I feel symphathy for the moderator on this site.

Yes indeed he puts with so much but he is kind enough to tolerate it...guys lets just easeup and show decency and respect...curb the foul language....I know I've let slip.

Incidentally foul talk chases away good commentators....ie what's happened to my sweetheart rugbygal...you morons have chased her away? Probably because she fell in love with Kanko???

And all of you because you look like Quasimodo,are jealous because you are ugly and could never play rugby like him.

 Thanks Sebatianchabal appreciate the sentiment. I would like to add that the other thing bothering me is the constant retort that someone else with a different idea is all of a sudden an idiot. It really is frustrating and plain and simply awefull manners. But that is just me.

 Hougaard is our best 9 FACT Meyer is an idiot for not seeing this

I was waiting for you to pitch up, Ek!!

To think that this site used to be a dead site ... with a hand full of posters ... posting once a month ... compared to all the traffic you see now.

Must be quite a shock for you and rugbygal, to see how this site has been given life, huh??

Knowing you, you'd probably want to take it back to those days, huh? To when you guys were holding handies, telling each other just how much you admired each other ... right???

To use foul language is one thing but to throw one's toys out over words like idiot or moron or  retard is absurd.

There is a whole lot more rugby been discussed on this site than there ever was. We even have an assortment of international posters here ... yes I know they're retarded ozzies and sheep shagging kiwis ... but still they bring the site a little character. .

I doubt they would want to stay if all we ever post is topics of how wonderful we all think we are.

So here goes, Ek!!!

Shut the hell up, you friggin retarded ass!!!

Take you handy holding ideas elsewhere ... ok??

No idea!!!

Don't care either!!!

Ek given I act a a role model here its all a bit puzzling. However a little edge is a great thing and adds to the spice.

Sorry about rugby gal but I think she was not getting enough attention soshe buzzed off?

EK never get upset by the uncouth. Generally its not too bad here if you look at other rugby websites. Ou rooitwit is about as far down as we go but that's also an IQ problem! Bwahhahahahahahaha

You get sensible folk and not so sensible - nothing can change that. Some folk like to banter and some not - lets all be sensitive to that.  What chances!!!!!!!

 Cleancut -- the way you treat other peopl says alot about you as a person. If you are willing to insult other peoplet to make your own point valid then so be it. I do want to refer you to a a psychologist in that case. As if that is the way you go through life you really won't amount to anything. Your value system caries you as a human biang, and that remark you just made says alot about yours. 

Just a thought, use it, don't use it.

Save the lecture for your church group, Ek!! 

I'm really not interested.

Holy today ... drunk and abusive tomorrow!!!

No more than a hypocrite!!

CC who made you the judge.  Pointing figures is easy but look in a mirror - if ya dare!!! 

Hats of the the Mod I have to say. Minimum interefence but has stepped in when in a couple of cases where  it was gutter stuff on a continuous basis. Shown excellent judgement.

Tin pot gods Moz- yes I know what you mean.

we understand ou rooitwit and his foibles as we have posted with him for years. Boklogic doesnt and still take him seriously which ou rooitwit just loves! 

There's a moderator on this site? You're joking, right?

Mozzie said and Mozzie is not stupid...I respect his challenge:

My own rules are....an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth ( yes mine are still in situ).....no insulting of posters' religion or political beliefs....no posting about family.....a friendly hand to new posters.

Mozzie dear friend...this is a rugby forum but rugby is NOT more important than the life of a mans soul.

Because I actually love and feel for you guys (no I'm a heterosexual guy that's normal that likes and loves women only in the right way and likes guys as my chommies).

This forum, site is about rugby, the feel about it and the statistic tics...it attracts all types ...that’s good but the spirit and soul of the team and individuals (except for basics) is never discussed or understood. Maybe it's a bit heavy for some...coaches face huge problems...big heavy guys with very little education, and guys that are not so heavy with skills, other heavies have that education but are not creative.

How do you coach these guys...it takes great skill and mentored time and real dedicated mentors to do this.

Huh? What are you smoking, sebastienchabal? Can I have some?

Cannuck...sorry about the philosophies of life...apologies...keep cutting big trees down but if you are a foreigner in Iceland as your pics show go back to Africa and behave.

Patrick Riordan your last captain ...a flippin' carpenter is somewhere in my family tree...did not too well in the world cup?? Keep cutting trees down mate...

