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OleCruzRookie44 posts
01 Jul 2013, 21:32
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01 Jul 2013, 21:32#1

Hey guys! Sorry for going MIA (twice in a row now)!

You probably forgot me. I used to be Cruz, from Argentina.

2012 and 2013 have been immense for me in so many ways that it kind of overwhelmed me in the end.

I'm looking forward to debating some more with you lot. I'll have more free time now (moving to NZ soon) so let's hope I can sustain the habit of posting regularly.

Totsiens!

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Jul 2013, 19:09
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02 Jul 2013, 19:09#2
Cruz I was very worried about your disappearance from the sit and on a number of occasions asked questions about what have happened to you. First of all welcome back. Secondly you initially went silent because of your examination obligations - how did it go insofar as that is concerned. Are you still going on in your rugby career? Does your father still owns a holiday home in Clifton? The Rugby Championship is starting within the next month or two. I noticed that Argentina did not do well in the June tests - but I understand also that they did not use their top players in the tests. Come now give us some update on whats going on.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Jul 2013, 19:09
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02 Jul 2013, 19:09#3
Cruz I was very worried about your disappearance from the sit and on a number of occasions asked questions about what have happened to you. First of all welcome back. Secondly you initially went silent because of your examination obligations - how did it go insofar as that is concerned. Are you still going on in your rugby career? Does your father still owns a holiday home in Clifton? The Rugby Championship is starting within the next month or two. I noticed that Argentina did not do well in the June tests - but I understand also that they did not use their top players in the tests. Come now give us some update on whats going on.
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OleCruzRookie44 posts
03 Jul 2013, 03:25
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03 Jul 2013, 03:25#4

Mike

 

Thanks mate. I am not used to posting in Forums so the habit kind of goes away after a while (short while, I'll admit!). But this time I intend to stick around.

 

My exams went pretty well! Thanks for asking. I am indeed furthering my career as player. I was called to the U20 squad and had the immense pleasure of playing the JWC, which was a marvellous experience. A massive step for me as I finally faced top notch opposition. I think I did a good job overall, but "good" does not cut it. I now know in depth what areas of my game I need to improve. I'm moving to NZ soon as I have been contracted by a franchise there, with the intention of being groomed for a future competition. It will be quite hard as said team is full of outstanding players, so getting actual game time is a bit far fetched short term. But my main goal is to embrace the special training NZ has to offer, especially with regards to the individual skills the guys there learn from a very young age.

 

Yep, my Dad spends several months a year in Clifton. I want to drop by and catch a few Stormers games, or maybe WP games. Love 'em.

 

Indeed, Los Pumas did not do well at all during the tests. But such an outcome was bound to happen if we analyse the situation. 21 of Argentina's best players were forced to skip the international window, since the contract forces them to have a 4 week vacation prior to undertaking the physical preparations in Pensacola. As a direct result, the players called up were third-stringers, with most of them having experienced Vodacom Cup Rugby as the highest echelon in their Rugby careers. The ones that do play in France were in really poor form, and it showed. On the other hand, the English "rookies" had plenty of Premiership experience, so the difference was bound to be notable. Even then, I think some areas of the game ought to have been better. I am very critic of Phelan's tenure and I feel Los Pumas are horribly undercoached. They could do with a Super Rugby coach (which is exactly what is being pursued right now). Some of the names that are being toyed with are: Graham Henry, Jamie Joseph (highly unlikely due to his poor season with the Highlanders), the Waratahs' Michael Cheika (coached Leinster and Stade Francais, where he became really close to several Argie key players and authorities), and John Kirwan. There are some local names in the mix as well, such as Mario Ledesma, and Gonzalo Quesada.

 

 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Jul 2013, 07:15
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03 Jul 2013, 07:15#5
Cruz Congrats on everything you wrote. I am delighted by the news - especially about the exam outcomes and the Under 20 WC selection, as well as your contract with a New Zealand franchise. Which one did you sign with - if I am not too inquisitive? Would want to watch your progress on senior level and hope to see you going through to represent Argentina in future - since your playing in the UWC meant you cannot represent any other country on test level.
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
03 Jul 2013, 14:44
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03 Jul 2013, 14:44#6
Welcome back Cruz, one of our best international posters!! This time you have to stick around man!
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OleCruzRookie44 posts
03 Jul 2013, 15:51
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03 Jul 2013, 15:51#7

Thanks guys!

 

Mike -- I signed with the Chiefs. I kick off my training sessions next Tuesday. The coaches' intention is to have me undergo an intense training period in which they will focus on improving my individual skills, as well as embracing their defensive and offensive patterns. If all goes well, then I will have the chance to be among the 30 players named to take on the 2014 season.

