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Gregor Paul: World Cup in S Africa is criminal

Started by Devil's Advocate17 REPLIES718 VIEWS· 08 Nov 2017, 08:42
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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
08 Nov 2017, 08:42
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08 Nov 2017, 08:42#1

Gregor Paul, A New Zealand sports writer doesn't believe South Africa should have any opportunity to host the upcoming world cup.


It also looks like Ireland are going to fight tooth and nail to ensure that we don't get it, as is their right.


The vote coming up very soon could go any way, so we are far from guaranteed to be hosting this WC.


His article is below

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It doesn't feel right that South Africa has been named as the preferred bidder to host the 2023 World Cup. The Rainbow Nation has only previously stacked as the choice of the rugby romantic who judges everything with the heart.


It seemed inevitable, though, that once the cold, steely eyes of the appointed bean counters had been asked to pore over the details of the three bids, South Africa was the one most likely to be knocked out of the ball park.


France, given the stability of its government and economy, its freakishly reliable transport network, sizeable and modern stadia and proximity to other key European markets seemed to be a sitter to win the preferred bidder status. Ireland, offering similar security, was fancied to be the second choice at the end of such a thorough, clinical process.


But somehow, against all the odds, South Africa is now in prime position to win the 2023 hosting rights after it scored the highest mark in the review.


South Africa has won heads when it was only ever supposed to win hearts, and legitimate questions now need to be asked about the evaluation process.


Certainly France and Ireland may want to know how a country which has more than 50 murders a day has been deemed a better potential host of the 2023 World Cup.


There are, according to official statistics, another 50 attempted murders every day in South Africa and almost 40,000 women raped annually.


Buried in the report was one line on this which stated that South Africa has, "a history of crime against the person", which would make it seem that World Rugby has failed to realise personal safety ranks as a major consideration for fans and teams.


The report was more concerned with legacy concepts, the quality of training grounds and drug testing procedures and may have overlooked the fact that supporters may not attach the same relevance to such matters when the odds of them being stabbed or shot are high.


And the problem with that is that with an estimated 30 million people living in poverty in South Africa, a significant number of foreign visitors will be required in 2023 if they are to successfully sell all the 2.9 million available match tickets. Such an alarming crime rate has the potential to keep thousands of would-be travellers at home.


For the web article, go here:


Gregor Paul

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,257 posts
08 Nov 2017, 11:49
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08 Nov 2017, 11:49#2
This is a good attention-grabbing headline. It has a double meaning to emphasize the amount of crime in SA.
I am very surprised that SA is the front-runner. The main reason is the political backdrop behind the selection of coaches and players.
By 2023 the quota/transformation selection might be around 70%- otherwise, SARU will probably end up in court. 
There is a big risk that strikes and bans- could derail the whole tournament. 
SA was also in a much better state in 1995 to host the tournament. 
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Nov 2017, 13:58
#3
08 Nov 2017, 13:58#3
Is there any history of fans attending rugby, cricket or soccer W Cups being at physical risk?
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
08 Nov 2017, 13:59
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08 Nov 2017, 13:59#4
Well, I have kept out of the politics related to quota selections but it's a bit much to have the RWC in a country that clearly is doing this. 
Let me make it clear though, I'm not supporting those on this board that are right wing white supremacist types or at least on that end of the political spectrum.
A good outcome is if those making the decisions on who gets the 2023 RWC made a statement against quota selections. I doubt very m uch that this will happen.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Nov 2017, 14:47
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08 Nov 2017, 14:47#5
Right wing supremacist types....who dat?
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
08 Nov 2017, 15:16
#6
08 Nov 2017, 15:16#6
 Yes who JW?
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
08 Nov 2017, 15:27
#7
08 Nov 2017, 15:27#7
 I rely on the honesty of those posters concerned to identify themselves if the feel so inclined.
Incidentally, has anyone heard from Beeno lately?
MO
MoonroverPro1,973 posts
08 Nov 2017, 16:18
#8
08 Nov 2017, 16:18#8
Typical New Zealand writer,scared of losing here again!
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
08 Nov 2017, 16:25
#9
08 Nov 2017, 16:25#9
 There are more choices than hard left and right wing white supremacy .
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
08 Nov 2017, 16:46
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08 Nov 2017, 16:46#10
DB, this I know as acknowledged in my post above. I also know that labels over simplify & unfairly characterize someone’s beliefs but I wanted to be clear about my own.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Nov 2017, 17:00
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08 Nov 2017, 17:00#11
No need, we all know how good you really are.
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
08 Nov 2017, 17:52
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08 Nov 2017, 17:52#12
 My moto: "Live and let live" 
I don't want to tell anyone what to do or how to live, but expect the same courtesy...not to be in the new world it seems. it's apparently a sin to be a white male in the new world. 
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
08 Nov 2017, 17:53
#13
08 Nov 2017, 17:53#13
 And apparently I'm racist for stating the above.
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
08 Nov 2017, 17:59
#14
08 Nov 2017, 17:59#14
 Apologies for the derail. 
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
08 Nov 2017, 18:13
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08 Nov 2017, 18:13#15
Not sure if you are a racist DB but your avatar shows you sure have it in for that black duck??
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
08 Nov 2017, 18:53
#16
08 Nov 2017, 18:53#16
 Ha ha, I'm not really from Tasmania!
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Nov 2017, 05:14
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09 Nov 2017, 05:14#17
 I think the most dangerous country to be a candidate is France bearing in mind the ISIS attacks over the last two years.    Remember the main attack was outside the Stade D'France during an international soccer game - so what will happen insofar as WC competitions are concerned.
MO
MoonroverPro1,973 posts
09 Nov 2017, 07:50
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09 Nov 2017, 07:50#18
 Excellent point Mike,now for the real juice:-  how can we have a world cup in an area where a personality cult exists.Who knows how many people will die if this maniac let's rip from N.Korea.Maybe we should make contingency plans for the next world cup here anyway.
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