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French ref a concern for Boks

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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
10 Sept 2013, 21:39
#1
10 Sept 2013, 21:39#1

 Brenden Nel - SuperSport

2013-09-10 15:00

Cape Town - Richie McCaw may be out of Saturday’s Rugby Championship Test between the Springboks and All Blacks, but there is a concern about another breakdown influencer during the game.

According to the supersport.com website, Frenchman Romain Poite - who refereed the Boks’ win over Scotland in Nelspruit in June, has been appointed to handle the match.

Ireland's George Clancy was originally scheduled to be the man in the middle, but when Alain Rolland withdrew due to injury before the Brisbane Test last Saturday, Clancy stepped into the role and fulfilled his duties, with Welshman Nigel Owens flying in to be touch judge in the Boks 38-12 demolition of Australia.

The IRB decided on Poite as he was the next available referee and is highly regarded by the reffing selectors as he was also given one of the Test matches between the British and Irish Lions and Australia this year.

But it is the way that Poite reffed the breakdown against Scotland that has the Boks worried. Adaptability is the key in all respects when it comes to the whistleblowers, but it took the Boks almost an hour to adapt and ensure they got on top of Scotland in that game.

If the Boks take anywhere near that long this time around they will be in big trouble. Not only are the All Blacks the masters of the dark arts when it comes to the breakdown, but they are very effective as well.

What Scotland did in Nelspruit was take out the defender behind the ruck, opening up the gap for their halfbacks to attack. It was a ploy that should have been penalised severely but Poite let it go, confounding the Bok problems on the day.

The All Blacks are very experienced when it comes to taking up space beyond the ruck, and removing defending players, so the Boks will have to once again ensure they face the threat and put extra effort into protecting their ball if Poite is in the same mood this weekend.

But while the Boks will ultimately remind Poite of Nelspruit and hope he will make the breakdown a fair contest, they have a pretty solid argument for doing so.

Looking at the stats of the Brisbane win the Boks made 17 turnovers in the game, a massive 14 of which were at the breakdown. Two of those turnovers resulted in tries for Jean de Villiers and Willie le Roux.

More impressive from the stats was the defence, which saw Australia only make two line breaks in the game. The Bok tackle count was 115 and they tackled at a massive 93% success rate.

If they can replicate these statistics this weekend they may not have to worry about Poite, although the wish would be that like any referee, he be consistent, allow a contest and allow teams to get quick ball to play with.

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
10 Sept 2013, 21:51
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10 Sept 2013, 21:51#2

 Here we go again with concerns about the ref.

I wonder if I can tempt any Bok posters on this topic, lol. The mental image that comes to mind is: 

Perhaps we can we tempt Redsman? 

Take a deep breath & remember you can always sign up for anger management lessons before this weekend, there may still be a few slots available, lol

 

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
11 Sept 2013, 00:57
#3
11 Sept 2013, 00:57#3

Wow, 3 hours since this was posted & no response! Now that's anger management. Where's Beeno, he would not have been able to resist, lol

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
11 Sept 2013, 01:05
#4
11 Sept 2013, 01:05#4

That is a concern. Scotland were all over the boks at the breakdown.

 

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
11 Sept 2013, 01:11
#5
11 Sept 2013, 01:11#5

 Sharbok: You are right.

IMO that's why the players must adjust to the refs rulings in a game. It's not "cheating" but smart rugby. The Boks can & do do it but we will see how this all works out this weekend. The  old clique apllies, as long as the ref is consistent players can live with his rulings. Otherwise the game is a mess, players are frustrated and discipline goes.

RE
redsmanPro1,710 posts
12 Sept 2013, 08:45
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12 Sept 2013, 08:45#6
@justwin - finally got a bite. It does make you wonder how much say the kiwis have in appointing various refs. - Im sure there is much more to this all than what appears on the surface. Anyway he wasn't too bad in BIL game and doesn't have track record unlike - Bryce / Vinnie Munro / Jackson / and recent addition Joubert - so IMO this frenchy deserves a fair go - hopefully he is an undercover agent like those who sank the rainbow warrior...........
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
12 Sept 2013, 09:25
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12 Sept 2013, 09:25#7

 @Redsman: Remarkably restrained & Beeno1 is nowhere to be seen, lol  

Well Redman, you have not proctively created an alibi in the ref this time around so we will see how you explain the AB win this weekend :)

All Black by 7 is my prediction!!

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