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Good old Coetzee exposed

Started by Saffolk 14 REPLIES664 VIEWS· 13 Jun 2016, 14:09
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
13 Jun 2016, 14:09
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13 Jun 2016, 14:09#1

for being completely out of his depth. The Boks appeared to have no game plan at all, no direction and no leader on the field.


It was a clear case of a seasoned test coach making a fool of someone who has absolutely no idea


The Boks as a team were pathetic as a collective whole.....no blame can be levelled at individuals, it was just a pathetic team effort who clearly had no direction at all.


Faf had a reasonable debut is about all we can say


Pathetic all round

DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
13 Jun 2016, 14:18
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13 Jun 2016, 14:18#2
 "The Boks appeared to have no game plan at all.." Well yes and no....the game plan was to kick for territory
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
13 Jun 2016, 14:20
#3
13 Jun 2016, 14:20#3

Loved the interview with Coetzee before the game......all he kept going on about was #loverugby


Get a bloody grip and concentrate on how the game should be played


He was always going to be out of his depth but hell that was a disgrace


Schmidt must still be laughing  

DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
13 Jun 2016, 14:24
#4
13 Jun 2016, 14:24#4
The season of our discontent has started....Coetzee might even make HM achieve icon status...boys and gals, fasten your safety belts.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
13 Jun 2016, 14:38
#5
13 Jun 2016, 14:38#5
I actually think Meyer is a better coach than Coetzee, that's how bad this guy is going to be  
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
13 Jun 2016, 14:43
#6
13 Jun 2016, 14:43#6
The players we had on the field were easily good enough to be the better team, but one has to question our Captain and our Coach. Take NZ for example, they had a rubbish first half, but at half time they got their shart together, the leaders led, and they won the game. Scoreline at the end was a bit flattering, but the mental edge was clear to see. 
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Jun 2016, 14:44
#7
13 Jun 2016, 14:44#7
40% the coach.....60% the players. 
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
13 Jun 2016, 14:46
#8
13 Jun 2016, 14:46#8
 Strauss is out of his depth as the Bok captain......but then who else? Etzebeth?
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
13 Jun 2016, 14:51
#9
13 Jun 2016, 14:51#9

On paper the Bok side was mostly a good one, but there seemed to be no game plan, no pattern, no direction and clearly no leadership.


 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Jun 2016, 14:58
#10
13 Jun 2016, 14:58#10
Have to disagree ....on paper this was a poor team, especially in the backline.
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
13 Jun 2016, 15:02
#11
13 Jun 2016, 15:02#11
Exactly Saff, it was as though they had no plan...or maybe they did, and it failed....and there was no plan B.
As for what percentage of fault is to be allocated to whom. it is hard to allocate blame, but when a team lacks organisation, it is the job of the captain to sort it out. Strauss did not do that. However, the one thing that nobody has really commented on was our atrocious handling over all. We spilled possession again and again! I saw glimpses of the Strauli era on Saturday! 
I guess the one slight glimmer of hope, is that all the sides from the South looked very rusty. Lets face it, two weeks is not enough time for a team to gel. Especially when guys like Louw and Vermeulen only arrived a couple of days before the test. However, that said, Louw and Vermeulen have both been average all year, and if I were coach I would've started with Kriel, Whitely, and Jantjes just for continuity sake.   
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WardadPro6,663 posts
13 Jun 2016, 15:07
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13 Jun 2016, 15:07#12
 Bite the bullet ,hire Deans .Although he may have trouble learning your 3 part anthem alongside the other 2 in his head .Teleprompter ! Do I have to solve all your problems for you ? Next up we tackle endemic corruption using some string a paper cup and a thermo-nuclear device .
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
13 Jun 2016, 15:12
#13
13 Jun 2016, 15:12#13

Bullshit.....the backline bar JP and Mvovo was almost there. Jessie Kriel should have started at 13, for the simple reason he is a better player and has some test experience behind him. Our best wing in Combrink should also have started.


Jantjies should have started


The side was a good one but for the wings and looseforwards


My side would have been


15. Willie 14. Mapoe 13. Kriel 12. de Allende 11. Combrink 10. Jantjies 9. Faf 1. Kitshoff 2. Bismark 3. Malherbe 4. Etzebeth 5. Lood 6. Kriel 7. du Plessis 8. Whiteley


16. Marx 17. Nyakane 18. Marcel 19. PSDT 20. Kolisi 21. Groom 22. Lambie 23. Serf


Coetzee's side failed out wide and in the loosies.


Louw effected 1 turnover and Vermeulen fumbled and showed the average form he has in the WC and for Toulon


Coetzee selected a good squad but then failed to pick the inform players to start in Combrink, Kitshoff, Jaco Kriel, Whiteley  and Jantjies

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
14 Jun 2016, 14:38
#14
14 Jun 2016, 14:38#14
 no blame can be levelled at individuals

If only.

Hypothesis: there was no gameplan.

The lack of gameplan did not prevent the SA team from coming back at half time with a draw. To face a one man down Ireland squad.

Which is a configuration that professional players should be able to deal without the help of a specific gameplan hand made by their coach.

Except that the SA team was weighted down by half the players showing they do not have a professional level.

Pointless to discuss any kind of strategy when players cant catch a pass, cant collect a long kick, cant pick up a ball.
BL
BlikkiesPro1,526 posts
15 Jun 2016, 20:11
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15 Jun 2016, 20:11#15
 well, now let us see.First we have Stick as back line coach, who said that he is there to learn, but he can bring the discipline of the 7-Boks to the team ...DUH!!!. Then we have dear old Alister who was the chief back line coach ... A coach who Jake White rated as poor and brought in Eddie Jones to assist with the back line coaching.So, the end result should not be such a surprise.
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