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HANSEN: DON'T WRITE OFF NZ AND SA; Rugby 365

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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
21 Sept 2015, 18:34
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21 Sept 2015, 18:34#1

This is the view of All Black coach Steve Hansen.

But he is equally adamant his defending World Cup champions will have to improve their discipline after two of his most senior on-field architects - Richie McCaw and Conrad Smith - were yellow carded against Argentina.

He put New Zealand's struggle to overpower the South Americans, and South Africa's last gasp defeat by rugby minnows Japan, as opening match nerves - with both sides remaining serious contenders to make the final still six weeks away.

In a post-match review on Monday, a day after the All Blacks took until the last 20 minutes before getting on top of Argentina to win 26-16, Hansen remained upbeat about his side's chances of defending their world crown

"We got out of it exactly what we wanted. A tough contest, a challenge in some areas, some areas we've got to improve on, but the most important thing is we got a win."

He said no team should under-estimate the All Blacks on the basis of that Pool C match, nor South Africa after their shock 32-34 loss to Japan in Pool B

"It doesn't matter what they think. It would be very foolish for anyone to think that they could rock up and take South Africa lightly now because Japan's beaten them. It's irrelevant what happens game to game.

"It's what's happening in the game you're playing in at that moment. If you've got talent and ability to improve then it's a different beast you're going to get the next time you play.

"We've got talent and we've certainly got the ability to improve."

However, the All Blacks definitely need to play closer attention to discipline after conceding nine penalties, including two yellow-card offences.

"Clearly, the referees have a mandate to come down hard on things and you don't have to be a rocket scientist to know it's better to have 15 players on the park than 13 - like we did at one stage," Hansen said.

"Discipline is going to be important. We were fortunate we came through while those two guys were off."

Hansen described the opening weekend of the World Cup as "great" for the game with Japan's historic win inspiring other so-called second tier nations that rugby was not dominated by a handful of teams.

"What it does for the likes of the Uruguay and Namibia and those lower order teams is give them a change of mindset that 'we can compete if we prepare well'."

Hansen, a close friend of South African coach Heyneke Meyer, said that despite the Springboks loss they can still win their pool which also includes Scotland, Samoa and USA.

"It's not all lost and they still qualify if they get second. that's the beauty of pool play. It hurts more when it happens in the knockout stages because all you do then is go home, and it's all over and you don't get another chance.

"They'll get another chance. I'm sure they'll improve immensely because of it. They're they're a very good side."

The All Blacks next game is against Namibia on Thursday while South Africa have a break until Saturday when they play Samoa.

Agence France-Presse

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
21 Sept 2015, 18:37
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21 Sept 2015, 18:37#2
Hansen exercising his diplomatic skills but many other kiwis feel the same way.
BO
BokBFClub Pro421 posts
21 Sept 2015, 23:33
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21 Sept 2015, 23:33#3
Thanks JW. The coach an the squad are not changing and as much pain as I feel now the best we can do is get behind our team and stop whining. The time for rolling heads will be when they get home.
MO
MonsterBokClub Pro442 posts
22 Sept 2015, 03:18
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22 Sept 2015, 03:18#4
Thanks my Kiwi friends,Must admit I do feel a little better after Steve's kind words. The truth is time does heal and I do feel a little better than Sunday morning, Perth time.I've had time to cleanse, regroup and hope that we can salvage some pride come Saturday.
Steveie thank you very much for giving our little moron Meyer a cuddle after the game. Any chance you could come on board in a consultancy roll like Eddie in 07??
DE
DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
22 Sept 2015, 04:01
#5
22 Sept 2015, 04:01#5
 Meyer doesn't need Hansen or Jones. 
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Sept 2015, 04:25
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22 Sept 2015, 04:25#6
 The Stormers will have Jones as coach.  Meyer is not a coach's a r s e  - or perhaps he is - so to mention him in the same sentence as Hansen and Jones is an insult to them.  
MO
MonsterBokClub Pro442 posts
22 Sept 2015, 04:34
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22 Sept 2015, 04:34#7
He needs all the help he can get. The top two inches is just an empty space.  
DE
DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
22 Sept 2015, 04:38
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22 Sept 2015, 04:38#8
J ones is typically problematic as a head coach. He is well respected as a rugby genius but he can be poisonous as a head coach. That is the view shared by most Australians. Like Rassie, he works better under someone else who can apply his specific skills.
Agreed on your points about the rest.
MO
MonsterBokClub Pro442 posts
22 Sept 2015, 04:45
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22 Sept 2015, 04:45#9
Jones was certainly poisonous against the Sprinboks don't you think?  
DE
DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
22 Sept 2015, 04:49
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22 Sept 2015, 04:49#10
Japan is not a country with big name players. Furthermore Japan has a conformist society where the individual sacrifices his wants and needs for the team, b ut even then he has been criticized in Japan. In the SH where players have more power to stand up to you he has had problems. For Australia and the Reds, just as Mitchell had with the Force. 
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Sept 2015, 05:46
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22 Sept 2015, 05:46#11
 DF
You do not need big-name players to beat the blundering old big name farts they met on Saturday.   Slow and poor set of has-beens and never-has-beens will always be pressurised by a team like Japan.   
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
22 Sept 2015, 08:11
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22 Sept 2015, 08:11#12
 Fox, correct about Jones "poisonous" properrties. Mitchell had the same trouble at the Lions and the Sharks got rid of Jake because of this. Mallet is also known for his lack of...call it "people skills"  Gert small is also no kitten and the Stormers can do with discipline and I'm sure Gert will keep a close eye. Further, I think the Stormers are backing their structures to develop their own coaching staff. I see Eddie there to mentor Dobson and the others. That's why Plum was also only offered a 2 year deal. I'm sure they will look at an extension if all goes to plan, but with a revision in remuneration after 2 years. WP broke the piggy bank to get Jones here for 2 years. Best paid rugga coach in the countree ever. That's an investment in the future and bridging a gap in skills in short term without compromising quality...something not quite the Saffa way at all. A proper FH is also on the shopping list. After Goosen was ruled out, Marnitz is apparently the next target. Moz will have a fit! LOL. Then we also have Robert du Preez and Jean-Luc du Plessis coming through....and I liked the 2 centers that played against da Bools last Friday.Hopefully WP/Stormers can put everything together next year. Unfortunately Thormeulen is irreplaceable, but you can't have it all.
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