life he does not want over.

However, he feels he made the right decision because his "heart and soul wasn’t in it".

When asked if he thinks he will ever play international rugby again, Steyn said it was a tough question to answer.

He said it would be nice to play for the Boks again, but has "pretty much made peace with it, I don’t think it is going to happen".

Steyn has represented the Boks in 53 Tests since making his debut as a 19-year-old against Ireland in 2006."


Steyn was a star whn he emerge to play Springbok Rugby at 19 - he had and in some respects still has a cult following.   However,  after playing for Frnce for two years - he cme bak to SA in a wrteched physical condition - seriously overweight with drastically reduced pace.    


Because of major injury he played only 7 matches in SA in 2012 - two for the Sharks and 5 for the Springboks.   His performances in 2012 could best be described as average - no sin that he had the physical abilities he displayed earlier in his career.   


on  his return from injury in 2013 - he was shockingly over-weight and he was put on a programme for weight reduction by the Sharks.   His performances in the first four Super 15 ranged from acceptable in the first game to disastrously  poor in the fourth game in the series  - so poor that Plumtree at the time said he is no longer a suitable center.   He was dropped to the bench and did not start for the Sharks until injuries forced Plumtree to select him again.   Then followed 2 matches - the seond one in which he suffered another serious injury.


This year in Super 15 was not at all acceptable.   He was the poorest SA center in Super 15 on attack and the second poorest iin defense,   there seemed to be two isssues, namely -

  *    as he said himself, his heart was not into it: and

  *    he had a knee problem that cannot be corrected.


Jake White kept him playing - allowing him to miss field training on Mondays and Tuesdays.  Steyn was also still poverweight and not a picture of fitness either - he was still overweight and pace-deficient.   It shows in his peerformance statistics.    At center - he made 1 line break only in all the games he played at center  beating  only 8 defenders..   He lost more possession and gave away more penalties than any other SA center in Super 15.    He is the only SA center who never scored a sngle try in the competiton.   His missed tackl ratio was atrocious.


Should he be selected in future?   Only if his performances improved by 10 times in future - this year he was way below par.   Unless that occurs - he shoulls never be considered zt all.      


 


 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
19 Sept 2014, 14:37
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19 Sept 2014, 14:37#2
Bullshit, a good coach would be able to convince Frans to return and he is a definite for the Bok squad - pure class  
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
19 Sept 2014, 14:38
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19 Sept 2014, 14:38#3
 
Well ... even if he was available ... fraid he's just not Bok material.

Too many youngster offer a lot more than this over rated lard-ass.

He threw his toys and expected his bluff to produce some sort of payment apparently owed him. Instead his bluff was called and there he sits ... d-ick in hand ... regretting his tantrum.

 
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
19 Sept 2014, 14:47
#4
19 Sept 2014, 14:47#4
He is not the athlete he once was. His knee is finished and he is much heavier than what he was in his prime. His first test was at wing when he was 19 and had the speed. He has more power these days but has minimal stepping ability. 

Japan might be good for him as he will play less games. His body is not up to playing a whole SuperXV. Maybe he will be able to train more. 
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Sept 2014, 17:51
#5
19 Sept 2014, 17:51#5
The Sharks were much more successful with Frans at flyhalf. In fact with Frans  at flyhalf their win ratio was higher than any other S15 team. Coincidence? I don't think so.
AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
19 Sept 2014, 18:12
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19 Sept 2014, 18:12#6
 Francois is a pro rugby player who is skilled at the game and like all of us is a proud man reaping as much money as he can during his productive playing years.
Once he stops playing the SARU ain't going to "give" him a pension so he has to make hay while the sun shines.
Can you guys fault him for that.
Sure he has many supporters and others that don't like his game but, he was selected to represent his country 53 times.
Also that is 53 times more than any blogger on this site.
I for one suggest that if he never plays for the Boks again so be it but let the guy get his piggy bank filled with overseas money and not the useless RAND.
Cheers.
SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
19 Sept 2014, 18:34
#7
19 Sept 2014, 18:34#7
All he offers is a boot, and for a team like the Sharks that relies solely on that to win games don't expect him to win games for the Boks who rely on a much more balanced game at flyhalf as the scrum half does most of the kicking.
SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
19 Sept 2014, 18:35
#8
19 Sept 2014, 18:35#8
 You also can't escape from his poor tackling statistics and if you're someone who uses statistics to evaluate other players then it's quite ironic and contradictory if you support Frans Steyn. 
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Sept 2014, 19:03
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19 Sept 2014, 19:03#9
 Mozart ignores his poor stats and the fact that he has a deificiency in boh defense and attack - because he can kick at goal and is according to him physical.  He ws a detrimental factor in the Sharks backline and the fact they won had more to do with the Sharks team as a whole than with the questonable Steyn performance,   
The other factor he is favoured is because he was in the 2007 WC squad - so by 2013 he still has all the qualities he had in 2007 - for some times stads still.  
You cannot play Steyn as an international anymore and to be honest I think he realizes that his international rugby days are ove r.   
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
19 Sept 2014, 19:21
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19 Sept 2014, 19:21#10
@Arthur John
Their are bloggers with multiple aliases (e.g. Bozo the Ape, or is it Gonzo). Bozo is also known as Allucarde, and some Japanese war lord called Sun (something,,,)
Your login on the other hand seems the opposite. It as if their is multiple people logging into your avatar- as their is very little consistency in your opinions.Or perhaps you have a split personality?
AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
19 Sept 2014, 21:37
#11
19 Sept 2014, 21:37#11
 Sharkbok.......honest and direct I am.
Sorry if it does not jive with you.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,294 posts
19 Sept 2014, 21:43
#12
19 Sept 2014, 21:43#12
Just kidding!
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 Sept 2014, 00:59
#13
20 Sept 2014, 00:59#13
"Honest and direct I am" .....gadzooks is that you Yoda?
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