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Frans Steyn to Cheetahs confirmed

Started by Shezza27 REPLIES936 VIEWS· 12 Apr 2020, 18:04
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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
12 Apr 2020, 18:04
#1
12 Apr 2020, 18:04#1

He has signed for 2 years starting in July. 


Personally I like this, having Steyn and Pienaar at the Cheetahs is great even in the older age. Now if they could get an experienced forward or two they can really get a healthy squad. 

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,234 posts
12 Apr 2020, 18:46
#2
12 Apr 2020, 18:46#2
The Cheetas started the season well with some good attacking rugby. However they fell apart when they went overseas. 
It seems playing in over the December-February period makes weather conditions a major factor. The Northern hemisphere are not used to the heat of SA in Summer, and the SA are not used to the cold wt winter in the Northern Hemisphere in Jan/Feb when it is a mud bath. Even with the plastic fields, it is still terrible conditions. 
Different conditions require different tactics and players. 
Alhtough Steyn and Pienaar have the experience with both conditions, albeit both have lost some speed for a high tempo game. 
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
12 Apr 2020, 18:50
#3
12 Apr 2020, 18:50#3

You need to factor differing philosophies. South Hemisphere has been polluted by Australia's desire for a more linear game, in keeping with league. It's thus one dimensional, with poor fundamentals. The very loose game in the SH is not transferrable to the NH largely for stylistic reasons. Altitude is another advantage the Boks do possess, that, coupled with some hard grounds, makes for difficulty in competing on a level footing. I've read and heard complaints about the harder grounds feeling like running on concrete. It's interesting that these same SA sides don't react the same way to the wet and muddy conditions of New Zealand. 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
12 Apr 2020, 21:36
#4
12 Apr 2020, 21:36#4
At least it’s not to one of the Super rugby sides
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
12 Apr 2020, 23:39
#5
12 Apr 2020, 23:39#5

Hope he settles in and forget about serious rugby.  

SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
13 Apr 2020, 13:12
#6
13 Apr 2020, 13:12#6
He would have done a plugged a hole for the Stormers. 
Who knows, he could make the Lions tour as nobody quite fills the role with the 6/2 bench split like Frans...
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
13 Apr 2020, 14:26
#7
13 Apr 2020, 14:26#7
Bullshit he would plug no hole - he is past it, a has been
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
13 Apr 2020, 14:38
#8
13 Apr 2020, 14:38#8

Still better than Dud1. 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Apr 2020, 14:50
#9
13 Apr 2020, 14:50#9

I watched the June 2018 games against England.   Ibn the two games won De Allende played extremely well.   In the third game lost by the Springboks Esterhuizen was nowhere in sight,  All that happened was that players outpaced him and his defense was poor,  with near to zero attacking ability.  Not much better in the later tests in 2018 and no surprise he was completely out of the picture in 2019.   Steyn was taken as a cover and a dirt-tracker in the WC - passable in some games - but never of any real use,   

So the rugby braindead lives on in you.       

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Apr 2020, 14:50
#10
13 Apr 2020, 14:50#10

Duplication

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
13 Apr 2020, 14:56
#11
13 Apr 2020, 14:56#11

Damian played well against England? Really? Lets have ANOTHER look...



Moral of the story: Never use ESPN as the final authority on assessing performance. 

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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
13 Apr 2020, 15:17
#12
13 Apr 2020, 15:17#12
He would have done a job for them at 12.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
13 Apr 2020, 15:50
#13
13 Apr 2020, 15:50#13
No he would not he is past it and if they were not having to play Jamie Roberts, Baby Bok Rickus Pretorious would have been the obvious 12
SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
13 Apr 2020, 18:36
#14
13 Apr 2020, 18:36#14
Jamie Roberts was a shrewd move that the Stormers backline needed, and still do, with the experience he has. He put in decent shifts and even picked up a MOTM for his efforts, ignore his age and look what he does on the pitch. 
Rikus looked like dumb muscle in the JWC, the hype beforehand didn't match his performances and he's nowhere near starting in Super Rugby. He's the obvious choice because he's the only choice, had Dan Du Plessis not got injured then Rikus would have likely been shut out.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
13 Apr 2020, 23:12
#15
13 Apr 2020, 23:12#15
Fuck me you are absolutely clueless. Rickus was outstanding for the Baby Boks and is impressive enough that Jake White is after him for the Bulls Trust you to get this one wrong shock, shock. Jamie Roberts has been as average as they come for the Stormers - all he does is target contact and run straight into traffic Rickus Pretorious is pure class he has it all
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
14 Apr 2020, 00:43
#16
14 Apr 2020, 00:43#16