LOL

No rooinek I am not the moderator of this board. Just been here for ages. :)

Oh, well then your first response on this thread could be construed as being a tad presumptious. You're thanking SubstantialBull as if you were the one he was expressing sympathy for.

Beeno - please tell me how to point a figure?? Never done that before. Hope it's not painful!! I would suggest you learn to speak the language properly before you try to get your opinion across. It may help ... ok??

Elder Ntanga - you don't like my finger, huh?? noted. Who says I'm not an elderly?

Sebastiens "left" ball - still passing your foolish philosophies on saving souls and shit ... what a load of trash!!! Unlike you, I've never had the urge to stick my finger up my bum!! Good luck with that!!

Appologies Rooinek if you saw it that way, Did not mean for it to come over as presumptious. I was thanking him for raising the topic. Some people might find such behaviour accpetable. I don't. Not in any social interaction.

There is a saying in afrikaans. "Wat die hart van vol is loop die mond van oor."

If you are happy that in a social interaction(which this is by the way) It is okay to go around insulting people and using fould language, your bel;ievability in such an environment goes out the door. 

Some people don't seem to understand that concept, or have not grown to the point where they can see it.

"Some people don't seem to understand that concept, or have not grown to the point where they can see it."

Ek, how is your above statement any less insulting than the more common "you're an idiot" kind of insult?

Your insult is more veiled and vague and you're not naming specific names but telling someone they haven't grown up to the point where they can see something is not significantly different from telling someone they're an idiot. They're both demeaning, perhaps to different degrees.

I'm not trying to pick a fight with you, Ek, but we all insult others at times and all this hand-wringing about who's insulting who is getting a bit precious now. People should get over themselves. This is a rugby message board for goodness sake! Of course you're going to get insulted and if that upsets you then you should go find a very strictly moderated hand-holding message board . . . because on this (and any other normal message board), if you're going to bleat when someone insults you, you're just going to get insulted more often.

Just look at SmallCock's tantrums as an example. The only reason he gets provoked into saying all that stupid macho and foul-mouthed bile that he comes up with is because he's so easy to provoke . . . and everyone else knows it. By the same token, the crybabies who always have a whine when they're insulted are more likely to be insulted.

I do agree with you on the foul language though. I've always believed that foul language is the result of a weak vocabulary. Why call someone a c*nt when you can call him a cretinous recidivist troglodyte?

"A cretinous recidivist troglodyte"? So tell us then rooitwit who first called you - that I want to congratulate that man as having summed it all up so nealty and concisely!

 Rooinek.

Firstly, calling someone out on evidence is a totally different thing than going around calling people insulting names just because you dont have the ability to stick to an adult conversation or are incapable of having such conversation without the use of crude language.

I am just stating evidence. I also don't have that large of an ego that I am unwilling to appologise to anyone if I have insulted them, it happens we are human. 

But to answer your question, there is a HUGE difference. The one is socially accpetable the other is not. I am not insulting in that context. I am providing facts.

Just an addition:

Maybe if i painted a picture my point would get across better:

Scenario 1:

We all sit in a boardroom waitning for a meeting. Beeno (Beeno, just using you as an example not intentionally aimed at you) walks in. Here knocks off a few crude words. we sit down the meeting starts. every idea that he doesn't agree with he shouts down and calls the innitiator an idiot. How many people are actually going to listen to him the day he comes up with a great idea?

Scenario 2:

We sit in the boardroom. Beeno walks in, he greets everybody in a freindly fashion. the meeting goes on. He disagrees on some points clerly states why others don't agree with him. He has made his point though. Next time he comes up with a great Idea. How many people will actually listen to him.

The point of the little scenario is that behaviour creates credibility. Some of the behaviour I have seen (and this is not just restricted to here) creates a rather bleak outlook on firstly the credibility of said person as well as his/her social social interaction.

From there the outlook. In the hope that it creates personal growth.

Okay, I think I get it now. So in future if I think you're being an idiot, I won't say "Ek, you're an idiot", I'll say "Ek, you haven't grown to the point where you can see you're being an idiot".

Is it still okay to call Baboon-ou an idiot? I mean, that's just providing facts, not so?

 Rooinek If i was an idiot and you can support it with evidence. feel free. Dont just blurt it out and call me names just cause you can't think of somehting better. that is insulting.

If you saw behavior in me that you don't like or goes against you rvalues. call me out, but the evidence will be there for anyone to see. That is not insulting, that is proving a point.

HUGE difference. Hope you get it now.

Oh please ... !!!

