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Great News for Mozart - the great Rugby geriatrics admirer

Started by clevermike16 REPLIES382 VIEWS· 01 Nov 2013, 02:50
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Nov 2013, 02:50
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01 Nov 2013, 02:50#1

Mattfield and Derick Hougaard is reportedly training to make a comeback for the Bulls in  Super 15.  Huge news and Mozart must be over the moon and will write the two straight into the Springbok squad.   After all Mattfield is only 36 years of age - and Hougaard is at the learner age of 30 - he should be just about the right age for the 2015 WC at 32.

 

And Mattfield is also exactly the right weight of 107 kgs for a lock.   He has speed and he could do defence where Albert is too slow to do so.   We have the added benefit if another center if Mattfield start playing again - Lock is just temporary - he is so excellent in backline attacking play. The ideal Mozart solution for the serious trouble we have in the lock position. 

 

And we will in Hougaard have another reliable goalkicker -  Morne in the starting line-op and Hougaard on the bench or vice versa.

 

Let Etzebeth and Du Toit wait for another 8  years - then they should be just right - also the right age a prescribed by the learned Mozart - for selection of the Springboks team .   

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
01 Nov 2013, 03:38
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01 Nov 2013, 03:38#2
I thought this was some type of sick joke but it appears to be true.


Liefling was always a crap one dimension kick and chase player, he makes Morne Steyn look like Dan Carter in his prime. Lieflings age is irrelevant other than he may now be worse than crap.


Matfield was past his best ages ago. He used to be one of the fastest forwards around the park, but time caught up with him. 
In this latter years he only became a lineout jumper and taker of kickoffs.
Occasionally he did still turn up in the backline to mess expansive play.
Although even just these 2 areas would make Matfield better than Juandre Kruger who was hopeless in the 4 nations especially in the last test where he was a joke in the lineouts and at kick off.
It could be a Percy Montgomery scenario of a player/coach, but not the first choice.
Matfield will probably still be the best lineout jumper in the world, and still good at the restarts but not sure if he can offer much more. Could be a good way to get him and early release from his Bulls contract.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Nov 2013, 05:48
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01 Nov 2013, 05:48#3
Well Liefling may not have been the best flyhalf on the planet. But anybody who got up with a smile after that viscious hit from Brian Lima is a rugger guy. He is a specific tool and will perform that function with total integrity.
Victor was simply the best lock we have seen in living memory, and my living memory spans many decades. Shame on the OOM for using this Bok great to make his snippy point.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Nov 2013, 08:12
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01 Nov 2013, 08:12#4

Mozart

 

I am surprised at you not screaming and jumping with joy about those two players.- why say WAS?   That indicates that they are past tense.   Why is Bakkies still your first choice lock and Mattfield not so anymore?

 

Really disappointed about that approach on your part.   However., I am of the same opinion as Sharkbok - in respect of all three mentioned players when he wrote -  "I thought this was some type of sick joke but it appears to be true."

 

 

 

BO
BoklogicPro1,978 posts
01 Nov 2013, 09:42
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01 Nov 2013, 09:42#5
 Where'd you read this Mike? I cant find anything on the net??
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
01 Nov 2013, 09:52
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01 Nov 2013, 09:52#6
 
Of course Matfield should be brought back into the Bok mix.

What's the issue?

He'll go prove himself again next year at the Bulls and then play as our starting 5 lock at the WC.

Meyer and Victor are great pals. This is a done deal. Accept it.

HouGat on the other hand was nothing special. He's just there to help out the desperate Bulls.
 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Nov 2013, 10:11
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01 Nov 2013, 10:11#7

Boklogic

 

Try News 24 - I read the article on DSTV - you may access it on the Supersport website.  

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
01 Nov 2013, 10:24
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01 Nov 2013, 10:24#8
What is impressive about this news (if it proves true & not another press stunt) is that players want to come back. Meyer has created a desire & even old farts want to get back in the game.
ABs will bring back Buck and Meads so no worries on that score, lol
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Nov 2013, 10:26
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01 Nov 2013, 10:26#9

Mozart & Cleancut

 

After sleeping  over the news - I woke up this morning in a desperate mood - the sinful nature of human beings are serious beyond description and I am desperately bad in that regard.   How can I - a sinful human being - be critical of Mattfield and McCaw.  I cannot believe my audacity.  Please New Zealand Rugby Fans I plead for your forgiveness.   Also Mozart - please help me in redeeming my sinful nature.

 

You Cleancut - should also have to learn - o eloquent one - that the mere suggestion that Meyer would select Mattfield based on their friendly relationship, is a crime against humanity - you should not have evil thoughts like that!!!   Repent - dear friend - repent, otherwise you will be reminded of that on a continuous basis and only misery on your part would result from such nasty thoughts.

 

I have sinned - please forgive me.

 

    

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
01 Nov 2013, 13:01
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01 Nov 2013, 13:01#10
 
Mike ... of course your forgiven ... not sure what you've done that warrants it ... (apart from driving me insane with your Alberts comments ... which I reckon a simple kick in the head and a good choke hold would appease me anyway) ... but if it makes you feel better then by all means ... consider yourself forgiven.

Of course I don't want the old coot back in the mix. We have the worlds best lock pair in Eben & PSDT and messing with that combo is utter madness.

Soooooo .... I too repent of my wickedness.  
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
01 Nov 2013, 13:10
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01 Nov 2013, 13:10#11
 Benden Nel, who wrote the article with the "news" has based his entire story on a remark that Victor has made in his column on the BMW site "recently". I had a quick look through his articles of this  year and unless I have missed something he did not say it in  any of his  articles this year. His most recent article on BMW was on 28 Sept.

http://bmw.co.za/springboks/Analysis/Archive/20130928/
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
01 Nov 2013, 14:17
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01 Nov 2013, 14:17#13
  Planetrugby quote the "Supersport" source which is the article by Brenden Nel on thier website. Nel is quoting Matfield's "recent" article in his column on the BMW website. I have checked Matfield's  articles and he does not mention anything. Nel also refers to seeing Matfield training with the Blue Bulls fitness coach. From that, he has deducted a return by Matfield, which of course is very convenient for a reporter to earn a few bucks again.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Nov 2013, 16:25
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01 Nov 2013, 16:25#14

Well this all turns out to be about as reliable as most  of the OOM's material. Dont believe a thing clevermike says, he has  a serendipitous acquaintance with the truth.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Nov 2013, 19:15
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01 Nov 2013, 19:15#15

Mozart

 

There was a newspaper article about the two players I have mentioned.   Am I now the sport editor for rugby - or are you  by ay chance?  I did not invent the bloody article - you stupid old coot.   In any event - go to the home page and you would find the article.

 

   

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
01 Nov 2013, 21:47
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01 Nov 2013, 21:47#16
Another article on the possibility of Victor Matfield  and Derick Hougaard playing rugby again.
  http://www.rugby365.com/article/56973-is-big-vic-on-the-way-back
They all point back to the same source though SuperSport SANZAR News Service.
No confirmation.
KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
01 Nov 2013, 21:57
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01 Nov 2013, 21:57#17
 Good for big Vic if he wants to help out the bulls, but please stay away from the boks. We have enough quality youngsters around that needs to be given valuable game time before the wc. Vic and bakkies had their time. Still plenty of time for the youngsters to get their caps.
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