 

In the last months I made the decision to form myself as a lock forward. Tighthead or loosehead -- I don't care. I believe locks nowadays should be able to unfold an all-round game. I wore #5 to the JWC. The PlAR (Plan de Alto Rendimiento / High Performance Plan) really helped me get fit for professional Rugby.

 

A couple guys from our U20 squad were added to the Senior squad that is currently training in Pensacola for the Rugby Championship -- Pablo Matera and Matías Díaz. Watch out for Matera. He has all the potential to become a world class openside flanker.

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bluebokPro3,977 posts
03 Jul 2013, 17:04
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03 Jul 2013, 17:04#8
If you don't mind, what is your real name, so that I can keep an eye out for you? If privacy is an issue, then no stress. Either way, congrats on signing for the Chiefs, that is awesome man!
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OleCruzRookie44 posts
03 Jul 2013, 17:10
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03 Jul 2013, 17:10#9

Bluebok -- No worries mate! My real name is Tomas Lavanini.

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IhiClub Pro201 posts
03 Jul 2013, 17:25
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03 Jul 2013, 17:25#10

Wow an actual puma right here! very exciting to hear about your progress. new zealand need the locks and you sound really powerful. i read about you before i never knew we had anyone here from argentina! all the best mate. hope to be seeing you in the rugby championship.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Jul 2013, 18:03
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03 Jul 2013, 18:03#11
Cruz Sasue is going to hate me for this - but the Chiefs locks are nothing to write home about - so I think you have a real chance of some game time sooner than you might think. Good luck and hope you succeed.
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
03 Jul 2013, 18:42
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03 Jul 2013, 18:42#12
Well Cruz, I think it is fair to say you already have a couple of fans here, and I look forward to your success at the Chiefs. Hopefully we'll see you playing Super Rugby in South Africa sooner rather than later. From my point of view, it is fantastic to be able to read the comments of a current player. Especially a player from another country. It offers a unique insight into all things rugby. As I mentioned earlier, I hope you find the time to comment here for many years to come, regardless of what level of success you achieve.
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oimateyPro1,870 posts
03 Jul 2013, 19:42
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03 Jul 2013, 19:42#13

 Cruz thats awesome , what an opportunity - good luck mate ! We're all in your corner.

 

I am sure you will learn and be exposed to a lot with the Chiefs who seem to be a quality organization. Smart move at a young age. Hope you get plenty of playing time. Give it your best shot, keep your nose clean and good things will happen - you only live once !

 

Pretty jealous, I must admit :)

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generaltitPro3,164 posts
04 Jul 2013, 14:05
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04 Jul 2013, 14:05#14

Welcome to this forum Ole...such an honour having a budding Puma here. Hopefully  you will get all the good experience in NZ and go back and play for your wonderful country. The Pumas have always had a good relationship with SA rugby...the great Hugo Porta impressed me as a very young man...I rate him as probably one of the best flyhalves ever. Incidentally unknown to most, the Argentinians beat the Springboks in Bloem many years ago...they were not called Pumas but Jaguars (simply because Argentina were not the only participants...Uruguay, Chile and other S American countries were included) although technically in the test at Bloem they were all Argentinians if my memory is correct...so technically it was Argentina. Sadly rugby posts keep mum about this...I think the Jaquars also beat the All Blacks...but because of the difference in name Puma/Jaguar it does not record a win.

Visited your country in my youth...went to Bariloche in the Andes, for the trout fishing in the mid seventies...absolutely stunning beauty and the best beef steaks in the world from the Pampas...Devons, Herefords and Short Horns. BA is a beautiful city with beautiful old colonial styled Spanish buildings. The most gorgeous looking girls in the world.

Wish you the best young man, in NZ...hope to see you soon appearing for the Chiefs.

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
04 Jul 2013, 14:36
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04 Jul 2013, 14:36#15

Ole, Ole Cruz .... you're now my favourite Argie player ! Hey, Argentinians don't mind being called that , do they ? Thought I'd check, apparently Pakistanis don't like their abbrevation .

 

Good luck amigo !

