
sharkbok
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sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
07 Sept 2015, 22:57#2
Dagg is 31st in the world, yet he did not make a 31 man All Black world cup squad
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
07 Sept 2015, 23:12#4
McCaw at 1 is a joke says it all really
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Sept 2015, 23:16#5
Wot the best centre pairing since Solomon and David is not there?
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
07 Sept 2015, 23:21#6
Somehow doubt it given they have only played 3 or 4 tests to date. Much like the Skud from NZ....he is going to set the WC alight and is far better than the majority of the players on that list much like Jessie Kriel and de Allende are.
That list is a load of crap.....hell Matfield made it.....even Morne did......case closed
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Sept 2015, 23:31#7
Why dontcha make up your own top 100. Let's see Jantjies, Taute, Marcel van der Merwe Joke, Quince Roux, Stander, Jan Stepfontein....and van Wyk at centre.
Best player in the world JJ Englebrecht.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
07 Sept 2015, 23:37#8
My 100 would be a true 100.....not that sad excuse of a list.....imagine having 38 year old Vic in your top 100 world players when he is not good enough to make the SA top 100 and I mean that sincerely.......same applies to useless Morne
07 Sept 2015, 23:40#9
No takes on the All Blacks on the list? Is that also a joke or is it only the Saffers on the list?
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
07 Sept 2015, 23:59#10
Top 100 SA players in no definitive order:
1. Willie 2. Andries Coetzee 3. Taute 4. Kolbe 5. v/Wyk 6. Habana 7. Rhule 8. Sergal Petersen 9. Ulengo 10. Jordaan 11. JP 12. Sithole 13. Mjekevu 14. Senatla 15. Combrink 16. Pat Howard 17. de Allende 18. Frans Venter 19. Sadie 20. Vorster 21. Mnisi 22. Mapoe 23. Dries Swanepoel 24. Serfontein 25. Odendaal 26. Jessie Kriel 27. JJ 28. Esterhuizen 29. Frans Steyn 30. Heimar Williams 31. Tyler Fisher 32. P.v/d Walt 33. Visser 34. SP Marais 35. Coleman 36. Catrekillis 37. Pollard 38. Goosen 39. Lambie 40. Jantjies 41. Schoeman 42. Swiel 43. J. v/d Walt 44. Groom 45. v/Zyl 46. Faf 47. Hougaard 48. Paige 49. Reinach 50. Kebble 51. Kithoff 52. Malherbe 53. Koch 54. Wilco Louw 55. Coenie 56. Nyakane 57. Mellett 58. Marcel v/d Merwe 59. S.v/d Merwe 60. Beast 61. Jannie 62. T. du Toit 63. Scara 64. Mbonambi 65. Ackers 66. Coetzee 67. Visagie 68. Marx 69. Bismark 70. Strauss 71. Cooper 72. Etzebeth 73. Ruan Botha 74. Kleyn 75. PSDT 76. Willemse 77. RG Snyman 78. Jason Jenkins 79. Lewies 80. Carl Wegner 81. Mostert 82. Kolisi 83. Carr 84. Elstadt 85. Vermeulen 86. Rhodes 87. Brussouw 88. Cook 89. Jaco Kriel 90. Whiteley 91. Jacques du Plessis 92. Labs 93. Liebenberg 94. Arno Botha 95. CJ Stander 96. Mtembu 97. Coetzee 98. Oosthuizen 99. Kwagga 100. Oupa
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Sept 2015, 00:08#11
Geez Dave...now let's see your top 1000!
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Sept 2015, 00:10#12
Work with 50% of my list and we would be dominating the world game
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Sept 2015, 00:11#13
Juan Smith at 78......sums that list up

sharkbok
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sharkbokCaptain23,246 posts
08 Sept 2015, 00:24#14
Most of the hot Saffex 100 are not international standard players, with some not even SuperXV standard.
Many of those players will not be on the next list provided. watch this space.
Arno Botha would get injured watching a world cup match on tv. He is pumped up so much his knees can't hold his weight.
SP Marias is a curry cup player. He will not feature for the Sharks again
BObobbok...
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BObobbok...Captain10,129 posts
08 Sept 2015, 00:27#15
Not as strange as many of Dawie's selections, but there are some daft picks there .
08 Sept 2015, 00:27#16
Crikey....you actually had a Top 100, Saffex
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Sept 2015, 00:44#17
Shark in all seriousness what the F do you know about rugby anyway?
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Sept 2015, 00:45#18
Nope Becs I just compiled it there and then
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Sept 2015, 04:41#20
There are weird selections on that list as stated by Ceradunce and some really funny ones on Dave's list. But then this type of list is useless in a team sport and is really not based on team performance.
