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Hostile kiwi media attacking Bulls

Started by redsman21 REPLIES533 VIEWS· 20 Jul 2012, 10:18
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redsmanPro1,710 posts
20 Jul 2012, 10:18
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20 Jul 2012, 10:18#1

I just read a report that the kiwi media has launched an assualt against the Bulls team re matter of eye gouging allegations against crusader players in last encounter @ loftus.

I dont have the inside scoop on the Bulls players but I cant see why they would resort to this type of allegation unless they had some credibility.

Typically the 'cheating bleating' crusaders have used this as ammunition for a hostile media attack on the bulls - stating their innocence and saying the allegations were false - futhermore fuelling the hostility against the visiting team...

Isnt this just another example of the extremes the kiwis and their media go to to put visiting teams off to ensure there teams have favourable outcomes. I refer also to the kiwi assualt against Quade prior to RWC last year.

What a disgraceful bunch of small minded morons that run this country's media and frankly are beyond all sportsmanship - as much as they feign the opposite.

For the record I hope the Bulls cause the upset and for Peyper to stick it to the crusaders and their season is over....

I would nearly get as much pleasure from watching them lose as I would watching reds win.............

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
20 Jul 2012, 11:05
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20 Jul 2012, 11:05#2

Redsman I think the kiwis are getting nervous and so as they become unstable their behaviour degenerates.

Look when you engage with guys like Hakwa, Sitting bull, Sasue and even ou Brycy (of the toothy grin) one finds them decent guys so one wonders why kiwis cheat like this - I am becoming puzzled.

On an individual basis they seem fine as one encounters them - bit confused on rugby issues but nothing sinister. Perhaps we have been lucky? Or perhaps by rubbing shoulders with honest folk like us they, by osmosis as it were, up their game. I am tactfully not dwelling on Hakwa's fanciful obsession with my Katie.Hehehehe

 

BL
bluebokPro3,977 posts
20 Jul 2012, 11:29
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20 Jul 2012, 11:29#3

You are right Red, every time a big game comes up involving the AB's or one of their teams, the NZ media starts with this type of crap.

CA
carpetmuncherPro1,667 posts
20 Jul 2012, 11:53
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20 Jul 2012, 11:53#4

my hate for NZ media cant really be measured. there one eyed reporting and coverup of there rugby is well known.

i personally would love it if the bulls pitch up on the park and decide to play some rugby. i just dont know how mentally strong they are that is the biggest issue. i agree redsman i love any NZ team losing. after they cheated there way to the RWC i have no remorse or respect for there rugby anymore. all the best for all the teams excluding the crusaders and chiefs hope you all watch the final from your TV's

LU
ludwigRookie26 posts
20 Jul 2012, 13:36
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20 Jul 2012, 13:36#5

My dear south african and aussie comrades. Enough of the cheating allegations. Learn to respect your masters. The truth shall release you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w80NJZd8g8I

PS My favourite bit is at 3.05

PPS It sounds better with headphones on

 

 

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
20 Jul 2012, 14:08
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20 Jul 2012, 14:08#6

My dear Ludwig that avatar of yours is making me feel unwell - could you kindly find another one?

Also reflect on the fact three SA sides are in the last 6. What happened?

KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
20 Jul 2012, 14:19
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20 Jul 2012, 14:19#7

 It is a well know fact that the NZ player play to the edge of the laws. For many this is not good sportman ship. I have played with a couple kiwi players in the past and even had a kiwi coach. The coach wanted us all to cut ourselves so that we can pick the scab during a game and get a blood substitute. 

But what can you expect from a country that only has one sport. 

I just wish they would pick up on all the off the ball stuff and root it out of the game. The Franks brothers are the master of this. The amount of time the antaginises players. 

The bulls should just rock up and blow them off the park. 

CA
carpetmuncherPro1,667 posts
20 Jul 2012, 15:38
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20 Jul 2012, 15:38#8

if the bulls and just get rid of the mindset of trying to employ the conservative gameplan of trying to out kick the saders and actually try to go out and put pressure on them with attacking play then the bulls has a good as chance as any but just like the stormers they tend to hit the play offs and change the way they play. that being said the bulls in general has natural BMT so i hope for the bulls fans they can pull it through

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
20 Jul 2012, 15:45
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20 Jul 2012, 15:45#9

The bulle dont have a great pack. If their pack were better they do have a dangerous backline and would have been a very formidable team.

Carpetmucher you cant seriously be thinking the Stormers will play differently - why - what do you think they will change in a knock out game?

I see its 310 for 6

EK
EkPro1,464 posts
20 Jul 2012, 15:48
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20 Jul 2012, 15:48#10

 There is no way that the Stormers will change anything at this stage. They will revise after the season but not now.

313/7

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
20 Jul 2012, 16:01
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20 Jul 2012, 16:01#11

Agree Ek - you could say our style is cast in stone!

I hope you are going to be available to explain cricket to the rugga buggas. Guys like Moz, who resides in the states these days will need a refresher course. I wonder if that ozzie  Redsman knows the game?

