MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
15 Sept 2017, 14:52#2
Well according to NZ Herald stats Foley had 7 in kicks in play.......Barrett had 15 in the second Oz test. Your writers seem to be living in a fantasy world JW.
JWJust_win
Captain18,570 posts
JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
15 Sept 2017, 17:21#3
Maybe Moz, I don't know what the average number of flyhalf kicks in a game is & that would be a better comparison. If this guy is right about AB coaches instructing players to not use elements of the game to polish and improve a specific set of skills it s ays a lot about the level the AB have reached. I thought this was what they did in the early rounds of the RWC. So it is not so far fetched.
ABABasquefan
Pro2,549 posts
15 Sept 2017, 21:11#4
the comparison btwin Barrett and Foley is probably not the best one,... on one hand because in the aussie team given Foley's inaccuracy with the boot, Beale takes great part of the tactical kicking responsability (e.g. in the last game Beale kicked more than Foley, 12-8),.... and because Barrett easily gives 4-5 cross or chip-kicks per game which obviously are not tactical,.... in fact, Barrett is IMO abusing of these attacking kicks lately,... that chip-kick in the last game against the argies when there were seconds remaining for the halftime that end up in an argies' try was a very clear example of it
1st Round 2nd R. 3rd R. Total
B. Barrett 15 11 13 39
All Blacks 20 16 25 61
B. Foley 7 9 8 24
Wallies 13 16 27 56
E. Jantjes 16 22 19 57
Boks 27 36 32 95
but if we consider the whole team's kicks, things are quite similar btwin AB and wallies,.... when the aussies are one of the teams that usually less uses the tactical kicks, they like to keep possession,... and when the AB usually kick a lot, sometimes even more than the boks
so, as you said JW, probably the article "is not so far fetched"
16 Sept 2017, 01:02#5
I think Hansen is deffo up to something ,prior to the last RWC the ABs were standing off in the rucks and using the bare minimum .That seemed to change once the RWC was on eh ? Plus they were playing in a deliberately out of position sort of manner in the pool games to generate some pressure on themselves .