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Heroes of the past

Started by DbDraad17 REPLIES908 VIEWS· 10 Apr 2018, 17:47
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Apr 2018, 17:47
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10 Apr 2018, 17:47#1

Okey Geffin


moolaa's remark about Syd Nomis in the "Fergie McCormick" thread made me Google Syd...and I got side tracked into a bit about Okey Geffin....BOY, what a classic character! Please read the part about his time in the WW II POW camp. Bokke has got some BIG characters...I'm sure other countries too. Douglas Bader springs to mind for the Poms.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Apr 2018, 17:58
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10 Apr 2018, 17:58#2
How about Victor Matfield?
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Apr 2018, 18:09
#3
10 Apr 2018, 18:09#3

Moz, Vic is old, but not that old...I can't recall him being a POW at any stage of his career, never mind in WWII .

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Apr 2018, 18:12
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10 Apr 2018, 18:12#4
What do you think Kamp Staaldraad was Draad....Victor is a victim as well!
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Apr 2018, 18:13
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10 Apr 2018, 18:13#5


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CeradynePro9,374 posts
10 Apr 2018, 20:30
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10 Apr 2018, 20:30#6
@Draad. Douglas Bader...... what a character. I saw Reach for the Sky when I was a boy and was really fascinated. I was too young to even understand that it was a true story and based on the life of a real pilot. Little did I know that I would one day live around the corner from where he had his crash and even be treated in the same hospital where he was treated after his accident, ie the Royal Berkshire Hospital. There is a little aviation museum in some of the old hangers of the airfield in Woodley where he had the accident. There is also a Bader road in Woodley. http://museumofberkshireaviation.co.uk/ They dedicated and episode of It’s My Life to him. It was interesting to see that he was a big mate of SA golfing hero Bobby Locke. https://youtu.be/4408_DJOu3I
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Apr 2018, 21:31
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10 Apr 2018, 21:31#7

Vlag, I can't find anything on the web, but I seem to recall from the book that he either played or was sellected for, but never played flyhalf for England. "Reach for the Sky" was a prescribed English novel in grade 9. After a way in, I realised it was one of the movies my dad showed us with a projector, pre VHS. I was amazed that it was a true story. Legend.

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
10 Apr 2018, 22:15
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10 Apr 2018, 22:15#8
Draad, I don’t think that he played very representative rugby of note. I know that h was a cricket player but once again, I don’t think at a very high level. He surely did play golf. I’m not to sure if he started playing before his accident but I know that he played after that as soon as he had his prosthetics. He was a gritty bastard and as soon as anybody told him that something was impossible, his first goal was to prove him wrong. When they failed him the first time to start flying again he told them that there is no way that anybody is going to stop him just because he had no legs. Let alone being one of they main players on the Battle of Britain. The same thing went for golf.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Apr 2018, 22:29
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10 Apr 2018, 22:29#9

Ja, I know there's nothing on the net about his rugby, but there's not much on the net pre WWII outside of mainstream media. Ive got a memory like an elephant and I recall something like that. I guess I'll have to read the book again. 


PS...as I recall from the book, he started golf agter he lost his legs.

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
10 Apr 2018, 22:52
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10 Apr 2018, 22:52#10
I actually just checked on Wikipedia. He tried for Harlequins but never played. “Fellow RAF night fighter and bomber pilots Guy Gibson and Adrian Warburton also attended the school.[16] In later life, Bader was deemed to be so good that he was invited to play a trial (or friendly game) with the Harlequins, but it is not clear whether he actually played.[17]”
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Apr 2018, 00:57
#11
11 Apr 2018, 00:57#11
Think he was more of a cricketer.....and played golf off single digits with his metal legs. Reach for the Sky, the Dam Busters and Sink the Bismarck are the peak of Brit WW2 movies.
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WardadPro6,663 posts
11 Apr 2018, 08:02
#12
11 Apr 2018, 08:02#12

All you Saffas should know one of my heroes [ and not just for his war record] Sailor Malan.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
11 Apr 2018, 18:41
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11 Apr 2018, 18:41#13

Wow, 35 kills!

Pat Pattle had at least 41, but he was KIA in 1941.

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WardadPro6,663 posts
13 Apr 2018, 00:05
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13 Apr 2018, 00:05#14

Sailor Malan fought against apartheid and for other WW2 veterans post war ,a thoroughly decent man and brave as all get out.Moz indeed those are some great movies and I saw them all as a kid ,633 Mosquito squadron was pretty groovy team ,reminds me of the Isreali "film producer " who borrowed some mosquitos to make a movie then buggered off to Isreal with them !

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Apr 2018, 02:36
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13 Apr 2018, 02:36#15
Mosquito, hell of a plane......made out of wood can you believe!
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WardadPro6,663 posts
13 Apr 2018, 07:20
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13 Apr 2018, 07:20#16

"The wooden wonder " 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
13 Apr 2018, 17:15
#17
13 Apr 2018, 17:15#17

WD, I saw the part of him fighting against apartheid...and the reason he got out of that fight too. I did not know about it before you dropped his name. He seemed to be a good man with backbone and the balls to back it up. Thanks for bringing it up....PS, there was another Adolph Mal an in SA history.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
13 Apr 2018, 17:17
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13 Apr 2018, 17:17#18

Adolph Malan in SA rugby.

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