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Goosen to leave SA for France

Started by Beeno111 REPLIES249 VIEWS· 30 May 2014, 12:45
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Beeno1
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30 May 2014, 12:45
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30 May 2014, 12:45#1


Cape Town - One of the biggest contracts in the history of Cheetahs rugby was not enough to keep Springbok flyhalf Johan Goosen in Bloemfontein.

The Cheetahs tried their best to keep the Springbok flyhalf but it appears he will leave to further his career at French club, Racing Metro.

The RMC Sport website on Thursday reported that the 21-year-old has signed a three-year deal with the Paris-based club.

Racing are expected to officially announce the signing next Monday.

It is believed that Goosen's decision to move was made easier by a massive offer from the French club. 

The Volksblad website reports that during his 36 months in Paris, Goosen will earn up to R7m more than what his salary increase at the Cheetahs would have been.

Goosen's contract with the Cheetahs expires on October 31 this year but he could be released earlier.

At Racing, Goosen will compete with Irish flyhalf Jonathan Sexton, who has played for the team since 2013.


One seriously has to wonder where we are heading. One cannot blame Goosen going for the cash as he is a professional. Rand is so weak the sums these guys earn overseas is astronomical.


They are able to lure away our players with ease. Very serious matter this. Add in quotas, bad rugby structures and we are really up against it

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30 May 2014, 17:22
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30 May 2014, 17:22#2
The Rand will get stronger when Chinese growth questions are resolved....as will the Aussie dollar. It could easily appreciate 20 per cent. Goosen might find the numbers were closer than he thought. Still, given his injuries, one can't blame a young man for wanting to secure his future. Good luck to him.  
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30 May 2014, 17:26
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30 May 2014, 17:26#3
As long as we keep selecting him as a Bok, I can live with him going to France.

Given his departure, he will be under pressure to leave a lasting impression this year at test level. For he is hardly an established Bok at this stage and come next season it will be a case of out of site out of mind, unless he sets the world alight in the tests this year.
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30 May 2014, 17:39
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30 May 2014, 17:39#4
 Dr Moz a request. Please let me know when you think the rand is going to strengthen.
Investment houses here are still betting on a long term decline in the rand. Advice is to be offshore rather than here. Overseas market also recovering after a big slump. Our market is high with a lot on problems looming. 
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30 May 2014, 18:45
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30 May 2014, 18:45#5

HasBeen by the time we figure it out 25% of the move will already have occurred. All these currencies...Australian, NZ, Brazilian, South African have been moving in a band. The Australian dollar for example went from a high close US $ 110 for Aus 100 to a low close to $ 90.

 

If one wanted to speculate Aus is a fair bet right now, close to the low of the recent historical trading range. But it all depends on China and the experts are divided. South Africa has specific risk beyond the broader currency issues...but it has also contracted more. I sold my CT house and converted into dollars at 7.6 Rand to the dollar. Not a bad move....but there was a time I could have paid only  R 6.2 to buy a dollar.

 

As a great currency trader once told me....mostly you lose on currencies but occasionaly you can make big gains. Right now I'm happiest in Norwegian Krone. It's a nice hedge against Russian problems.

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30 May 2014, 18:54
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30 May 2014, 18:54#6
 I took my nest egg off shore and last year and did very well as the Rand weakened and the overseas MARKETS WENT UP - A DOUBLE WHAMMY I just dont want the currency moving against me now. But as I said the view appears to be the rand will continue to be weak and could decline further and overseas markets will strengthen. Our market is at record levels with high PEs. Earnings growth is unlikely to change this. China apparently will have growth levels of some 7.5% but not as good as before.
States though look to be pulling out of their problems. 
Oh for a crystal ball.
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30 May 2014, 21:02
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30 May 2014, 21:02#7
With Sexton already there you would think they will look to play Goosen at fullback maybe? 
Could be another reason he found the offer so attractive.
I hope he has some good people around him to keep him focused and his head on straight - only 21, flush with cash, foreign country. Temptations and distractions aplenty.

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31 May 2014, 04:27
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31 May 2014, 04:27#8
 Given the halfwit treasurer we have who with the other dipshits has been talking down the Aussie economy the Aussie dollar is not a good bet atm .I really rated young Goosen ,the bok jumper obviously meant the world to him ,maybe to the point of affecting his debut .A pity he is so fragile tho'
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31 May 2014, 10:24
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31 May 2014, 10:24#9
 when one is playing Super 15 at under 19 one tends to be fragile. The idea that Goosen is fragile takes no account of his age. He seems to be going better this year.
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31 May 2014, 15:48
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31 May 2014, 15:48#10
 Even if the Rand appreciated by 100% it would still be worthless internationally.
At the moment 1 Rand = $0.11 USA dollars, so a 100% increase would be $0.22 dollars....still Monopoly money.

With the wildcat strikes taking place and the threat of further job action who in their right mind wants to get Rands for anything.
I just hope your numbers for Goosen are incorrect as I think he is worth a bit more.
Good move Goosen..........you owe the country nothing, do what everybody does and that is "LOOK AFTER YOURSELF"
Good luck fellow.
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31 May 2014, 16:30
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31 May 2014, 16:30#11
 AJ given what goes on here patriosim is at a low ebb. Folks thinking young players are going to wait around here hoping to play for the Boks when they can earn far more overseas are not thinking clearly. 
We cannot stop this massive player drain with the rand at 17.5 to the pound. If we dont pick our strongest side we shoot ouselves in the foot. It's that simple.
To buy one nz dollar we pay R8.86. Their currency is much stronger than ours.We pay 10 Rand for one Oz dollar! Hence it is easier for Oz and Nz to keep thgeir players at home.
I trust the oaks are seeing the picture more clearly.
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31 May 2014, 23:27
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31 May 2014, 23:27#12
 Beeno 1....don't hold your breath.

I will never happen, you know which guys I am referring to.
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