"X has been as average as they come for the Stormers -  all he does is target contact and run straight into traffic"



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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 Apr 2020, 12:19
#17
14 Apr 2020, 12:19#17
Let me guess Aug you think Roberts has been great for the Stormers shock shock Let’s hear it Roberts has been great for the Stormers while de Allende has been shit for the Boks!!! Come on dumbfuck spin us your rugby astute logic, I can’t wait!!!!!!
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ChippoPro3,372 posts
14 Apr 2020, 13:00
#18
14 Apr 2020, 13:00#18
Frans Steyn is an asset to any team.Well done to the Cheetahs for bringing him home.What wonderful news.I hope they make him captain.


SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 Apr 2020, 13:24
#19
14 Apr 2020, 13:24#19
No chip chip don’t sell us short make him president
CH
ChippoPro3,372 posts
14 Apr 2020, 13:59
#20
14 Apr 2020, 13:59#20

Ah Saf you legend.

He isn't black enough to be president.


I really dig the new you my bro.

No swearing at me etc... we can have a good laugh and discussion... and disagree where we need to.

In return, I promise to never speak about your mum.

SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
14 Apr 2020, 14:10
#21
14 Apr 2020, 14:10#21
Hold up, I thought Jake White was clueless too? We're all clueless! 
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 Apr 2020, 15:45
#22
14 Apr 2020, 15:45#22
No Shezza I just don’t salivate over average Jake like you lot do But you are right you are fucking clueless
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
14 Apr 2020, 16:13
#23
14 Apr 2020, 16:13#23

Saffy in his own mind...


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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
14 Apr 2020, 17:33
#24
14 Apr 2020, 17:33#24
You don't know what my opinion of Jake is... 
AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
14 Apr 2020, 19:32
#25
14 Apr 2020, 19:32#25

I find it amusing that the self-proclaimed expert who won't stand for "boring" rugby backs the ever "boring" Jose Erasmus. There are so many conflicts within these individuals, no wonder then that they are so miserable. 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Apr 2020, 22:21
#26
14 Apr 2020, 22:21#26

Was it Erasmus - The Coach of the Year in 2019 - with a Rugby WR Gold you referred to?  Tell me more than enough about the real coach we now have.   Fantastic Rugby - this was the third WR Final  the Springboks played in  No tries scored by either side in the first two Finals - in the third one the Springboks scored 2 fantastic tries.   Bloody impressive.   LOL .            

AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
15 Apr 2020, 14:10
#27
15 Apr 2020, 14:10#27

2015 to 2019: Over 1000 fewer carries. Skop 'n Pop rugby. What was the production of Pollard and Willie under Meyer and Rassie? What's that, Josè killed their talent? How funny. Wing particpation? Pass/run figures of the loose trio? You just can't make this stuff up. And despite an easier schedule, the figures are still frightfully low. Bottom of all top tier nations for attacking output. Chew on that Lügnerin! 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Apr 2020, 06:58
#28
16 Apr 2020, 06:58#28

LMAO

This guy is so idiotic he does no realize how bad he is,   Only he can reproduce stats he thinks work in favour of the shallow arguments he comes up with.   How real is the stats remain a question because h lied about everything he came up with   in the past,  LMAO.

This idiot things he can use stats - but when he lied and caught out by using real stats he is quiet on the issue,  a very real disgusting simpleton.  LMAO     

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