08 Sept 2015, 09:35#21
The P-word again........ If you look at the entire list, you would understand that the people who decided the list "looked very wide" when they decided on who goes where.
I am not saying that the list is 100% correct but unlike ou Dawie's thumbsuck effort, that he compiled there and then, it is clear that there went some serious thinking into it. Some of the descriptions:
98. Pat LambieUtility back [not flyhalf] blessed with talent. Can play fly-half, fullback and centre and made his international debut at No10 aged 20. Already has won 40 caps for the Springboks and doesn't turn 25 until October.
97. Morne SteynA points machine for South Africa, the fly-half, who moved to Stade Français in 2013, notched up the fastest 600 points for his country (in 50 Tests) and at 30 remains one of the best No10s on the planet. [Hehehehe]
93. Juan ImhoffArgentine paceman – happy on the wing or at full-back – scored four tries on his international debut, versus Chile in 2009. The ‘Rosario Rocket’, 26, was signed by Racing Métro in 2011 and has continued to sparkle.
90. Mathieu BastareaudThere is a sort of fascination with the sheer size of the man. A human wrecking ball, the Toulon centre is sometimes written off as a one-dimensional crash merchant but he has added to his game. Not at all easy to stop, Bastareaud sucks defenders in and opens gaps for others. [Some would only be looking at his stats and his line-breaks and defenders beaten in particular.]
78. Juan SmithA key player in South Africa’s 2007 World Cup-winning squad. But perhaps even more impressive was the blindside flanker’s comeback from an Achilles injury that initially saw him retire in 2013. Offered another chance by Toulon, he grabbed it, winning the Heineken Cup, the Top 14 and an international recall.
68. Agustin CreevyWorcester have embraced this Argentinian hooker, who happens to be so mobile he has played at openside flanker. Also possesses a tremendous offload which makes him one of the game’s most exciting forwards.
64. Niko MatawaluThe diminutive Fiji scrum-half has proved a huge hit with Glasgow and a move to Bath awaits. The Rec faithful are certain to take to Matawalu, with his darting runs and quick-fire service.
60. Mamuka GorgodzeThere cannot be many more terrifying sights on a rugby field than “Gorgodzilla” in full flight. After nine years of destruction with Montpellier, Toulon made the giant Georgian back row their latest galactico.
58. Fourie du PreezWould be far higher were it not for injury and choosing to play his rugby in Japan. The heartbeat of the side that won the 2007 World Cup and still the finest tactical scrum half on the planet.
57. Napolioni NalagaA Fijian giant with the feet of a ballerina. With momentum on his side, little can stop Clermont’s battering ram, which must be especially disconcerting when he comes into midfield. Toulon bound.
46 Victor MatfieldRetired from international rugby in 2011 only to return to the fray last year. The Springbok lock remains one of the finest lineout technicians, even if the 37-year-old body creaks more than it used to.
35 Marcos Ayerza The Argentinian prop was recently name-checked by retiring Wales prop Adam Jones as one of the toughest scrummagers he ever faced. A legend at Leicester, he has been tormenting front rows for Los Pumas since 2004.
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Sept 2015, 10:03#22
Ceradunce
Reading those comments on has to ask whether the writer has inherited the mental disability - so frequently displayed by you and Mozart to forget that it is not 2007 - but 2015.
08 Sept 2015, 10:06#23
Not writer....... Group that compiled the list.
But tell me............. what do you think about the All Blacks on the list?
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Sept 2015, 10:10#24
They are performing players - hence the successes they have in world rugby - so no problem with them. Unlike in our squad where performance was never a consideration, the NZ players have to PERFORM to be retained in their squad. Huge difference as to SA squad.
08 Sept 2015, 11:01#26
"They are performing players - hence the successes they have in world rugby - so no problem with them."
Whoosh....
08 Sept 2015, 12:25#27
"please Daddy whats a Taute ?"
AGAgPleezDeddy
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AGAgPleezDeddyClub Pro900 posts
08 Sept 2015, 15:49#28
Etzebeth = Retallick in my opinion, Retallick being more consistent whereas Etzebeth has the hi gher ceiling
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Sept 2015, 17:19#29
Give me Etzebeth over Retallick anyday......no contest
DBDbDraad
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DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
08 Sept 2015, 17:53#30
Lists like this is silly in the extreme. It would make more sense to pick the best 5 for each position and 5 X 5 best bench/utility players.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
29 Oct 2019, 15:39#32
Have to laugh at the fact that Richie McCaw is number one
Let’s face it, he was a good leader but a pretty average rugby player much like Martin Johnson
I am a huge Marcel Coetzee fan but he has not played nearly enough test rugby to merit inclusion and is a far better player now than he was when he played most of his test rugby