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Heyneke you beauty says Tank

Started by Beeno117 REPLIES223 VIEWS· 14 Aug 2014, 12:15
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
14 Aug 2014, 12:15
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14 Aug 2014, 12:15#1

Ex Sport 24


Heyneke Meyer, you little beauty! The team announced on Wednesday to take on Argentina at Loftus on Saturday is an absolute cracker! 

And no, it is not only the departure of poor old Coenie Oosthuizen as the back-up tighthead prop that excites me.

There are plenty of clever selections, starting with keeping Handre Pollard at flyhalf, benching Eben Etzebeth rather than starting him, and keeping returning skipper Jean de Villiers at 12, but yes, those six men making up the front row for Saturday look so much more balanced.

Gone are Oosthuizen, who was being asked to play in a position he cannot do justice to at Super Rugby level, and Gurthro Steenkamp, a journeyman plying his trade overseas (Please Note Dr Moz). In come Trevor Nyakane as back-up to Beast, and Frans Malherbe as back-up to Jannie. No convoluted reasoning, just a simple and clear path for two young specialist props making their way in international rugby. It seems so simple and obvious.(Not to our Dr Mozzzzz although i have concerns re Trevor I must say)

Pollard is the future of South African rugby – of that I have no doubt. This is a brave call from Meyer, and one that I hope speaks to the kind of game the Boks hope to one day play more regularly – one that relies less on chasing box kicks, and more one using the width of the field with ball in hand.

Scrumhalf was always going to be a tricky selection given the non-availability of Fourie du Preez, and one cannot really fault sticking with next in line Ruan Pienaar, despite his inability to carry his form in Ireland into the Bok environment (Mistake by Meyer) . There is a school of thought that this would have been an ideal opportunity (against the Pumas rather than the All Blacks or Aussies) to blood young Cobus Reinach, and that does make sense (Of course it does). But that would have been a massive call from a coach already pushing his naturally conservative envelope! (Exactly so and what I said too)

It must have been really tempting end the Juan Smith Cinderella story with a trip to the ball, but he has just arrived in SA and not been part of the Bok mix for a while. Willem Alberts does need a good game though, and perhaps the pressure from Smith will ignite the bone collector’s fuse. With Bakkies Botha, Lood de Jager and Etzebeth in the engine room, Meyer could well look at a more rangy 7 that links instead of bashes, a role for which Smith is purpose built. (My point exactly)

But with those 4 chunks of Baobab in the pack, together with Bismarck du Plessis and Duane Vermeulen, who needs rangy link men? Expect the blunt force trauma approach to continue! (Will it work on the High Veldt against the Wobblies).


In closing the, a quick comment on Jurie Roux’s reappointment as CEO of SARU, which happened on Wednesday via a unanimous vote from all 14 member unions that make up the SARU General Council. The very same General Council that forced Roux to demand a sixth team in Super Rugby because they could not agree on any other way to accommodate the Kings. The point being that they do not often all agree with each other.

Yet they were unanimous on this. And this despite allegations of fraud relating to activities at Stellenbosch University during the time of Roux’s employment there. In fact, SARU president Oregan Hoskins went as far as to renege on a confidentiality agreement with Maties in order to show Roux a forensic report which implicated him in the alleged fraud. This to allow his CEO to explain the allegations, and facilitate an informed discussion at SARU's executive committee.

And based on that discussion, SARU were happy to reappoint Roux, who has been a quite outstanding CEO of SARU since his appointment in 2000.

I have spoken at length to Roux about what went on at Maties while he was running the show, and as a solid human being who seeks out only what is best for South African rugby (within some particularly outrageous mandates from his General Council), I am choosing to believe his version of events.(AGREED)

Allegations abound in the press, yet still there is no formal charge against Roux. I am finding the man innocent until someone can prove otherwise. (AGREED)


Tank is a former Western Province tighthead prop who now heads up Tankman Media, and sprouts forth on all things rugby on the Front Row Grunt.


NOT BAD THINKING FROM TANK. MOSTLY AGREES WITH BEENO!!!

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
14 Aug 2014, 15:36
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14 Aug 2014, 15:36#2
 Ou Tank, like a few others that I can think of, is a bit of a hypocrite.

He says that it is "a cracker" of a team. He rejoice in the absence of Gurthro who he says is a journeyman pying his trade overseas. But hang on, what about the other journeymen in the "cracker" of a team?

My 2p on this is that you either exclude all overseas players or you do not exclude any of them from playing for the Boks.

Just so the ill-informed take note as well........ I am not saying that Gurtho should, or should not have been in the team. It is about the hypocrisy about overseas players.
GT
Gonzo the GreatClub Pro560 posts
14 Aug 2014, 17:46
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14 Aug 2014, 17:46#3
 tanks comments on ball-in-hnd rugby are stupid i think he is just another fat retard lthat cant do anymore than talk kak to his ja brous round the braai.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Aug 2014, 17:58
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14 Aug 2014, 17:58#4
So few of these rugby scribes can get beyond their biases. I haven't been a long term Gurthro fan, but in the absence of a power loosehead his experience and scrumming ability come into the mix. Not since the Beast dominated the Lions scrum in the first test in 2009 has a Bok loosehead scrummed in as dominating fashion as  Gurthro did against Wales. We so rarely get loosehead dominance and it changes the whole scrumming equation. Choosing Nyakane is at best a quota decision....but  what else is new?
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
14 Aug 2014, 18:12
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14 Aug 2014, 18:12#5
 
Waaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

I knew you would go off sulking cause an elderly hasbeen was dumped for young blood.

