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Great debut for Pat Howard

Started by Saffolk 9 REPLIES287 VIEWS· 11 Aug 2013, 12:41
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SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
11 Aug 2013, 12:41
#1
11 Aug 2013, 12:41#1

Have always rated this kid and maintained he should have been playing S15 rugby a year ago. Great try and partnership with de Allende who was also very good.

 

WP need to find a tighthead and some locks with grunt. Ruan Botha is one option once back from injury, they need to find a 4.

 

Frik Kirsten and Morne Mellett were huge in the scrums under the new laws. I rate these two young props highly, in particular Kirsten at 3.

 

Great debut for Jacques du Plessis for the Bulls, this monster has Bok written all over him as a lock

 

 

MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
11 Aug 2013, 12:50
#2
11 Aug 2013, 12:50#2

how did kolbe go in the game and how was the referee???

surprised the stormers couldnt win this with so many of the bulls on Bok duty and injured, but griquas ensures its not the biggest upset of the CC round, infact given how close the lions were in beating the cheetahs, it was a round of unexpected results.

KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
11 Aug 2013, 13:01
#3
11 Aug 2013, 13:01#3

Have to agree Saffex, De Allende and Pat combined well. The bulls back was incredible, the completely destroyed WP tight 5, not sure if it was because they had light weight back rowers, but on evidence from the bulls is that with the new scrum laws you need some serious beef up front.

Kolbe was rubbish, don't rate him at all. Good little stepper but that is about it. Missed loads of tackle and got folded in half by the bulls 9 in a tackle. 

Why the bloody hell is Burton Claasens even in the team. Adds absolutely nothing. 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Aug 2013, 13:32
#4
11 Aug 2013, 13:32#4
Saffex Howard did well and the combination with De Allende - who had a top class performance wwhich helped Howard a lot - worked out very well. The Stormers problems were their tight five and their loosies were also poor. The result was that their backline saw very little in the form of good balls - buyt when they did they were good enough. Despite all the negatives normally written by you Van Aswegen provided a very good service to the backline and he also had a good performance. There was no questions about the backline performance of WP - other than with Kolbe - who should never be played in the 15 man game at all. He is better in the 7's. I rate Jacques Du Plessis as well - he had one particularly good run with ball in hand especially. However, in essence I believe he should play at lock and not at 7 so lets see how he develops in future.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
11 Aug 2013, 13:35
#5
11 Aug 2013, 13:35#5

 Kolbe looked like a boy playing a mans game. Got man handled.

 

This young Bulls side has players in it that are better than those on test duty or injured, so not surprised to see them do well.

 

The WP tightfive has no grunt other than Kitshoff, therein lies the problem

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Aug 2013, 13:45
#6
11 Aug 2013, 13:45#6
Saffex I am in agreement as to your latest remarks. What happened yesterday really showed how pathetic Meyer's squad is in fact. That type of thing is really harmful and I do not hold out much hope for the upcoming Championship.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
11 Aug 2013, 15:09
#7
11 Aug 2013, 15:09#7

 Kolbe is highly talented but needs to play scrummie. But to realise that the coach needs more than two lonely brain cells.

Yep with Bekker gone, Quin Roux history, Malherbe and Tiaan not there together with Vermuelen Burger and Francois Louw who is NOT coming back having signed for Bath and with Armand having left etc etc etc.I can find not a single reason why one would think one could build a top side with these goings on  - not to mention the bacjline talent squandered!

Ou maaaikie get the medication right. Meyer will introduce young talent at a decent pace. You and ou snapster seem to thing every promising youngster must bein the Bok team! No more bleatings please.

MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
11 Aug 2013, 16:13
#8
11 Aug 2013, 16:13#8

thats a bummer about kolbe,  could he imporove if was at fullback???

and how did the ref perform, i ask cos rasta is prob the best 7s ref in the world and want to know how he went with a 15 man game.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Aug 2013, 16:15
#9
11 Aug 2013, 16:15#9
Beeno Meyer buggered up badly with hyis squad selection - especially insofar as the following is c0oncerned:- * The foreihgn player mania where he select some of the worse players im,aginable; * His crazy se;lection of locks where he came up with 2 failures that did not perform last year and the same will happen this year. * His lunatic loosie selection - where he is adamant to play the two slowest loosies in the SH together in the team. I would like to see what he comes up as a team selected from that squad - it can only be hilarious and self-destructive. - so wait till you see how I deal with that after the team announcement. Then you really can accuse me of bleating but I still maintain Meyer is a dolt.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
12 Aug 2013, 01:45
#10
12 Aug 2013, 01:45#10

 Sas, playing Kolbe at 15 would have made no difference, he still would have been thrown around like a rag doll. He was not poor he just looked physically way out of his depth.

 

Rasta was damn good as a ref

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