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
04 Jul 2013, 15:00
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04 Jul 2013, 15:00#16
Argentina´s impressive performances at the 2013 IRB Junior World Championship in France have already seen thrtee forwards have their futures crafted. Both backrower Pablo Matera and tighthead prop Matías Díaz are a part of the senior side for the 2013 Rugby Championship while backrower Facundo Isa has signed a two year contract to play for Heineken Ccup champions Toulon. All three performed well in the IRB Junior World Championship as did a number of backs while one player singled out as a potential Pumas secondrwoer in the making was Tomás Lavanini.    Having impressed at the tournament Lavanini subsequently visited New Zealand where he is right now. He was in attendance on Friday evening to see the Super Rugby match between the 2012 champions the Chiefs and the Hurricanes in Hamilton. The venue is of interest to Argentina due to it being where New Zealand will host the South Americans in the 2013 Rugby Championship. Lavanini´s visit, however, had nothing to do with the competition. Instead he was there as a recent arrival to have joined the Chiefs Super Rugby Academy. As such he is expected to not play for Hindu at all this season and instead has a foot into the door to play Super Rugby.   The Hindu youngster has not only talent but the necessary height and weight which too many international secondrowers lack. Aged only 20, Lavanini weights 118Kg and stands 2 metres tall. By way of comparison Patricio Albacete is the same height and at 32 years of age he weighs 122Kg. The taller Manuel Carizza stands at 2.02m in height and weighs the same as Lavanini. The third specialist secondrower in Argentina´s squad for the Rugby Championship is Mariano Galarza. The 2013 Los Pampas XV captain is the tallest at 2.03m in height and wieghs 115Kg. The squad also has Julio Farías Cabello who played November 2012 in the position has been seelcted for the 2013 Rugby Championship as a secondrower. The Tucumán enforcer ia 1.94m tall and weighs 110Kg. Lavanini, in other words, has natural factors to support his highly skillful game.    Before playing in the 2013 IRB Junior World Championship Lavanini played test rugby. He played two matches in the South American Championship, taking on Brazil and Uruguay. He also impressed for Argentina against South Africa in the historic series win over the Baby Boks and at the IRB Junior World Championship Lavanini recieved game time against all of Los Pumitas´ opponents - Scotland, Samoa, Wales, Australia and France.    Well great to have you back Thomas and we shall be cheering from the stands. One quibble I have is why go to nz and the chiefs to learn forward play!!! Also you do know that SIr John and Sir Grahman were schooled by master Jake - the man the Argies should target!  
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OleCruzRookie44 posts
04 Jul 2013, 15:42
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04 Jul 2013, 15:42#17

Thanks for the nice words guys!

 

Whoever wrote that article -- I owe you some money! Hehe.

 

Bluebok -- thanks mate. Will make sure to share some of my current and future experiences with you guys. There's always something to learn out there.

 

oimatey -- Thanks! Indeed the Chiefs are massively organised and from a technical point of view, they work like a Swiss watch. I don't think a single day will go down without me having learnt something from these amazingly talented people.

 

sebastienchabal -- My dream is to represent Argentina. To contribute to the National team, whaever my role may be. I'd be happy to sweep the floors in the changing room if that helped them. Argentina is such a beautiful place. Bariloche, man! Lovely place. Perfect weather, fresh air... lots of asado, wine, and criollos hojaldrados con manteca! :D

 

Blobbok -- No worries mate. I refer to myself as an Argie when speaking English. Some people don't like it but that has more to do with the Falklands War than with any sort of personal aggression.

 

Beeno -- Hehe, you funny man. I've always admired Jake White. Not only is he a technical genius, he has great organisational skills. I love what he did with the Brumbies. Not only did he improve them from a technical and tactical front, but he also made them believe in themselves to carry out their game with vigorous guile and intent.

 

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generaltitPro3,164 posts
04 Jul 2013, 18:11
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04 Jul 2013, 18:11#18

 

Bariloche, man! Lovely place. Perfect weather, fresh air... lots of asado, wine, and criollos hojaldrados con manteca! :D Indeed this was just a touch. Beautiful huge rainbow trout with Gaucho guides in the most clear and pristine rivers in the world...even better than NZ and Alaska. Incidentally...your old man has a pod at Clifton...I used to live there...the last cottage on the left as you go down onto Third Beach...called "Hideaway"...we used to rent it from a Jewish doctor in Johannesburg for R280 per month...can you believe this...it had a condition on the lease that we had to evacuate during the Christmas Holidays...what a pleasure anyway because I used to disappear into the mountains of Basutoland (Lesotho) in pursuit of rainbow and brown trout ... a wind blown shack then but in paradise...even got well known film stars there after an afternoon at Royal Cape Yacht club during a shoot break...wicked old days which really I'm not proud of anymore...life is not pretentious...but yes, it's all down in life...Clifton was a crayfish sanctuary ...we used to dive in the evenings (before sunset) and nab 50 to 100 kreef quiet easily...had kreef braais...kept the surplus and traded beef rumps with the residue with Aubrey Farber at Farbers meat market in Observatory...the best rump in town from our Jewish friend...a change in diet...we never spent money on meat.  
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