How useless are Libbok and Gelant

Both were just awful against Glascow

Mozart\

I agree with you about those 2 - the only flyhslf tthat impresed me w as Wolhuter of the Lions .  . 

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Gelant and Libbok are like Elton Jantjies, but worse. Once or twice a game they pull off an exotic pass. But they lose the ball much more often trying that….Gelant in particular turned over the ball multiple times today. 

Libbok threw one long pass…for the rest it was a train wreck of missed tackles and failure to commit.

So having 3 players on the field like Gelant, Libbok and Willemse backfired. One should be on the bench. Willemse is not a 12, he should play 15. 

Gelant form has dropped massively. There is a reason why he only lasted one season in France. 

Libbok is a box of chocolate. None of these players are consistent players. All confidence players. Willemse had an awful game and then he has a man of the match performance. 

Looking at te flyhalfs in the URC matches yesterday and today the only one whio really impressed me was  Wolhutor - bearing in mind the Lions played Leinster - most of the Leonster team makes up most of the Ireland test team.  

Stav

Throwing balls away to nobody like Gelant did twce yesterday is no real class/ So I accept my eyes saw BS as well.     

Joel Stransky said that Dobbo can't expect to win when he keeps playing players out of position. 

He tried to have his "best" players on the field. Manie hasn't played for 6 weeks. Willemse had a MoM performance the week before at 10. Then Dobbo shifted Willemse to 12, Du Preez to 13, which is not his best position and Nel to wing. 

When he should have just put Manie on the bench at keep Willemse at 10, but instead Willemse got injured. Libbok got steam rolled and Gelant was playing his own dumb game that nobody got the script 

He was brilliant ball in hand…give us some time stamps of this brilliance. He threw one obvious, but well executed long pass….guide us to the other brilliance.

Dave you advocate an odd  mix of physical forwards and flimsy backs. Except at 12 where apparently modern rugby requires a gorilla.

Dave

Unfortunately I never supported Jamtjies at flyhalf - and although prerhaps not as flimsy as Jantjises was at flyhalf  Libbok is not better than Jantjies was.   I think that we need an inniovative flyhalf to back up Sacha - bur unfortuntely from what I saw at lest level I do not see Libbok fits that need,   His kicking at goal under presure is just not up to the even the Jantjies standard - but that to my mind is  a major negative in Libbok's case as well.  .