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Frans Steyn: The Lions are in for a beating

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sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
04 Mar 2014, 09:13
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04 Mar 2014, 09:13#1

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Francois Steyn is happy to see the Lions back in Vodacom Super Rugby – but he has warned that the competition returnees can expect no mercy from his Sharks team when the team’s clash in a derby at Growthpoint Kings Park on Saturday evening.


“I am happy for them that they are back from the wilderness, but we are looking forward to putting in a really big performance against them. We want to do ourselves proud by putting in a big one,” said Steyn to Durban reporters on Monday afternoon.


Indeed, if there was a time for a statement from the Sharks, this match is probably it. All the other teams in the South African conference have lost at each once, and after the Lions went down to the Vodacom Bulls last weekend and with the Crusaders likely to beat the DHL Stormers earlier on Saturday, this is an opportunity for the Sharks to put lots of daylight between themselves and the rest.

A win over the Lions would mean that while they remain unbeaten, the rest of the teams in the South African conference would all have lost twice. Although it is still early days in the competition, that would mean that the pressure was squarely on the Sharks’ local rivals to make up ground, and the pressure will be on them.


If that came to pass, it would be a far cry from the situation the Sharks have found themselves in during some previous seasons, when the Sharks have found themselves on a knock-out footing from around the halfway point of the competition.

Steyn, now 26 and no longer the youngster in the team that he was when he made his debut for the Springboks back in 2006, says he is enjoying his rugby as if he was still a “laaitie”, and puts that down to the influence of his old Bok mentor, Sharks director of rugby Jake White. It was White who first selected him to the national team when he was still a teenager, and Steyn enjoys knowing he is backed.


“When you have had lot of injuries, just to run freely again is fun and when you have no niggles you get into form much quicker. I am feeling very good about my game after struggling so much last year,” said Steyn.


“Jake was the one who first gave me a chance at the Boks, so I will always be thankful towards him. It’s nice to be at a place where the coach really understands you. I’m enjoying it and hopefully that will produce the form he wants.”

The Sharks are coming back from their bye in the Lions game, and it will be interesting to see what impact the week off has had on them. By all accounts White drove them hard and unrelentingly in the off-season and in the pre-season and the four days he gave them off from rugby would have been welcomed.


White admitted that he saw “dead legs” on the field towards the end of the recent match against the Hurricanes, and the break might have freshened those legs up – something that might spell trouble for the Lions.

The Sharks team will be finalised on Thursday but with all the top players available it is not expected to change much from the side that laboured a big before winning quite comprehensively against the Hurricanes

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Mar 2014, 09:29
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04 Mar 2014, 09:29#2

Sharkbok


'I am happy for them that they are back from the wilderness, but we are looking forward to putting in a really big performance against them. We want to do ourselves proud by putting in a big one,”


The Royal WE did not apply in the Hurricanes game - where Steyn buggered up badly through ball hogging to an amazing degree and making numerous errors in the process.

If that continues on Saturday it will impact negatively on the team.  If he wants to be a team player - he must realize the team consists of 15 players - not Steyn and a few  other players.


I hope Steyn got a good dressing down by White after that fiasco and start playing proper rugby.   We will see whether after Saturday he remains the Witless Hog he was against the Hurricanes.          

 

ST
Sun-TzuClub Pro713 posts
04 Mar 2014, 12:46
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04 Mar 2014, 12:46#3
Frans has yet to put a foot wrong this year. His strong carries in the face of a vicious Hurricane defence was vital to the win; I doubt the Lions will be able to replicate that line speed or physicality. Given more space we can expect the Sharks to score a few tries. I would just like to see more awareness from Lambie. In the second half against the Hurricanes, the Sharks were in their 22 and Lambie completely missed an opportunity to dart for the line unopposed. Two hurricane defenders left Lambie unmarked and were too hasty to drift and cover Frans. Though don't be surprised if the game loses it's structure; the Lions look very good at turning the game into a messy scrap where they benefit from that breakdown in structure and punish the ensuing mistakes by the opposition. But even so, the Sharks have far too much firepower and precision.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Mar 2014, 14:06
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04 Mar 2014, 14:06#4

"His strong carries in the face of a vicious Hurricane defence was vital to the win." 


Lets look at the stats as well-


Steyn 0/0 0 2/5/11 16 0 2 2 3 5/2 0/0 2 0/0


I don't often use rough language -  but your quoted statement is utter BULLSHIT.   His 11 carries amounted to a territory gain of 16 meters - made no line break - beat 2 defenders - lost possession of the ball 3 times and gave away two penalties.


How vital was it to the win - with no positive plays in evidence.   The one time he broke to tackles he passed the ball to Perenera.  He buggered up so badly at times that the Hurricanes nearly scored a try on one occasion hen he lost possession of the ball.   


Steyn can improve - but he must learn to play thinking rugby and not be a robot.       



ST
Sun-TzuClub Pro713 posts
04 Mar 2014, 14:13
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04 Mar 2014, 14:13#5
Michael, I often think you don't watch these games; that you sit in front of your computer screen panting like a naive puppy in wait for the stats to be updated. Then you shamble over to this place to preach the gospel of murkiness to us all.

Questions

  1. Did Frans get the ball going forward? Yes
  2. Was that momentum important in allowing the Sharks build any kind of movement? Yes
  3. Did Frans pressure the Canes on defence, at times affecting turnovers? Yes

You continually neglect to mention the Hurricane's intense imposition of their strategy in containing the outside backs. You neglect to mention how those turnovers were affected, at least one of them was the result of the Sharks not cleaning up quickly enough after Frans carried it over the gainline. You are notoriously deceitful and errant so I demand time stamps as evidence for your nonsense. More substance please.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Mar 2014, 14:35
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04 Mar 2014, 14:35#6

 Sub Tzu


The answers to your questions are in the main NO.  That is so if you look at the possession losses and penalties as well.   Besides that he died with the ball early and with minimal territory gain - so the next play was a maul and the Sharks had to start all over again.   No forward movement as a result. 


"You continually neglect to mention the Hurricane's intense imposition of their strategy in containing the outside backs"


There was no reason for your above statement - if there was a strategy - it was not in evidence - because the outside backs virtually never got the balls to show any evidence of such a strategy.   Marais got the balls a few ties from kicks and ran at them - but normally ended up in traffic and Mvovo scored an intercept try.  Other than that the outside backs never saw the ball - so where was the evidence of any such a strategy on the part of the Hurricanes?

ST
Sun-TzuClub Pro713 posts
04 Mar 2014, 14:55
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04 Mar 2014, 14:55#7
 "There was no reason for your above statement - if there was a strategy - it was not in evidence - because the outside backs virtually never got the balls to show any evidence of such a strategy."


CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Mar 2014, 15:02
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04 Mar 2014, 15:02#8

Sun Tzu


Stick to facts - forget about flowery words to describe non-existent performances - and logical discussions are  possible.  Otherwise you consistently make a fool of yourself.   

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