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I keep reading Jannie has to go.....

Started by Mozart6 REPLIES289 VIEWS· 17 Sept 2013, 00:15
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
17 Sept 2013, 00:15
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17 Sept 2013, 00:15#1
...and certainly the big man missed some crucial tackles out there. But get real.... tighthead is about scrumming. And even with a man off the park Jannie stood solidly at tighthead. We started to go backwards when Coenie came on....so why is it that swopping Jannie for Coenie is such a good idea?
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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
17 Sept 2013, 00:21
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17 Sept 2013, 00:21#2

 To be fair we were a man down defensively with Bissie being off the pitch for half the match (or thereabouts) and another man down with Ruan's brain fart that lead to Brodie Retallick's try and other defensive mis-haps. Coenie is a Loosehead, much rather see Frans Malherbe there in the future so for the time being Jannie is fine in my books.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
17 Sept 2013, 00:24
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17 Sept 2013, 00:24#3
I agree Malherbe looks like a good successor. Jannie has never been a favourite of mine, and I'd love to see us find a tough nut at tighthead. Trying to create Coenie as a tighthead just seems like a dead end project.
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sharkbokCaptain23,297 posts
17 Sept 2013, 00:47
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17 Sept 2013, 00:47#4

 His tackling is a liability. He seems to be linked to all the soft tries where tackles should have been made. 

 

Malherbe needs to get fit. 

Not sure about Coenie scrummaging. His allround game is the best in South Africa, just not 100% convinced of his scrummaging. Although he seems to be on the pitch as the same time when Beast has allready left the picture.

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
17 Sept 2013, 01:11
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17 Sept 2013, 01:11#5

Jannie like Prince Jean, has been playing regularly since February ............ & its probably a combination of running close to empty & I suspect a niggling injury . Anyway how many tiring props can bring down a swift silky moving flyhalf ? ...................... Bissie & him grow another foot when they put their arms around each other & enter the fray................ Jannie was interviewed before Bismarck got his 50th cap & he had tears in his eyes .Remarkable pair . The good doctor now goes home & treats HIV patients & hopefully a good rest . We still need the brothers, unfinished business .

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
17 Sept 2013, 01:13
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17 Sept 2013, 01:13#6

 Last time I checked Coenie stood as firm as Jannie did on Saturday so not sure where you get that from Moz. Coenie was pinged once for an early push......other than that he stood firm.

 

There has been no issue with Coenie at tighthead at all. The only issue at scrum time, comes when Steenkamp is introduced.

 

Jannie had Bismark and Beast to work with......hardly the same as Coenie who had Strauss and Steenkamp as partners.

 

Jannie has been solid enough, his tackling was piss poor and cost us 2 tries. I'd be more than happy to see Coenie start alongside Bismark and Beast

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Sept 2013, 09:00
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17 Sept 2013, 09:00#7
I was told by Malherbe's father that he would be back this week. He is according to his father physically stronger than he was before his injury. Meyer is likely to ask Coetzee to make sure he gets some [playing time this weekend and I am sure that both he and Du Toit will be called up this weekend to join the squad. The problem in scrumming also is influenced by the lock combination. It is noticeable that when Kruger is around - the scrumming is poorer and as so often said he lacks application insofar as physicality is concerned. I would much rather see that Steenkamp is send back to France - he was piss-poor for the Springboks this year.
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