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Given the squad my test 23 would be

Started by Saffolk 11 REPLIES844 VIEWS· 23 Oct 2021, 11:37
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
23 Oct 2021, 11:37
#1
23 Oct 2021, 11:37#1
The squad sells us short in terms of the best of the best but given the squad my 23 would be 15. Fassi 14. Nkosi 13. Am 12. de Allende 11. Kolbe 10. Pollard 9. Jantjies 1. Kitshoff 2. Marx 3. Nyakane 4. Etzebeth 5. Lood 6. Kolisi 7. Wiese 8. Vermeulen 16. Mbonambi 17. Ox 18. Thomas du Toit 19. Moerat 20. Kwagga 21. Reinach 22. Jantjies 23. Jessie Kriel
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Oct 2021, 17:10
#2
23 Oct 2021, 17:10#2

Agree in the main with you.  

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,230 posts
23 Oct 2021, 17:23
#3
23 Oct 2021, 17:23#3

Cheslin Kolbe is apparently out of the EOYT, with the same injury.
Along with Faff, Steph Dutoit, and Johan Goosen. 

Elton Janties has to be on the bench as a backup goal kicker, and also to bring an extra dimension to the backline attack if needed in the 2nd half. 

My guess is that Frans Steyn will get the nod on the bench because of his ability to cover multiple positions. His territorial kicking game lets the Boks play the game in the opposition half, and he is just getting used to making use of the 50/22 rule. 

Would be nice to see Fassi get more game time. Willie Leroux looks overplayed- maybe past it. 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Oct 2021, 17:35
#4
23 Oct 2021, 17:35#4

I have reservations about both  Steyn and Le Roux.   Both at full back are  questionable and with Jantjies on the bench - the multiple positions of Steyn include center where Nienaber and Erasmus agrees with  Plumtree  that he is not one and as wing he is too slow.        

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
23 Oct 2021, 18:08
#5
23 Oct 2021, 18:08#5
If Kolbe is out then in comes Mapimpi Jantjies has to be on the bench and I’d rather have Willemse or Jessie Kriel on the bench ahead of long past it Frans Willie has been in shit form - he needs a break and the very impressive Fassi needs a start at fullback We don’t have a true blindside in the squad which is stupid so I’d move Wiese there even though I’m not that impressed with him. He is ok - lacks brain matter. Vermeulen looks shot as well. Was great in the WC but has been average since his comeback. He might be past it Time to bring Dan du Preez on board with Evan Roos pushing him
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
23 Oct 2021, 18:36
#6
23 Oct 2021, 18:36#6

Wiese is our premier 8. The likelihood anyone surpassing what he produced this year is rather slim.

Willemse and Kriel are useless. Willemse is literally worse than Damian, which takes some doing. Trust Unteromlett to back a player who can go an entire test without doing one thing right! 

Kriel tries, but all he achieves is straining his face and neck like a stressed turtle.

Kwagga must start.

Esterhuizen must start.

If RG cannot be available we need van Rensburg. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Oct 2021, 18:47
#7
23 Oct 2021, 18:47#7

So I guess Harrassmiss isn’t a genius….I’m confused.

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SebPro2,680 posts
24 Oct 2021, 07:34
#8
24 Oct 2021, 07:34#8

No he is not a genius, just a very good coach, just like Eddie Jones who has his ups and downs, give coaches some leeway but in a wider context taking other factors into account.

Rugby fans tend to be very fickle at times and suffer from short memories. But judging from results of positioning at number 1 World Rugby Log says a lot...that's good enough logic for me, put it this way, a hell of a lot better than we were in the past for a long time.


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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
24 Oct 2021, 10:29
#9
24 Oct 2021, 10:29#9

Josè ia not a top tier coach. Don't ever compare him to Jones ever again. Jones made innovations in the game which turned it on its head. What has Josè ever done? What has Josè ever accomplished without Krutch? Everywhere he goes, they revert to a defensive approach founded on structure and emotion with a tightly scripted ball control game dominated by kicking. The only change over the yearsis the severity of the aimless kicking.

Lets be honest here: What would the Boks be ranked now if they hadn't accumulated double ranking points against minnows in the World Cup? That's the lifeline that keeps them 1, not quality rugby. They were ranked 6th before that run of minnows and are playing more like a 6th or worse team now. Don't kid yourself. We haven't played anything vaguely resembling good rugby once this entire season, to date. 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Oct 2021, 11:20
#10
24 Oct 2021, 11:20#10

Josè ia not a top tier coach. Don't ever compare him to Jones ever again

Now this delusional nutter thinks anybody is going to listen his commands. Bwahahhahahahahahahaha hilarious stuff from the nutter!

Rassie is of course a far better coach than Jones. Let me repeat - Rassie is a far better coach than Jones. In case you are in any doubt about what I am saying  Rassie is a far better coach than Jones.



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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
24 Oct 2021, 11:39
#11
24 Oct 2021, 11:39#11
José has never coached a team to any more than bottom of the pile for production. He relies on defensive solidity to bring better coached teams within striking distance of his kicking game. The entire spine of a José team has always been built from the ground up by Krutch. Until you understand and accept this, you will continue to lose each and every exchange with me. 
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Oct 2021, 14:50
#12
24 Oct 2021, 14:50#12

He coached a World Cup winning team scoring more tries in the series than ever before when it came to SA teams and  was  rated the  World Coach of the Year in 2017.   He when coaching Munster was in 2017 also the Guiness  Top 14 coach of the year.   Those honors are decided on by rugby experts and you are definitely a rugby moron.    How the hell do you dream up the BS you are repeating constantly on site?       

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