Horse shit, Ek!! Horse shit!!!

You are now, once again, talking horse shit!!!

That is a fact ... so hopefully you'll take your self righteous little self and accept that I have not insulted you now but pointed out factually that you are talking nonsense.

Does that make you feel better now??

Huh??

What is evident on this thread is that you'd like to believe that it's possible for rugby fans supporting different provinces and different national teams to politely disagree with one another without ever resorting to personal insults.

I'm saying that I don't think your ideal is possible without very strict moderating (which would probably drive everyone off anyway) and if you honestly believe otherwise then you're probably . . . . ummmmm . . . an idiot.

I'd also add that I don't think I'd bother with a message board that was one big polite and hand-holding circle-jerk and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Half the attraction of message boards like this is watching flame wars and seeing people unravel. It's like some of the reality TV that people find so entertaining . . . you don't have to be a moron to enjoy watching people behaving like morons, do you?

You hve not insulted me here CC. However your manner does not go down well, Starting with that crude avatar. It says alot about you, and nothing positive. You have disagreed. very rudely but you have. so no I don't feel insulted. There is nothing self rightious about it. 

And no it's not bullshit, you clearly have not sat in enough meetings.

Clean up your act boet. It will help you in future, as well as in your career.

And that is not an insult. It's advice.

Rooinek: "I'm saying that I don't think your ideal is possible without very strict moderating (which would probably drive everyone off anyway) and if you honestly believe otherwise then you're probably . . . . ummmmm . . . an idiot."

Agreed. 

I don't expect people to be polite all of a sudden. But that does not stop me from stating my point. Weither you agree with me or not. You do understand where i come from.

And there are certain behaviours that don't go well with certain people. It has nothing to do with bieng high and mighty. everything to do with how likely you will be believed next time you have a good argument. 

 Ek your wasting your time with this Jalepino/Rooniek waster.

His whole goal is to turn this forum into some type Jerry Springer/Jeremy Kyle Reality Fantasy that he has. 

His attraction of message boards is to be a moron on a reality TV show- like he states.

He is probably a member of lots of sport and other type of forums sitting, and in some dead end job with an internet connection and this is how he gives his life purpose. Most people see him here for the idiot that he is, and zero contribution to this board or life in general.

He is a 50 year old man that has created childish names for everyone on this board. It is best just to ignore him and he will eventually get lost and find another forum of people to annoy,

As for Cleancut he is either Jalepino with a different alias, or some other tosser.

 Here is my shortsightedness Sharkbok. Apologies for harping on the issue and trying to ram something home.

"He is a 50 year old man that has created childish names for everyone on this board."

Everyone? Oh, so tell me, Sharktwat, what's the childish name I've given to Clean Cut, Blubok and Ek? Hmmm? What's the childish name I use for Canrugby, Saffex and Oimatey? Huh, chump?

Come on . . . you did say "everyone", didn't you? Go on then answer the question. Don't be a coward.

I just think rooitiwt is badly misunderstood and its his own fault.

EK you and sharkbok are seriously minded by nature. Ou rooitwit is  hatter and CC the same. You are asking the impossible - them to behave sensibly. Not possible. Too bent etc.
 

Relax and enjoy the fun and never take it personally. 

Why hell Ek ... it's starting to sound as if you don't really like me??

Wanting to "drive something home" huh??  Clearly you're under the impression that I'm an easy conversion. You'll step up to the plate and feed me your bullshit and hey presto ... I'm a new creation!!!

Not really a fan of swallowing everything dished up.    

I see your avatar depicts some dude crucified? Would that happen to be your inspiration to all this hypocrisy?

Hmmmmm??

Is that what this is all about?? You have an overwhelming urge to show me the error of my ways? What an awful sinner I am and how righteous you are!! Is that it??

What would you do if I told you that your avatar offends me?

Huh??

Would you remove it?

Didn’t you mention earlier that you never get involved in discussions of a political or religious nature, yet how come I’m looking at this crucified dude ... and how come I’m expected to just accept it … while my avatar showing my finger nail is crude and offensive??

Are you a liar, Ek??

Are you a drunk, Ek??

You were motherless last week Friday ... remember??? ... and guess what, “boet” ??? It’s Friday again!!

I guess we'll be reading your drunken slurred posts a little later this afternoon again, huh??

By the fruit of the tree, Ek!!!!

Cut the crap, Mozart!!

Clearly your itching to get involved here ... so by all means, feel free … let's hear it.