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How will the wobblies and wee abs fare against the Argies at home?

Started by Beeno112 REPLIES326 VIEWS· 22 Sept 2013, 15:42
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
22 Sept 2013, 15:42
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22 Sept 2013, 15:42#1

We saw how Oz managed to win by a single point at home and how the wee abs struggled at home against the Puma forwards.

It is clear too that the Argies play much better at home than away. It appears quite possible that either of these sides could lose against the Argies should the Pumas lift their game to the hights they did agaisnt the Mighty Boks.

Some advice to Thomas and the men, dont bite weemcaaaw  or you could die of rabies! But get in the faces of the wee abs for 80 minutes and get your first win. 

Ole Argies!

DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
22 Sept 2013, 15:56
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22 Sept 2013, 15:56#2

Interesting, I can see the AB's winning by a healthy margin but I just can't see the Wallabies turning it around.

HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
22 Sept 2013, 16:21
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22 Sept 2013, 16:21#3

Beens, the ABs are playing the Pumas on a converted soccer field that is both narrow and short! They will be nowhere to run or hide for both Teams! Sounds like a green beret training pit where the last man standing is the winner!

As for the Boks vs Wobblies - Number 2 vs Number 3 (desperate to retain number 2 position again), I expect and hope to see fireworks! Looking forward to this particular Test! The Wobblies quietly hoping to exact revenge and the Boks eager to keep them at Number 3!

WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
22 Sept 2013, 16:29
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22 Sept 2013, 16:29#4

 Wobbles to win ,ABS to win by heaps ! Hey cloudy ! I hear Saffa TVs come with tissue dispensers and toughened glass screens !

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Sept 2013, 18:50
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22 Sept 2013, 18:50#5
Beeno Sorry to disappoint you - but the same will happen as happened last year. Likely a bonus point win by both teams. Abs beat them last year by 55-15 and the Wallabies by 25-19. The AB's can be assured of a bonus point victory and will win the Cup in Argentina already - since they are sure to also beat SA in Johannesburg in any event. Meyer will never learn from his horrible selection misakes - I am afraid.
MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
22 Sept 2013, 20:51
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22 Sept 2013, 20:51#6

wallabies
vs los pumas
pumas did very well in OZ and NZ, but the wet weather was their best ally as that helped take the spark out of both teams potent backline.

now that both ANZAC teams are in argentina and SA, the ground gives the bledisloe nations a good edge and im picking the wallabies to beat the pumas.

puma forwards will make the wallabies work for it though, but the class in the backline should be too much in the end, even without bieber.

vs Boks
not an easy one by a long shot, Boks confidence against the wallabies will be at an all time high after breaking their suncorp hoodoo and the wallabies conifdence will be at an all time low, especially up front.

conditions should be good for the wallabies exapnsive plan, but if the Boks fire power upfront isnt addressed properly by the wallabies, then it aint going to mean jack cos the wallabies backline will see bugger all of the ball.

a lot of wallaby players need to step up, genia, horwill, moore, mowen AAC really need to get to take charge, not enough talking amongst them sleves and keeping the teams morale high.

dont know who mackenzie will go with, but matt toomua should start at 10, hes baptism by All Blacks fire will make him stronger for what will be a physically demanding match.
cooper has just been too average, so play him of the bench IMO.

All Blacks
vs los pumas

All Blacks to win by 40.

vs the Boks
All Blacks to win by 30

nuff said, :oP

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
22 Sept 2013, 22:15
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22 Sept 2013, 22:15#7

 Whahahahaha by 30 points opines my friend saSUE  !!!

saSUE has clealry lost it! Too much stress and coping with Bissie's superb tackle on we Dan.!! Sympathetic concussion methinks. 

Look the simple facts are these - the Boks should win by 20. Fourie Du Preez will help sink the hapless abs- watch the master in action. Bissie will be back to terrorise the wee ab backs etc etc. 

Ou maaaikie of course is believing his own hype. He has been wrong every time so the odds should be favouring him getting it right sometime but I fear not to soon. Nevertheless ou maaaike is giving his kneejerk Bok s will get clobbered story. Mike just copy and paste your prematch comments from all the games the Boks haver played this year. 

Could someone dispense some tissues to abnob who collapsed in a heap when the going got tough.!

Hey abnob isnt it tiem to make a comeback you are letting down the kiwi team. Even Cloudy has stood her ground!

I think abnob needs a mean boil to get him right again. Nurse him back to health stuff.

We all miss abnob! Sob!

 

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
22 Sept 2013, 23:13
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22 Sept 2013, 23:13#8

Just so you  know, I won't be able to keep track of the predictions for this weekends games as I am travelling for the next 10 days. Someone else want to do it?

WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
23 Sept 2013, 02:34
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23 Sept 2013, 02:34#9

 Bro you remind me of that old 'Travelin" man " song of Ricky Nelsons ! [ bugger I makes me sound so old !} I was gonna say "King of the road " but these rude lyrics this geezer I worked with came to mind ..." Sailor to trail for rent .....! "  speaking of Sailors Wendell sailor has a warts and all Bio out ,in the interview on radio it sounded pretty good.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Sept 2013, 02:47
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23 Sept 2013, 02:47#10
Just_win Good luck with your travelling. Just remember to update your fantasy selections before departure.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Sept 2013, 09:48
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23 Sept 2013, 09:48#11
Be4eno Sorry to disappoint you - but I did predict on Superbru a win by the Springboks against the Wallabies in Brisbane. Where I was entirely wrong was at Eden Park - where I gave the Springboks a small chance to win. Unfortunately I do not give the Springboks a winning chance in Johannesburg - and the reasons for that are clear. The defeat forecast is based on what happened last year in Soweto and the reasons are clear - Meyer by his loony squad selections are assuring that loss. In other words a loss is the only possibility because of self-inflicting wounds through bad selections. I do not base my opinion on emotion - I based it on proven facts. Facts indicate the same as last year in Soweto. There are some minor changes to the side and those changes are not necessarily for the better:- * Morne Steyn came in as flyhalf - he failed whenever he is put under pressure - like at Eden Park and in the Super 15 semi-final. * Du Preez is coming in ahead of Pienaar. Is that an improvement? He did well against the Argentinians - when he came on when the match was already won. Will he produce the goods against the All Blacks? We will have to wait and see. Du Preez has often enough in the past played poor games - so what will happen next week? * Engelbrecht in place of Taute - no real improvement - though Saffex will swear otherwise. * Bekker being replaced by Flippie or Kruger - a real comedown in evidence. And then we have the useless Jannie - who have been going downhill during the past year - and the worst selection imaginable - the clueless Steenkamp who fails in scrumming every game he plays in - as well as Alberts - the quasi-prop that masquerade as a loosie. With that lot we can only lose and lose badly. I hate to say it - bit Meyer is letting us down badly with his selections. If his selections were eperformance based we have a chance - but it is not - so we will have no chance next week. You are in Cape Town - how is the weather? Poor weather conditions are a great leveller in rugby - so we may struggle even against the Wallabies - especially since the poor ball handlers will even be more clumsy than they usually are.. I predict a Springbok win -- but even there think that the match would not result in a really convincing victory without a bonus point - cutting us out of the cup competition before the Johannesburg test. I hate it - but Meyer is to blame for his non-performance based selections - end of story.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 Sept 2013, 11:37
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23 Sept 2013, 11:37#12

 Mike I diagnose your problem as believing what you say! You are overstating your case.

How did Morne fail at Eden Park? Jannie was solid and Steenkamp held his own. Du Preez looks back to his brilliant best - best in the world when on form. This could lift the whole Bok backline as he gives them a couple of extra seconds.

Alberts is playing better and better and is exactly the type of forward to have on at a wet Newlands. If its wet and Meyer picks the right pack the wobblies have nowhere to go.

My only concern is Meyer needed Deon Fourie to speed up the loose trio. Kolisi is not up to it yet. Meyer needs to tweak his pack slightly in my opinion when playing at the highveld. Fourie, Vermuelen and Louw in my book. 

 

 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Sept 2013, 17:16
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23 Sept 2013, 17:16#13
Beeno Seriously now - do you not bel;ieve that history repeats itself ince we refuse to change our mistakes - we wonder why the result are against us. Meyer picked virtually the same team and expect different results. Morne's so-called strategic and relieve kicking was wildly erratic. In most cases it was only a way aa way to ahdn over possession to the All Blacks. He stood too deep in the pocket and even when he passed balls the defenders was there to tackle the recipient - they (the defenders) completely ignore him since he is no attacking threat and go for the recipients. That kills the backline and nullifies all attacks. The cherry on the top was the penalty kick which he failed to get over the sideline. Does that tell you why he failed at Eden Park or do you want to have it in more detail? Steenkamp and Janni9e being solid is a joke in bad taste. Do you realize that Jannie gave away two scrum penalties and Steenkamp 1. And their defence was hopeless to say the least. Bad eggs - those 2. I am sorry - but I think Fouries is bad in defence and is furthermore a penalty machine. He has good elements - but he cannot protect the ball carrier and ensure that the ball carrier places back the ball for collection without interference from opposing g players. Speed is not everything - there are other qualities required form a loosie as well. Now - with that squad and player combinations there is no way that the Springboks can beat the All Blacks. However, that is my opinion and we will see at the Ellis Park test who is correct in this case.
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