Frans Steyn 74% win ratio

Read between the line padre'!

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I see what you're doing chip.

@moz, don't underestimate the fellas wit.

Steyn was very good till he went to France and came back grossly overweight and totally useless.  His good performance game has been gone for 10 years now and what else can eb expected from him - slow and an utter flop.  .  

Not sure why the euphoria surrounding Frans Steyn, probably typical South African but while I applaud his selection it should be pointed out that he's been selected on reputation and experience, the latter is probably good from a leadership point of view but as to the former, reputation doesn't win games, the opposition sees him as just another player, he will have to perform like every other player. That said, my guess is that the leader post is just another predictable childish stir.

" Wynand Olivier was a class act" hahahha

You know Dave, every time you scratched your arse you popped a class act.

"anyone who drops Pollard for Frans Steyn at 10 confirms their rugby ignorance"

It's awfully hard to explain to you something as simple as the fact that Rassie brought back Frans Steyn as an alternative to Pollard. I mentioned this in an earlier post. News 24 carried the story. 

Now go ahead and bark to your heart's content but that is why I thought now is a good a time as any to trial Frans in the position. Obviously, Pollard would be on the bench.

Just as an aside residential "rugby wise guru"......if it works, it pretty much wipes the chances of your pin-up boy alternative,the schoolboy Elton Jantjies who Rassie quietly suffers as just another quota.

Comprehende? .....I doubt it.

Funny, you backed Lambie, and he was king of the charge downed clearance! 

No, Frans is a perfectly viable option at 10. Not my preferred position for him, but perfectly fine. He has outplayed many of the fan flubs, like Goosen. 

Also, how on earth can you trump the sieve defense Quade Cooper as a class act  but dismiss Curwin Bosch because of his defense?

Also, how on earth can you diss Ma'a Nonu and trump the carthorse, clueless and talentless Wynie Olivier as a class act?

Fransie had one good match at 10...the Currie Cup Final in Durbs against WP in the pouring rain....eons ago.

I still have his stats from 2008's super rugby, as well as 2014. His performances at 10 outshone those more lauded players such as Lambie et al. His best position is 12, but at 10 or 13, he is still viable. Arguably better suited to the Boks than Jantjies. Most definitely better than the carthorse du Preez. 

AO

BS in buckets again.  Fransie as a flop in all respects at flyhalf - as big a flop as Morne was,  When playing at flyhalf for the Sharks in 2014 he was piss-poor.  Missing a record number of tackles and making so many foul ups - mostly in kicking - that he set a new Super Rugby record for any player  in that  series ever.

Another example of rugby illiteracy is that you forget that Steyn was used a flyhalf and inside center by Montpellier - especially when White was around as coach.   The moment he left Montpellier paid a fortune to get Goosen to play at flyhalf and contracted Serfontein at center. From then on Steyn rarely played for Montpellier and when he did he played at full back - not at center or flyhalf.   So he was better than Goosen?  What an idiotic statement anyway.

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Frans was the best Shark in 2014, comfortably setting the bar at 12, 13, 10 and 15. The only problem was that there was only one Frans to go around. The Shark's best rugby was with Frans at 10, not Lambie. A bitter pill to swallow, but swallow you will. 

What a lark!!!!    Steyn was rated based on performance as the no 253 player in the Super Rugby tournament and also the no 32 center in the 2014 series by Foxport..   The best player in the  Sharks backline - blaas my siel!!!!  LMAO

He was lucky - White was the coach - and Steyn was protected by him.  No other franchise would have selected him with that record.anyway - but the "experts" (like in the case of Morne - the normal bench player of Stade Francais)  rated him as  capable of playing on test level.    

That means he was rated amongst the bench players at best.   Useless in 2014 and worse now.    If he is any good at present why did his club not renew his contract and why was he not played by them at 10 or 12?   

The Club Management is obviously less informed about rugby than our "experts" on site,   They would rather spent Euro 1,5 million to get Goosen out of his Racing Contract than remain with Fransie - th at is how stupid they are.     LMAO      

Does anyone know of a like for like replacement of Pollard?