EK
EkPro1,464 posts
20 Jul 2012, 16:04
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20 Jul 2012, 16:04#12

 Unfortunately i am only available on Weekdays. It is a work afterall :)

326/7

HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
20 Jul 2012, 17:25
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20 Jul 2012, 17:25#13

 

don't worry boys, we'll only beat the Bulls by a small margin - Redsman, don't panic, I've told the Sharks to lose to you so that you can come to NZ and hand it over to the Chiefs! It will also be a chance for your hero Cooper to play - we might have to check his laptop though at the airport to make sure it really belongs to him!

Heck, I've even told Dr Richie to take time during the game while the game is in progress to explain the finer points to the ref if he needs help - he is so fast, he would have explained things to the ref and got back to play in the blink of an eye - there, it just happened and you missed it!

we'll also be handing out special gloves to the Bulls players to ensure they don't hurt their eyes too much when they self gouge! We're also still torn on whether to test the whole team for steroids abuse or not - I mean one or two or three rotten apples shouldn't be a reason to test the whole team!

CA
carpetmuncherPro1,667 posts
20 Jul 2012, 17:38
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20 Jul 2012, 17:38#14

@ beeno and EK jip your teams style is very much set in stone and that might come undone if the stormers have to chase a game. next couple of weeks will reveal all if the stormers style will bring a major cup for the first time in 12 odd years. in terms of the bulls game lets hope they pitch and play some rugby. we know the sharks will run it so lets hope they are sharp and execute well both on defence and attack. there playing pattern is pretty much perfect there only problem is if they can maintain it over 80 min. the reds are a great team so is the wonderfull cheats namely the crusaders.

game on for the weekend gentleman. hope you all have a great weekend @redsman hope we have see a great game may the best team win

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Jul 2012, 20:48
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20 Jul 2012, 20:48#15

 

Let me give an easy answer to all of you - half th Bulls team cannot read - they are too dumb.  Those who can only read Afrikaans.    This would mean that all the press efforts will conme to nought - it will have no impact on the Bulls team.   They will lose anyway - so why the crap.

Why would they aolways come up with Muck - like the famous Suzir saga years ago.  They must suffer from persecution mania.   There was a complaint lodge by the Bulls for eye-going.   One of tyhe players had blood all around his eye - but it could not be conclusively seen on the video replays.   That does not make them innocent - the problem was that viseo evidence of the incident could not be substantiated and without that the guilty party could not be identified and dealt with.

I doubt not that the incident did occur - and the dirty Crusaders got away with it.   Nobody would lie about such an incident - especially with blood aound the eye in eviddence.   I say the Crusaders got away with that one and despite that type of incident LOST the game.   There is no dount about the fact that they are dirty players - so lets leave it at that.

I wish something massive happens and despite logic the Bulls win the game.   Then you would here the muck in the press.  

The Crusaders are a bad lot of lousy buggers and they name their team correctly.   The Crusades were a bloody mess killing thousands of innocent people - that is why the end result was not successful.   Only historic idiots will name a team after that uugly episode in history of the world.

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MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
20 Jul 2012, 22:28
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20 Jul 2012, 22:28#16

i would be interested to see this so called article that redman said was the NZ medias scathing attack on bulls and the eye gouging incident, cos every article ive read has had nothing to do with attacking the bulls, but reiterating what has already been reported.
ive noticed that redman is always quick to use these forums to garner support for his obvious hatred of NZ rugby and to his credit thats very smart, as its something very easy to do on a saffa site where antiNZ sentiments are always ripe for the picking. but whe u look at the facts and the lack of questioning here from some of the intellects, i am disappointed but not surprised that its going to take kiwis to defend NZ and point out what IMO should be obvious.

redmans title of his post is "hostile kiwi media attacking bulls", he then proceeds to give his opinion and say that the bulls must have some credibility, otherwise why they would say it??? he then says and i quote,,,"Typically the 'cheating bleating' crusaders have used this as ammunition for a hostile media attack on the bulls - stating their innocence and saying the allegations were false - furthermore fueling the hostility against the visiting team."
first of all, the crusaders stating their innocence and saying the allegations were false is redmans definition of a hostile attack??? i dont what really went on and the reality is, neither does anyone here, so its all speculation and opinion no matter which angle u look at it, but my two cents is, if it was foul play, then why have their been no other reported incidents like is, espcially when no other team in super rugby history has played more super rugby games then the crusaders???
and secondly, can anyone tell me how long the crusaders have controlled the media??? cos the last time i checked, the main newspaper companies in wellington, auckland and christchurch, were all owned by fairfax an AUSTRALIAN company.

here is what was really reported in most media outlets this week in NZ between the bulls and crusaders in regards to the eye gouging incident,,,,
"That controversy could have added fuel to the fire when the Crusaders and the Bulls square off in the elimination match in Christchurch this Saturday night, although Blackadder doused lingering flames this week by saying he and Bulls coach Frans Ludeke had smoked the peace pipe.

