Given the squad, my 23 would be
Dud Toit to lock….Dud Allende to flank.
No I just think he is a lock playing out of position, but there are better locks.
1 Ball carrier….he is average to poor.
2 Offloader, link player…average, possibly because of coaching.
3 Contest the ball on the deck….he is poor at that.
4 Participate in mauls….above average
5 Take some lineout….he should be good but mostly is average
6 Primary first phase defender….excellent, but that’s not true of defending in space
So we have a player who has cemented a brand image. Every time he makes a tackle it’s embellished with drivel about his engine from the commentators. It works. He had a poor game against France, but we never heard a word about it….goes against the given wisdom.
I think he is effective…but sporadically. Poor against France and England…he was very focused against the ABs and Barrett stupidly gave him a target. So he had a great, but narrow game. Did he make one turnover, did he beat one tackle….nope… but he almost matched Mostert’s tackle per minute productivity.
But the image is now an asset. The opponents are wary of the Dud. So should we replace him now? Probably not because there is no blindsider who has made a case. That doesn’t mean he is ticking all the boxes. He isn’t.
Moffie was just plain wrong again . . . just as he was wrong about Cheslin Kolbe, Andre Esterhuizen, Aphelele Fassi, Pieter-Steph du Toit and so many others. When this clown boasts about "sticking with Moz", just have a laugh.
He was anti Jaque Fourie for years...preferred AD Jacobs.
Moz, I don’t like being a gadfly, but your take on a few players is so bias, I can't help myself...not much difference in your opinion of the "duds" and Maaik's stance on AE.
Yes, anti-Jaque Fourie , anti-PSdT, anti Cheslin, anti-Fassi, anti-Esterhuizen and pro-Meyer Bosman!
LMAO!
Oh and to add to that, Moffie's idol was Marius Joubert who had one great test match against the Wallabies and forever after was a hand flapping, tackle-missing loser. One of the weakest #13s the Boks have ever fielded.
"Stick with Moz"
LMAO!
Well Joubert did get a hattrick vs the Allblacks, but although I liked the Joubert/Flekkie (sorry, it was De Wet Barry, I think ) paring at one stage, they were nothing compared to Jean/Jaque and DdA/Kriel-Am.
Robbie Fleck was another very hyped up #13 who could never stay on his feet.
Yes, Joubert got that hat trick of tries against the All Blacks but have you watched them? They were walk-ins. Tell me anything remarkable he does in one of those tries.
So all very interesting but my 6 point scale is more objective. As for Marius Joubert….30 tests/9 tries.
If Dud Allende was as productive he would have scored 25 tries he has scored 11.
If Am was as productive he would have scored 12 tries he has scored 7
If Kriel was as productive as Joubert he would hav e scored 18 tries in 60 tests. It took him 77.
And all of these players were in a much more successful Bok team. Marius was playing in the Destroyli disaster.
,….
So forgive me if I don’t think too much of (sic’s) take on Marius. As for Draad, he tries to be conciliatory. Admirable. But he chooses his allies poorly.
"Draad I thought you didn’t really like Rooinek?? But here you are teaming up with him, just to get at Moz?
Geez dude that’s quite false…."
I don't like the way Rooinek treat people...I also don't like the way Moz carries on about Rassie and his other pet hates...that doesn't mean I can't agree or disagree with either of them...it depends on how 'n view the facts at the time...I actually try to be truthful...and fair, regardless of who the posters are...
...and Moz, you know as well as I do that I will never have an alliance with Rudehole...too much water under the bridge...he's just wrong too much...and there's no alliance with Maaik, I just cut him a wee bit of slack for my own reasons...and I'm not asking for anyone's approval for it.
So no, M, I'm not false...I was actually factual, the fact that that I was in agreement with Rudehole is inconsequential...ask him, we're still not pals...and BTW, I also disagreed with his take on Joubert in that very discussion, if you look close enough...
Mpower
Erasmus is ot a good enugh coach and when it comes to Mozart he once bragged that he is the ebst player performance analyst in the world and that he never saw anything good of his petty hate players,
His hatred of Du Touit started 11 years ago when he supported the returned of Matfield from retiement - proving to be a real disaster - and som members suggested that a better move would be to use Du Toit instead, His hatred of De Allende followed soon aterwards. He also bragged that he enver see anything positive done by Du Toit and De Allende because he did bnot to see it, When challenged he lied about what happened in incidnts.
His comments on Erasmus can be summarized by his 2018 that SARU made a mitak by appointing Erasmus and they should rather retained Coetzee a Head Coach - since then his BS on Erasmus increased into a farce .
Draad I thought you didn’t really like Rooinek?? But here you are teaming up with him, just to get at Moz?
Geez dude that’s quite false….
Weird thing to say, MPower. Just because you agree with someone doesn't mean you're "teaming up" with them. You simply hold a similar opinion on an issue.
There's enough of the "you said this, so you are <insert group designation>" madness going around out there. Don't succumb to it.
PS...I have never intentionally insulted Moz or questioned his character...I question his opinion on certain issues.
Poor mampara power only criteria for commenting is whether he likes someone or not. Draad can't state Moz is wrong because that means Draad is supporting Rooitwit.
It's obvious poor Mampara is a terribly biased poster whose views of Rassie and Du Toit indicate he doesn't understand the hame.
Today his has become Mozzietards echo having replaced poor Doos.
Mampara is not haply with Rassie. Two RWC wins in a row. Aions series win. Two Rugby Championship wins etc make Mampara not happy about Rassie.
These two losers are hilarious. Imagine if they tried to post their drivel on any other South African Rugby website or indeed any rugby website. People would be astonished at their ignorance, I truths and bias.
HasBeen is all in on a Trump win….most anybody else says it can go either way. A mountain of egg awaits…hahaha.
Is Trump now a rugby player?
If anybody else was asking that question I would think it was rhetorical. In your case I’m not sure. So just in case, no, I don’t believe he is. He is in his late seventies after all.
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