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Hansen: "Wallabies Are Favourites"

Started by Augenöffner14 REPLIES697 VIEWS· 08 Aug 2018, 02:07
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
08 Aug 2018, 02:07
#1
08 Aug 2018, 02:07#1

Interesting perspective from Hansen. The Wallabies haven't won back to back tests against New Zealand since 2001. They lost a test series to Ireland, were beaten by England and Scotland on tour last November. I think it's safe to say that New Zealand will win. Certainly, Australia's preparation for this test has been proactive and unique to past campaigns; I still cannot see past an All Black victory. 

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
08 Aug 2018, 03:18
#2
08 Aug 2018, 03:18#2

I guess he couldn't persuade the ref Beeno

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
08 Aug 2018, 03:18
#3
08 Aug 2018, 03:18#3

Hansen has a rye sense of humor and also likes to play games so who knows what he really thinks. My bet is he think s ABs will win but he wants to put pressure on them and he may experiment more then normal

WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
08 Aug 2018, 04:05
#4
08 Aug 2018, 04:05#4

Whiskey makes me more hilarious too JW....

AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
08 Aug 2018, 07:58
#5
08 Aug 2018, 07:58#5

Some interesting stats head-to-head:

In the past 10 tests, New Zealand have won 8 and lost 2. Scoring an average of 34 points to Australia's 20. New Zealand average 4.5 tries per test to Australia's 2.3. New Zealand lead Australia 45 tries to 23.

They've drawn twice in their last 50 tests, which goes all the way to 2000. In that time New Zealand have won 36 and lost 12. Scoring an average of 27.4 points per test to Australia's 18.4. New Zealand lead Australia 142 tries to 86. New Zealand averaging 3 to Australia's 1.7

New Zealand's longest win streak being 10 over those 50 tests, spanning the 2nd August 2008 to 11th September 2010. 

Their second longest win streak is 7, spanning 15th August 2015 to 26th August 2017.

Australia's longest win streak is 3, spanning 5th August 2000 to 1st September 2001. This is the only period in which Australia won back-to-back tests. 

Australia have conceded 40 points or more 8 times in their last 50 tests. Alarmingly, 6 of them have been in their last 15 tests! This goes back their opening loss of their first test against New Zealand in 2013. Defence has clearly been an issue, and that hasn't improved with changing of coaches. 

Even more alarmingly, they've conceded 40 points or more in all their first All Black tests of the season in 3 of the past 5 years. The exceptions being 2014 and 20 15, where they conceded 51 and 41 points respectively in the second encounter.

When all is said and done, Australia have a mountain to climb. 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Aug 2018, 10:14
#6
08 Aug 2018, 10:14#6

A way of Hansen to inspire the AB player suddenly makes headlines. We have read that type of thing many times and I really think it is cheap psychology.   I would be extremely surprised it the Wallabies win any tests against NZ and think the chances are about 5% if it does happen.   

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
08 Aug 2018, 10:37
#7
08 Aug 2018, 10:37#7

I'm sure the entire All Black squad know full well that the Ozzies are in for a hiding.

It's a stupid comment to make. 


BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
08 Aug 2018, 11:11
#8
08 Aug 2018, 11:11#8

Maybe the kbbs have got the ref sorted?

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Aug 2018, 11:13
#9
08 Aug 2018, 11:13#9

CC

The problem is exactly what you wrote - over-confidence by the AB players is one way that could lead to disaster and I think that is what Hansen is trying to combat/

Many teams and individual players have lost tests and games because of over-confidence and it often happen that players and teams deny being the favourites,   

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
08 Aug 2018, 11:42
#10
08 Aug 2018, 11:42#10

Thing is Mike ... they're not so gullible as to believe his stupid comment.

These are adult men he's talking to ... not foolish children.

He could have gone about it in a different manner.


JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
08 Aug 2018, 16:49
#11
08 Aug 2018, 16:49#11
Oz has improved from a disastrous low. At the super rugby level their losing streak against kiwi teams was really bad & not good for getting bums on seats. Hansen will be experimenting & oz will go all out for win because they need it bad. It will make it interesting— as usual.
AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
08 Aug 2018, 20:17
#12
08 Aug 2018, 20:17#12

Can they shore up that defence? As we saw in the Super rugby final, against a team that had all the tools, the New Zealanders really can pile those points up. Australia don't have much grunt up front than the Lions. We haven't seen anything close to the traditional Aussie attack power either. I think this team has too many holes. If Australia win, it's most likely to be a result of New Zealand not showing up, or experiments. Experiments like 2011, which effectively handed them the Tri Nations title in what was a hollow victory. Only to be put back in their place in the World Cup when New Zealand were not messing around with fanciful but impractical ideas. 

XA
XaviPro1,924 posts
08 Aug 2018, 22:30
#13
08 Aug 2018, 22:30#13

I think it's just lip service from Hanson for Aussie media in the build up. 

Behind closed doors the All Blacks already know when,where and how they'll pull the trigger on the Aussies, the Jags and us for that matter.


CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
10 Aug 2018, 12:10
#14
10 Aug 2018, 12:10#14

Oh really ... ?

Lip service, huh?

Wow ... did you come up with that all by yourself?


AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
10 Aug 2018, 12:31
#15
10 Aug 2018, 12:31#15

He didn't claim to make a profound statement, just a mere comment on what was considered an eyebrow raising statement by Hansen himself. A bit jumpy today, aren't we? 

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