“I had a really good talk with Frans Ludeke about a month later. We’ve had a really good relationship with the Bulls for a long time, well before my time. They’ve been here to Rugby Park (Crusaders training venue) and experienced the culture and we’ve been over there and been welcomed,” Blackadder says.

“Certainly both parties weren’t happy with it (eye-gouging claims), but we had a good chat on the phone and have put it behind us and we have moved forward. We’ve been friends for a long time and that was one incident that didn’t need to happen.”


i do love how he thinks that a disgraceful bunch of small minded morons that run this country's media are frankly beyond all sportsmanshipm when again australia is part of those he just listed.


its very obvious to me that redmans bitterness and his eagerness to build an online posse to fuel as much hatred towards NZ rugby as possible is more then extremely rabid, afterall, he would get just as much pleasure watching another team lose, then seeing his own team win, IMO any true fan of any sport knows that watching their team win trumps everything else.



GO CRUSADERS, GO CHIEFS & GO THE MIGHTY MIGHTY ALL BLACKS!!!

BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
20 Jul 2012, 23:32
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20 Jul 2012, 23:32#17

Good story red but mostly poms and yarpies stirring shyte like pommie journalist mark reason and saffa man in the stand so unless you're up with the play like Brycy you 'll probabaly believe everything that you read

RE
redsmanPro1,710 posts
21 Jul 2012, 05:45
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21 Jul 2012, 05:45#18

1. Hatred of NZ rugby is way too broader statement - I dislike the way that NZ rugby is never called for its on and off field indiscretions - particularly farcical referees from that part of the world - Vinne / Bryce topping the list.

2. I actually happy to state that some of the NZ rugby this season was the most entertaining rugby of the competition - its great they are the world leaders in running / flowing rugby. Utmost respect for this type of play.

3. Negativity stems from being able to see that NZ particularly the crusaders consistently get preferential treatment from referees.

4. Report re eye gouging was on sky news sportsline @ start of the week - but it reminds so much so of the NZ 'crusade' to victimise Quade cooper last year @ the RWC due to him being perceived as a threat.... 

5. Yep - doesnt take too much to up the ante on a SA website be spreading claims against their team - which no doubt are still founded in truth...

6. @Clever Mike - I didnt realise bulls players lacked intellect so as wouldnt be effected - thats a good thing.

7. Go the REds!!!!!

8. @Hawka - classic...

9. unfortunately big Kev not there this year

 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Jul 2012, 07:27
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21 Jul 2012, 07:27#19

Redsman

Maybe I was a bit harsh on the Bulls players - but the following story was doing the rounds a while ago in SA:-

Famous Professor :   My friend, what is your IQ?

Answer                  :    216

Professor                   Brilliant - then we can discuss Higher Levels of Science with you

Professor                   My friend - what is your IQ?

Answer                      160  

Professor                  Welcome - we can now discuss your field of science with you.

Professor                  My friend - what is your IQ

Answer                     60

Professor                 Sorry - but I cannot discuss issues with you - go and join the Blue Bulls Supporters Club.

Harsh on the players - but are there any rocket scientists amongst them - not amongst the loosies I am sure.:)

By the way - the Sharks Prop Jannie Du Plessis is a qualified medical doctor - but he makes more money out of playing rugby and farming together with his brother Bismarck.   So at least there is one bright guy amongst the SA players. 

 

 

BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
21 Jul 2012, 07:47
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21 Jul 2012, 07:47#20

  RE Quade Cooper . He's is seen as a turncoat and percieved as a renegade Kiwi that switched alliegences which is why he recieves so much attention. Simple really. Traitors and deserters should be shot at dawn is the general consensus but Brycy accepts that QC was rejected by his country of births national team and good on him for cementing himself in the aussie team. But for others he will always be a kiwi that is betraying his country of birth by playing for the aussies... 

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Jul 2012, 11:42
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21 Jul 2012, 11:42#21

Lol Mike good one.

To summarise. Kiwis if you dont like the spotlight and heat on your cheating the simple remedy is to stop cheating! Obvious really. You have been cheats for decades now (From inception?). Isnt it time for a change? Arent you getting weary of the heavy burden of shame you carry?

Beeno helping the Kiwis out by providing an infallible solution. Only question is will they adopt it or will they continue blackening their foul reputation.  Hahahahahahaha one has to be thankful one is not a kiwi!

Our Kiwis a re are good guys but misguided. They need straightening out. Fate has smiled on them and they find themselves at a place were the crooked paths can be made straight.

Carpet muncher no more about major titles we have two SA Conference titles representing us being the best side in SA for wo years. Dont insult our rugby by saying that is not major.

 

BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
21 Jul 2012, 21:10
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21 Jul 2012, 21:10#22

Bean Brain still off on a tangent. Kiwis doing that little bean in your brain in by the sound of it. The Cheetahs are a yarpie team my cerebrally challenged friend but spelling was never your strong point. Stormers getting their arse kicked by the Sharks is gunna play havoc with someone in such a fragile mental condition as you but maybe you could increase your meds or something..

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