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How do I read the game on Saturday in the final of Super Rugby

Started by clevermike5 REPLIES479 VIEWS· 31 Jul 2016, 12:00
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
31 Jul 2016, 12:00
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31 Jul 2016, 12:00#1

There are a number of issues to be dealt with here, but in the main one has to deal with a few issues first:-

The playing conditions  

This can be problematic for both sides if they want to play a comprehensive flowing game.  Ball handling can be problematic for both sides.   If the conditions are wet and the ball slippery a tighter game could be expected.  That will benefit the Lions with their stronger set pieces. 

Injured players

Both sides  had their regular captains off on Saturday   Coles  is a good leader with strong shows in the looser format of the game – but with a questionable contribution to set pieces.   Whiteley is tops as an 8 and also a very inspirational leader  

It is likely that both players will take the field on Saturday – and their respective will benefit from their presence in the game.

Player valuation per position

Full Back

Here the likely selections would be Marshall and Coetzee.   Marshall is very dangerous in attacking play – Coetzee less so.   I would rate them 50:50 otherwise.   Hurricanes a 60:40 advantage.

Wings

The two combinations are likely to be Jane, Savea  and Woodward (Hurricanes) and Combrinck and Skosan (Lions).  All three Huricanes players are strong ball carriers and ball handlers – but rather slower than is expected normally from wings.    50:50 situation.

Centers

Likely selection will be proctor and Halaholo (Hurricanes)  and Janse van Rensburg, Mapoe and Mnisi (Lions).    Here the Lions as a 60:40 advantage over the Hurricanes

Halfbacks  

This is where a key role will be played by the players concerned.   Based on recent performances  I would give the Hurricanes a 55:45 advantage here – but it also depends o the quality of balls  they receive from their forwards.

Loosies

In  the case of the Hurricanes Savea is a star – but the other two loosies are very average.  I would say the combination of Whiteley, Tecklenberg and Kriel is a bettr combination and give the Lions a 60:40 advantage in this case.

Locks

Here I think the Lions has a 55:45 advantage over their opponents.

Props

The  Hurricanes scrumming is sub-standard and they are going to suffer badly in that component of the game.  The Lions has a 70:30 advantage here

Hookers

Both Coles and Marx are top class players with different attributes.   From a ball play situation in open play I give Coles top marks – from  tight 5 perspective Marx is far superior.   I would say depending on the onditions and the game plan implementation I would give the two players a 50:50 rating.

Summary   

The situation is very even and  may go either way.   My own assessment is that the Lions is goig to beat the Hurricanes by 9 points and that is going to be a very debatable issue.  As was stated elsewhere I think the question would be – who wants the trophy most.

BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
31 Jul 2016, 13:06
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31 Jul 2016, 13:06#2

 ...not so clevermike, all the betting agencies have the Hurricanes as heavy favourites...


The Lions have had a great year though , played some great attacking rugby ...but no team has ever crossed the Indian Ocean and taken out a final....

... enjoy this weekend's win, savor the moment... and try not to be too hard on the Lions when they fall at the last hurdle....they have been great and done South Africa proud but looks like this next match might be a bridge too far for them...it will take a superhuman effort to overcome such overwhelming odds...


...btw the Rugby Championship fantasy competition is starting on Superbru if you want to start a league for the forum...

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
31 Jul 2016, 14:21
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31 Jul 2016, 14:21#3
Brycy, a very fair & considerate post
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
31 Jul 2016, 14:27
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31 Jul 2016, 14:27#4
 I have started pools for the three competitions on Superbru.  We will see on Saturday what happens.   I see the Hurricanes are 4-10 and the Lions 2/1 - must take a small bet on the Lions.   
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
31 Jul 2016, 14:27
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31 Jul 2016, 14:27#5
 I have started pools for the three competitions on Superbru.  We will see on Saturday what happens.   I see the Hurricanes are 4-10 and the Lions 2/1 - must take a small bet on the Lions.   
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
01 Aug 2016, 10:16
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01 Aug 2016, 10:16#6
 Nice read, Mike. I enjoyed that.
I too think we have what it takes to bring the trophy home ... come rain or shine.  

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