There's no room for the old any more, Soft Cock.

Accept it.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Aug 2014, 18:23
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14 Aug 2014, 18:23#6
Oh I accept it....can you accept baldness, incontinence and early impotence?  
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Aug 2014, 18:29
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14 Aug 2014, 18:29#7
 B onzo the Ape
The comments of "ball-in-hand rugby are stupid".  What is more stupid is donkey kick possession away every time you get the ball.   When in the opposition half of the field -and especially in the 22 pin point scoring opportunities kicking is fine -  all other kicking in the opposition half is crazy bullshit.   Ask dear Morne and Fransie  why they do not realize that?        
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Aug 2014, 18:29
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14 Aug 2014, 18:29#8
 B onzo the Ape
The comments of "ball-in-hand rugby are stupid".  What is more stupid is donkey kick possession away every time you get the ball.   When in the opposition half of the field -and especially in the 22 pin point scoring opportunities kicking is fine -  all other kicking in the opposition half is crazy bullshit.   Ask dear Morne and Fransie  why they do not realize that?        
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Gonzo the GreatClub Pro560 posts
15 Aug 2014, 01:56
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15 Aug 2014, 01:56#9
 clevarMika, mornr does not kick all our all away our tactical kicks come mainly from our 9s its been that way for years and years. so go ahead and back lardy tank and look a fool. whats new though.
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
15 Aug 2014, 02:02
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15 Aug 2014, 02:02#10
 No man, Gonzo. Why stuff up a nice argument with facts?
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Aug 2014, 11:58
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15 Aug 2014, 11:58#11
 Bonzo the Ape
I mentioned Morne and Francois Steyn because they are guilty as hell insofar aimless kicking is concerned.   Penaar is equally guilty   Problem is we are cursed with a multitude of thinkless inside backs who cannot read games.
Ceradunce
You will never realize what facts are if they hit you in the face.   The moron of tis site - that' s you.   
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
15 Aug 2014, 12:24
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15 Aug 2014, 12:24#12
 
clevermike

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August 15, 2014, 09:58:11  Bonzo the Ape
I mentioned Morne and Francois Steyn because they are guilty as hell insofar aimless kicking is concerned.   Penaar is equally guilty   Problem is we are cursed with a multitude of thinkless inside backs who cannot read games.
Ceradunce
You will never realize what facts are if they hit you in the face.   The moron of tis site - that's you.  
Earlier this week you said that you already rated Pollard two years ago - FACT

Two years ago, you said that Pollard was crap - FACT



DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
15 Aug 2014, 13:51
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15 Aug 2014, 13:51#13

Eina !!

 

Is dit waar Mikey?  

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Aug 2014, 14:02
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15 Aug 2014, 14:02#14
 Ceramroron
Go back to the 2012 JWC and you will find complimentary comments from both Saffex and myself on Pollard.  He was out of sight last year and came back into notice for the fisrt time this year - when the Stade Francais Reject was not there anymore to block him from public view. 
Looking at him at present he has shown massive progress from 2012 onwards.   Being out of the influence of the Reject - he has developed - whicxh the Reject has never done.
You are indeed to be pitied.     
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
15 Aug 2014, 14:08
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15 Aug 2014, 14:08#15
Mike the problem has been if its not Pienaar kicking its Steyn. So between them they appear to kick more than what the game warrants. That has also been because of the ineffctiveness of the backine. However the backline is improving and to me looks like it is at least as good as the kiwis if not better if Meyer selects correctly.Reinach faster andmore dangerous then Smith.Polalrd  more dangerous than wee crude and 10 times better on defence witha  huge boot etc.Jean at least as good as nonu if not better. Allende miles ahead of conrad. Habana as good if not better than SaveaHendricks faster and better than wee carol janeWillie better than Ben Smith.
So individually no problem. Now Meyer as got ot get them playing as a team.

The big point is you dont want two half backs who dont take on the opposition. Hence the big step up with Pollard. Add in Reinach and you now have a serious headache for the opposition loosies. These two are dangers on attack. 
Its really just a question of correct selections and getting the guys to play smart.
Get in a fast loosie like Kriel etc and watch these guys go. 
Meyer needs to understand how to implement his vision of playing a faster tempo game.
The pace ofthe tight five is fine. Its the loosies that need adjusting.
Beeno always willing to help! 

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
15 Aug 2014, 14:10
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15 Aug 2014, 14:10#16
 DA returns 
DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
15 Aug 2014, 15:47
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15 Aug 2014, 15:47#17

Ít's your top lip that  you are smelling Beeno

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
15 Aug 2014, 16:07
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15 Aug 2014, 16:07#18
Tank is one of the worst writers out there, he is bloody useless  
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