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Good Enough is Old Enough....wisely writes Keo

Started by Mozart14 REPLIES217 VIEWS· 29 Sept 2014, 16:13
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Sept 2014, 16:13
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29 Sept 2014, 16:13#1

The selection of hardened veterans has benefited the Springboks, writes MARK KEOHANE in Business Day newspaper.

The Springboks have never before had such balance in squad selections, when it comes to experience and youth. They have also never had such depth.

Springbok coach Heyneke Meyer, through intent and at times default, has exposed a new-look national team to the world over the last three years, but he has also ensured the best of the veterans have enjoyed consistent exposure as he works towards finalising a World Cup squad in which all 30 players are equally capable of starting in a World Cup play-off match.

The best of the 2011 World Cup Springboks are still around, with the experienced marauders playing a variety of roles within the squad. Some are still good enough to start, some provide greater impact with limited game time and in certain instances the value of the player is as much in the hands-on mentoring and tutoring of the next generation within a squad context.

Meyer, at some point since 2012, has picked an entirely new backline and introduced a group of loose forwards and locks to international rugby. He has also worked at the depth within the front row.

Meyer has refused to be restricted by age or geography. Good enough has always been old enough for the Bok coach.

Test rugby is not a young man’s game. It's a game about finding the balance between hardened veterans and youngsters who inject enthusiasm and ensure the older brigade never get comfortable or complacent.

Meyer has also recognised that Test rugby is a game played by 23 and no longer 15. The demands of the game are such that rarely do the 15 that start, ever finish a Test. There are those players whose value to the team is the damage they can cause in an impact capacity. These players are as crucial to the result as those who get to start.

The game is about 23 players and not a starting XV.

The strength of the All Blacks at the 2011 World Cup and in their 40 wins in their last 43 Tests has been the quality of players wearing numbers 16-23.

Significantly, this was the Springboks’ greatest weapon against Australia at Newlands. I don’t know of any current international side that could boast a forwards replacement bench that included Bismarck du Plessis, Bakkies Botha and Schalk Burger. Wow!

And did they provide the necessary impact when introduced in the last quarter.

Australian captain Michael Hooper acknowledged afterwards that his team was just not good enough to match the power, physicality and pace of the Springboks in the last quarter.

Burger was immense, Du Plessis contributed massively and Botha was huge in the muscle he gave to any collision.

Among the backs, halfbacks Cobus Reinach and Pat Lambie were equally potent on introduction and only the All Blacks can relate to a wing switch when one World Cup winner (in Bryan Habana) is replaced by another in JP Pietersen.

Jaque Fourie, Fourie du Preez, Frans Steyn, Ruan Pienaar, Francois Louw, Willem Alberts and Pieter-Steph du Toit are a contingent that, if fit, will go to the World Cup in England next year. None were available to play Australia in Cape Town.

There are others close to selection, of varying ages and experience.

The player depth is world class and the Boks, over three years, have improved in many areas, specifically at the ruck situation. The tactical kicking continues to be an ongoing project, as is the mindset to back themselves with ball in hand.

The Boks, at times, were predictable with ball in hand in the first 40 minutes as they attempted to play a game that focused on keeping the ball and working the phases.

They were lateral and often looked uncomfortable, especially when Hooper slowed down the recycled ball. The premeditated plan also made defending easier for the Wallabies, as their wingers were often up close in defence because they knew the Boks were not going to kick.

Handré Pollard, so comfortable on the ball and strong on attack when taking the ball flat, played to a pre-determined plan in the opening half, and while the Boks rarely threatened on attack, they did force the Wallabies to make tackles.

And the fatigue of having to tackle told in the final quarter when the Bok replacements dominated the tired legs and minds of those Wallabies who played through the 80 minutes.

The game of rugby is played over 80 minutes and what made the performance special was that the Boks played until the 80th minute and were ruthless in scoring two tries in the final four minutes to add a bonus point to the victory.

I don’t subscribe to the view that the last flourish flattered the victors. It’s not when you do the damage over the 80; it’s that the damage gets done.

Victor Matfield showed the tremendous value of experience. Forget that he is 37. Pollard was good. Forget that he is 20.

And Jean de Villiers, as captain, reminded everyone of his qualities as a leader and a player.

Age is not a factor – and it should never be. It’s more role definition, and in this particular match the role definition was accurate and those tasked with those roles did them to perfection.

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hakwaPro4,146 posts
29 Sept 2014, 16:28
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29 Sept 2014, 16:28#2
 This is not good at all Mozart, you continuing to exhibit such balanced views 
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Sept 2014, 16:36
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29 Sept 2014, 16:36#3

Geez Hakwa some planning for the future is necessary.....it's not yet clear whether Victor will make it to RWC19. Although with a brief sabbatical in 2016 and 2017 I'd say Bakkies, inexperienced as he may be, is a certainty.

