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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Dec 2018, 07:00
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13 Dec 2018, 07:00#1

The following from News24:-


"A French teenager has passed away after suffering a heart attack while playing rugby at the weekend.

Nicolas Chauvin, 19, suffered the cardiac arrest while playing for the Stade Francais youth academy at Bordeaux-Begles, the Parisian club said on Wednesday.


The teenager also had surgery on a broken neck following Sunday's match.

Back-rower Chauvin was tackled in the fifth minute and his pulse was re-established by members of the emergency services on the field before he was taken to a local hospital.

This incident comes four months after the death of another young French rugby player, Louis Fajfrowski, who suffered a heart attack in the changing room after receiving a heavy tackle playing for Aurillac in a pre-season game."


And then we have members on site that is against serious action being taken against dangerous tackles because it will turn rugby into a "sissy game"  - or something similar as stated by AO - the biggest village idiot ever,


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Dec 2018, 07:07
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13 Dec 2018, 07:07#2
It's disgusting to turn this kid's death into an excuse to attack Augie....but not out of character.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Dec 2018, 07:13
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13 Dec 2018, 07:13#3

No Mozart

That never as the intention - it was merely to highlight what some idiots advertise on site - without regard to the well-being of rugby players.    Unless something is done to safeguard players this type of tragedy will continue.   

Are you ashamed of your own inputs concerning player safety?  



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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
13 Dec 2018, 07:17
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13 Dec 2018, 07:17#4

That never as the intention - it was merely to highlight what some idiots advertise on site - without regard to the well-being of rugby players.

The way it reads is It's not my intention but rather it is my intention to prove what Augie promotes.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Dec 2018, 09:51
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13 Dec 2018, 09:51#5

Denny

There recently was a discussion on the changes to the tackle rules and other matters in an effort to enhance player safety and some of us warn that player safety should be paramount in how the game si played, 

That was too much for AO and Mozart to take.   They totally ignored the argument and it was clear from their comments what they want is total disregard of player safety and was  factually inhuman in dealing with the issue.    For them they are not interested in the well-being of players. at all.

I thought this is a typical example of what dangers players are in fact exposed to and is a major reason for stricter control of danger on the field of play.

 I was actually very ashamed of their approach on site and hoped that they would see this as a reason why they are totally wrong in their approach.       

   

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kingcornPro3,695 posts
13 Dec 2018, 11:03
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13 Dec 2018, 11:03#6

It is absolutely tragic, that we have so many cases of players getting injured or even losing their lives. 

My thoughts are with their parents as I can't imagine what they are going through right now. 

I think that rugby players are way to big, as there body mass is way above the average BMI. 

I was listening to somebody on a pod cast a while back, but not sure who made the comment or if it was an article I read, but players are more at risk since they brought in the 7/8 player substitution rule. What this means is that you can have big lump of muscle running around the park and then just jank them off as soon as they get tired and replace them with another. 

Very few players with a heavy bulk has the endurance to last a whole match as your muscles is screaming for oxygen. 

So by not allowing so many substitutions means that players will have to be leaner, carrying less bulk and will have to have a better tackle technique. This also means that as players gets tired, more gaps will appear which will allow for a better game. 

I thought it made a lot of sense to do this.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Dec 2018, 16:39
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13 Dec 2018, 16:39#7
There are far more collisions in today's rugby, with forward phase play. A few generations ago the idea was to get it to the backline, where one on one tackling was usually low. If anything has changed, that's changed. I don't believe armless tackles are an issue....they occur all the time in American football. The only rule worth applying is neck and head contact, which covers clothesline tackles and head butts. But there is nothing more dangerous in rugby than pounding a fetcher with his head down overthe ball. We will see a test player with a broken neck because of that....but it's hard to see a solution. Mike your comments are a disgrace.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Dec 2018, 17:57
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13 Dec 2018, 17:57#8

You are still  carrying on in the same vein as you did before - yet my comments on your contribution and the even worse one of AO are now suddenly a disgrace,

No Mozart - your disregard for the safety of players is what si a disgrace.  

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Dec 2018, 18:43
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13 Dec 2018, 18:43#9
Okay be specific.....what exactly have I said that makes the case that I don't care about the safety of players. No general elusions.....be specific.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Dec 2018, 19:43
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13 Dec 2018, 19:43#10

Go back to the thread where the new tackling situation was discussed and see what you and especially wrote about the is sue.  

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Dec 2018, 22:17
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13 Dec 2018, 22:17#11
No you go back and find this evidence Poofter, you made the accusation, back it up.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Dec 2018, 01:43
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14 Dec 2018, 01:43#12
Nothing? Just another groot bek attack.
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
18 Dec 2018, 01:47
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18 Dec 2018, 01:47#13

Mike has no character or integrity, so this is to be expected. If you don't want to get hurt, don't play a contact sport. The basic principle of rugby is physical domination. How safe can oversized men smashing into each other be? Depower defence and there is no sport left to watch, just each team taking its turn to attack, which sounds identical to the rugby league Lügnerin claimed only an idiot would advocate. You can't traverse more than two syllables without finding your feet in your mouth. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Dec 2018, 02:50
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18 Dec 2018, 02:50#14

At least the idiot admits he is in favour of dangerous rugby and any rules to ensure that unnecessary dangerous rubbish is limited in the game must be attacked by you two.   

Why the hell do you two not start thinking before you write BS on site?      

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
18 Dec 2018, 03:11
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18 Dec 2018, 03:11#15

By disagreeing with me, you are promoting the abolition of upper body tackles. That's what World Rugby openly staged needed to go. Now, how does that affect the game when a crashballer can pound into the line and nobody can stop him? The game will become a very linear bash-fest. Every attempt to artificially manipulate the game to promote a specific style has backfired. Safety is just a foot in the door to further erode defence for "fun" carnival rugby. Superficial eye-candy for the casuals.

Next time, flank your feet with crackers. Variety is the spice of life.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Dec 2018, 03:32
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18 Dec 2018, 03:32#16

The idiot does not realize that neck high tackles are the main problem - nobody wants the chest high tackles eliminated.   So the idiot falsely said things he cannot prove as real. 

I wonmder who introduced crashballing as virtually the only function of  12's in SA rugby?       

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
18 Dec 2018, 07:07
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18 Dec 2018, 07:07#17
Nick Mallett with Pieter Muller.
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