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hakwaPro4,146 posts
29 Sept 2014, 16:39
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29 Sept 2014, 16:39#4
 you old stirrer you  
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
29 Sept 2014, 16:46
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29 Sept 2014, 16:46#5
Matfield has done NOTHING of note......an article from Keo......enough said......look up his WC side its a joke a minute......it has Danie Rossouw at 7 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Sept 2014, 17:00
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29 Sept 2014, 17:00#6
 Mozart
As kak prrat 'n siekte was - het jy die emmer geskop as gevolg van ebola.  
"The best of the 2011 World Cup Springboks are still around, with the experienced marauders playing a variety of roles within the squad. "   What were they best at in 2011 - they lost every competition they played in.  
" Burger was immense, Du Plessis contributed massively and Botha was huge in the muscle he gave to any collision."   What collissuions were they talking of here?  Botha was not invovled in anything of any importance.   Here is a stats for the circa 20 minutes he played shpwing nothing of substance.:-

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"I don’t subscribe to the view that the last flourish flattered the victors. It’s not when you do the damage over the 80; it’s that the damage gets done."  Keo ften writes BS - this is prpobably some of the worst I hae seen.   The Aussies were on the attack - despite the presence of Botha and Burger in two instances - where bruilliancce of serfomntein put pay to the efforts of the Aussies.   If the Aussies was on the defense - sure then there could be substance to his comments - byt they were not.

How wonderful that Mozart find enough BS to agree with.   And better says nothing about his idol Matfield - the weak.   That one is the cause of us strugglingin the Tight 5 and going nowhere fast.   Useless bugger.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Sept 2014, 18:11
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29 Sept 2014, 18:11#7
The brilliance of Serfontein....beating Horwell in space....hahaha. Nobody was more surprised than Steppie that he actually beat a tackle.....then he laboured up field. The lad is really slow, I'd hate to think what his 100 metre time is.  
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
29 Sept 2014, 19:07
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29 Sept 2014, 19:07#8

Moffie your anti players is really pathetic......Jan keeps proving you wrong week after week and its really irritating you....poor old boy.

 

It was a quality break......something Jean has not done all year  

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Sept 2014, 19:31
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29 Sept 2014, 19:31#9
 Im not anti players, actually I respect the challenges. But I'm also not a wide eyed groupie who thinks he is with it  by making lists of young players and vastly overrating their potential. Steppie is a very ordinary talent at senior level. He lacks pace and is no more than averagely strong. He tries hard, but effort alone is never a prescription for success. Dream on you gullible fat fool.
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
29 Sept 2014, 19:42
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29 Sept 2014, 19:42#10
I can't see Serf ever setting the test arena alight. Average pace, average strength, good tackler. The gap he took was well taken. We can talk about mismatches but fact is he still had to assess the situation in a split second and make the decision. Good on him for spotting and exploiting the opportunity, that's what many line breaks are about. Still, I don't see anything particularly special about him. Maybe he'll grow, maybe he'll fade. We'll see.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Sept 2014, 19:57
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29 Sept 2014, 19:57#11
 Mozart
If there is one thing yopu are - it is anti some players and prejuiced in favour of others.   In the process you make things up and produce utter rubbish as evidence.  When any of your favoured players flop - dead quiet ensues or their flops gets explaind away by false p[resentations of what actually happened.
I told you once ebfore the basis on which to assess players objectively - but you keep on doing the same prejudice and illogical jargon you used in the past.   Absolute crap.  
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Sept 2014, 20:27
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29 Sept 2014, 20:27#12
Players like Lomp? Let  me help you, everybody who makes it to the Bok team has credentials. Against weaker teams all these guys can be devastating. The trick is to project how they would be in a RWC final or playing the ABs. Call it prejudice if you like. 
But whereas you couldn't get past your prejudice to say Hougaard was ok on Saturday, I saw the positives in his play. That doesn't mean I believe he is the answer at 9...it simply reflects what happened on the day. It's the difference between somebody who is objective and somebody who allows his biases to rule his perception of reality.



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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
29 Sept 2014, 22:41
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29 Sept 2014, 22:41#13
 Moffie your take on Serfontein is laughable. Jean is the best 12 we have had in years. Serfontein is far better than Jean was at the same age. Lacks pace what utter rubbish. The kid has it all, great attacking skills and plenty of raw power. 
He will be a Bok great
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Sept 2014, 23:21
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29 Sept 2014, 23:21#14
I doubt it.  
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
29 Sept 2014, 23:32
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29 Sept 2014, 23:32#15
Well Jean only started making a test impact at the age of 23. Jan won his first Bok cap 2 months after his 20th birthday
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